Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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Michael Kugelman, interviewed for the Washington post, says Indian media is putting out egregious false stories.

Michael Kugelman, a South Asia analyst, noted a “very high volume of particularly egregious fake news” in government-aligned Indian media outlets. (India fell to No. 151 in the World Press Freedom Index by Reporters Without Borders this year, down from 136th place a decade ago. Pakistan is ranked 158th.)
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And Trump’s White House wants to see de-escalation.

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Foinikas said:
I mean I look at this and wonder why these people still have an Air Force

Accidents and incidents​

Since Su-30MKI's entry to service in 2002, the aircraft flew seven years without any major incidents. The first crash occurred in 2009. As of November 2024, 13 Su-30MKIs were lost in crashes including 3 fatalities.


  • On 30 April 2009, an Su-30MKI (SB-021) from the 30 Squadron crashed in Rajasthan. Both the pilots ejected successfully but one of them succumbed to injuries. According to reports. the pilots had inadvertently switched off the aircraft’s flight control system.
  • On 30 November 2009, another aircraft from the 31 Squadron crashed over Pokhran, Rajasthan during a training sortie after an engine caught fire. Both pilots ejected successfully.
  • On 13 December 2011, an aircraft (SB-142) of the 20 Squadron crashed at Wade-Bholai village near Pune, Maharashtra. The crash occurred due to human error after servicing of the aircraft at the Nashik facility of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. The pilots survived.
  • On 19 April 2012, an aircraft crashed during a "Repaired Routing Training Flight".
  • On 19 February 2013, an Su-30MKI crashed in Pokhran region at around 19:20 IST. The crash occurred due to defunctive ordnance onboard the aircraft as the bomb exploded while it was attached on to the underwing pylons. The pilots survived.
  • On 14 October 2014, one Su-30MKI crashed in Pune
  • On 19 May 2015, one Su-30MKI crashed in Tezpur, Assam.
  • On 15 March 2017, an Su-30MKI crashed in the Barmer district of Rajasthan during a training sortie. The pilots ejected safely but three family members were injured as the jet crashed over a residential area. This was the seventh crash of the aircraft.
  • On 23 May 2017, two pilots died during after a crash of Su-30MKI (SB-063) from 2 Squadron. The aircraft took off from Tezpur AFS as a part of two aircraft formation. The aircraft later lost radar, radio and air traffic control contact at 11.10 IST. The aircraft was last detected 60 km (37 mi) northwest of Tezpur.
  • On 27 June 2018, a Su-30MKI crashed in Nashik, Maharashtra.
  • On 8 August 2019, a Su-30MKI crashed in a paddy field near Tezpur in Assam.
  • On 28 January 2023, an Su-30MKI and a Mirage 2000H of the TACDE were involved in a mid-air collision. The Mirage-2000H pilot and instructor, Wing Commander Hanumanth Rao Sarathi, was unable to eject and died in the accident, whereas the two pilots flying the Su-30MKI, ejected and were hospitalised with minor injuries. Both fighter jets had taken off from Maharajpur AFS, Gwalior for a training mission.
  • On 4 June 2024, an Su-30MKI (SB-182) crashed in a farm in Shirasgaon village in Nashik district. The pilots including Wing commander Bokil and Second-in-command Biswas ejected safely from the aircraft. An investigation has been ordered by the Indian Air Force about the cause of the accident.
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That's just poor Indian maintenance procedures

The plane itself is actually a beast, but became it's so big it's massive target for BVRs and it's not helped by Indian arrogance and over confidence mixed with poor training and tactics
 
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