Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Cash gk said:
Now let’s look at reality. The Rafale, ranked at the top, was shot down within the first hour of the engagement. It never even got within 200 miles of Pakistani fighters. By the time the pilot realized he was being locked on by enemy radar, Pakistani missiles were just 50 miles away. He had only five seconds to react — and it was already too late.
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50 miles in 5 seconds
10 miles in 1 second
16 km in 1 second
Mach 50 in 1 second

pretty strong stuff you are smoking @Cash gk
 
Cash gk said:
Then who accepted the terms in Russia, Ukraine war. Who offered the .
ceasefire?
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no one has accepted anything in writing. Russia can keep the 20% of Ukraine. But can they live with an Ukraine - part of EU and NATO ?
 
nahtanbob said:
50 miles in 5 seconds
10 miles in 1 second
16 km in 1 second
Mach 50 in 1 second

pretty strong stuff you are smoking @Cash gk
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Fair point I could be wrong in speed estimate. As I’m not expert and that domain . Doesn’t change the fact that the Rafale was caught off guard, comms were hacked, and the engagement exposed serious vulnerabilities. Let’s stay focused on the bigger picture
 
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nahtanbob said:
no one has accepted anything in writing. Russia can keep the 20% of Ukraine. But can they live with an Ukraine - part of EU and NATO ?
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You just validated my point — Russia will keep 20% of Ukrainian territory. That says everything. For years, your side shouted about destroying Russia, making bold claims like ‘we’ll do this, we’ll do that.’ After spending hundreds of billions of dollars, deploying the best Western military tech, intelligence, and experts — this is the outcome?

Ukraine has lost over 3 million lives. The entire country has been displaced. Millions have migrated across Europe, and their homeland has been reduced to a battlefield. While Europe waged a proxy war against Russia, it also had to bear the burden of Ukrainian refugees.

So yes, all that money, all that hype — and in the end, Russia still walks away with a fifth of Ukraine. That’s not a victory. That’s a lesson.
 
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Colt_Six_Nine said:
Our POV: India's 5-6 losses are our complete victory but our Erieye can be brushed under the carpet.
Indian POV: India's 5-6 losses are a small price to pay for strikes at terr*r targets in Pakistan.
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Where did I say we lost an Erieye idiot?

My pint is we can easily replace them if lost, PAF basically built them and modified them from scratch after Kamra attack. IAF cannot do the same with Phalcons
 
Cash gk said:
You just validated my point — Russia will keep 20% of Ukrainian territory. That says everything. For years, your side shouted about destroying Russia, making bold claims like ‘we’ll do this, we’ll do that.’ After spending hundreds of billions of dollars, deploying the best Western military tech, intelligence, and experts — this is the outcome?

Ukraine has lost over 3 million lives. The entire country has been displaced. Millions have migrated across Europe, and their homeland has been reduced to a battlefield. While Europe waged a proxy war against Russia, it also had to bear the burden of Ukrainian refugees.

So yes, all that money, all that hype — and in the end, Russia still walks away with a fifth of Ukraine. That’s not a victory. That’s a lesson.
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Penny wise. Pound foolish. Russia has 15 million sq km. Adding a small amount of land in Eastern Ukraine does nothing for Russia. When 40 million Ukraine citizens are in NATO/EU it would look like foolish
 
nahtanbob said:
no one has accepted anything in writing. Russia can keep the 20% of Ukraine. But can they live with an Ukraine - part of EU and NATO ?
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Ukraine is a defunct state now. The USA has been paying for Ukrainian govt.'s salaires and pensions. Those who could flee, have fled Ukraine. Ukraine is completely at Russia's mercy now. The Russians are toying with it, very much like a cat toys and plays with a mouse it catches before killing it. I am not comparing Ukraine to a mouse, but the situation is very similar.

In Ukraine too, you will find the evil racist zionists behind the very cause of the war, even though Russia hasn't called it a war officially yet.

Here in the West the populations are largely living paycheck to paycheck now, a large majority have huge debts, are unable to afford to buy homes and are behind on their bills every few months. Many people I know that are making middle class income are planning to leave Canada permanently. Some have already made the decision and are in the process already. All of this is happening while the govt is promising to spend 100s of billions of $$ on a faraway foreign war.

The Liberals won the elections in Canada because they began the process of creating a Crown Corporation to speed up building of homes, approximately 500,000 per year. Very cleverly, ALL parties and even the media avoided any mention of Ukraine during the election campaign. They managed to get the people focused on the trade war.
 
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