Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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I'm sorry but these appear fake and low quality.

I wonder why Indian public didn't upload explosion videos on social media as were done by our public? Same is the case with satellite photos.

Let's agree here that we did manage to outclass them in air by shooting down their 6 jets.. but on AD side and missile/drone offensive front, we couldnt inflict much damage. We can't improve unless we accept our shortcomings.
 
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Drones still loitering may be
Both sides sent drones which are out of contact now and may still be flying inside enemy territory.

Pakistan sent about 400 drones in a large swarm.
They shot down many. But many flew all the way to Delhi. May still be inside Indian territory.
 
Not being skeptical but don't want to blindly believe everything like Indian media..

If s400 in Bhuj and Adampur were really hit, satellite pics would have been available by now.. especially through the Chinese ones
Isn't that briefing video by the PAF general have a slide of S400 hitting?
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I'm very relieved that the recent standoff between the two nuclear-armed nations ended before spiraling out of control. For a couple of tense days, it really felt like we were heading toward an inevitable nuclear confrontation. Thankfully, the worst seems to have been avoided—for now. Hopefully, things can return to some semblance of normalcy, allowing the people of both countries to focus on everyday life rather than the threat of war.


It appears both nations have walked away with just enough to claim a win, while also conceding enough for the other side to do the same—perhaps the best possible outcome under the circumstances. Here's my attempt at a neutral summary, though admittedly from an Indian perspective:


a. India may have succeeded in signaling a shift in its response to major terrorist attacks. By treating asymmetric attacks as equivalent to conventional warfare, India seems to have established a precedent that its retaliatory responses will be similar in both cases. This shift appears to have been one of the core goals of India's initial action.


b. Unlike the 2019 Balakot incident, this time India had photographic evidence to substantiate its claims of striking targets inside Pakistan. More importantly, India managed to exploit the most apparent strategic weakness of Pakistan that stems from its geography—a vulnerability that will be difficult for them to address in the near term.


c. On the other hand, Pakistan demonstrated once again that its air force remains technically or tactically superior in direct engagements. While Pakistan claimed to have shot down five Indian jets, only two such losses have been confirmed via photographic evidence—one of which appears to be a Rafale. India has acknowledged these losses and has not presented comparable proof of similar damage inflicted on Pakistan.


d. Pakistan’s integration of Chinese weapon systems seems to have reached a new level of maturity, rivaling the performance of its older American platforms. This is likely to cause concern for Indian defense planners, especially with the possibility of Pakistan acquiring fifth-generation Chinese fighter jets before India. If that happens, it could tilt air superiority in Pakistan's favor for the foreseeable future.


e. On a positive note for India, its air defense systems reportedly performed well, successfully intercepting Pakistani missiles and defending against current-generation fighter aircraft. As the saying goes, "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"—and this time, Indian missile defense appears to have delivered.


I fear that another conflict is inevitable—but I hope that it won't come any time soon.


P.S. I saw a video of PM Shehbaz Sharif walking confidently alongside General Munir, the head of Pakistan’s armed forces. It seems he has won the admiration of many and is now one of the country's most popular political figures. Credit where it's due—well done. :cool:
 
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Good to see Modi's home state of Gujrat got some special care and attention..
 
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The fact that he switched from "Made in France" to "Made in India" and didn't mention Rafale says it all, whereas in the past he would never have missed an opportunity to glorify Rafale.
 
anyone explain
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Drones. May be to keep watch on indian military movements
 
I'm very relieved that the recent standoff between the two nuclear-armed nations ended before spiraling out of control. For a couple of tense days, it really felt like we were heading toward an inevitable nuclear confrontation. Thankfully, the worst seems to have been avoided—for now. Hopefully, things can return to some semblance of normalcy, allowing the people of both countries to focus on everyday life rather than the threat of war.


It appears both nations have walked away with just enough to claim a win, while also conceding enough for the other side to do the same—perhaps the best possible outcome under the circumstances. Here's my attempt at a neutral summary, though admittedly from an Indian perspective:


a. India may have succeeded in signaling a shift in its response to major terrorist attacks. By treating asymmetric attacks as equivalent to conventional warfare, India seems to have established a precedent that its retaliatory responses will be similar in both cases. This shift appears to have been one of the core goals of India's initial action.


b. Unlike the 2019 Balakot incident, this time India had photographic evidence to substantiate its claims of striking targets inside Pakistan. More importantly, India managed to exploit the most apparent strategic weakness of Pakistan that stems from its geography—a vulnerability that will be difficult for them to address in the near term.


c. On the other hand, Pakistan demonstrated once again that its air force remains technically or tactically superior in direct engagements. While Pakistan claimed to have shot down five Indian jets, only two such losses have been confirmed via photographic evidence—one of which appears to be a Rafale. India has acknowledged these losses and has not presented comparable proof of similar damage inflicted on Pakistan.


d. Pakistan’s integration of Chinese weapon systems seems to have reached a new level of maturity, rivaling the performance of its older American platforms. This is likely to cause concern for Indian defense planners, especially with the possibility of Pakistan acquiring fifth-generation Chinese fighter jets before India. If that happens, it could tilt air superiority in Pakistan's favor for the foreseeable future.


e. On a positive note for India, its air defense systems reportedly performed well, successfully intercepting Pakistani missiles and defending against current-generation fighter aircraft. As the saying goes, "the proof of the pudding is in the eating"—and this time, Indian missile defense appears to have delivered.


I fear that another conflict is inevitable—but I hope that it won't come any time soon.


P.S. I saw a video of PM Shehbaz Sharif walking confidently alongside General Munir, the head of Pakistan’s armed forces. It seems he has won the admiration of many and is now one of the country's most popular political figures. Credit where it's due—well done. :cool:
it's not over yet. there's still the water issue
 
I'm sorry but these appear fake and low quality.

I wonder why Indian public didn't upload explosion videos on social media as were done by our public? Same is the case with satellite photos.

Let's agree here that we did manage to outclass them in air by shooting down their 6 jets.. but on AD side and missile/drone offensive front, we couldnt inflict much damage. We can't improve unless we accept our shortcomings.
There were 3 plumes of smoke coming out of Udhampur, this was shown by ANI news meaning something was definetely hit. And according to Reuters, there were blasts at the army headquarters in Srinagar. But I'll still admit our attacks weren't as effective as India's.
 
Around the 14:51 mark, there is description of the Pakistani air attack on India by this retired Air Marshal, who says he still has connection with serving staff. He describes the Pakistani attack on India using the JF-17 and Mirages and says that at the last moment, Pakistani operators turned missile direction away from the actual target, to avoid going up the escalation ladder.

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Not being skeptical but don't want to blindly believe everything like Indian media..

If s400 in Bhuj and Adampur were really hit, satellite pics would have been available by now.. especially through the Chinese ones

Its like asking sattelite pics of airjeets shot down. Indian army initial reaction is always to hide losses. But doubt they will be able to hide for long.
 
I'm sorry but these appear fake and low quality.

I wonder why Indian public didn't upload explosion videos on social media as were done by our public? Same is the case with satellite photos.

Let's agree here that we did manage to outclass them in air by shooting down their 6 jets.. but on AD side and missile/drone offensive front, we couldnt inflict much damage. We can't improve unless we accept our shortcomings.
Just because you don't see it does not mean it did not happen. This unfortunately is one of the downsides of the SM world. The photos of the S-400 battery hit @ Adampur show otherwise.
I agree that more improvements are needed but that is the case with any conflict.
 

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