Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Gripen9]

Indian Air Force Chief Marshal Birender Singh Dhanoa said the "Su-30 radar is good enough and can pick it (J-20) up from many kilometers away," according to Indian news website Zee News.

"Many kilometers away", dude, it is even visible in "many kilometers away", what can I say if this is their air force chief marshal.

"B" "S" Dhanoa

 

[SABRE]

These IT Jargon babus love "Game changer" Everything is a game changer. Su30 was a game changer - Raptor of the East, will deny PAF their own airspace. BC now won't be seen east of Kalaikunda. Then came S400 now Rafale.

Su-30 was excellent on paper when bought in the late 90s. Gave India power projection and all, which was a key purpose, but it was operationally unavailable in sufficient numbers at a given time. The only aircraft that remained potent even then was the Mirage-2000 and the IAF eventually began pushing the GOI to acquire more Mirages - in large numbers. This subsequently gave birth to MMRCA competition for 126 aircraft and their ToT. In short, MMRCA was, in part, intended to mitigate the Su-30 problem.

 

[ArthurMorgan]

Are there are any credible satellite photos of the destroyed Beas Brahmos facility yet?

Or are we still relying on just one soundless video from 10th May? I wonder why Indians didn't make cell phone videos just like our public did in Nur Khan etc?

 

[MH.Yang]

 

[Serendipity]

Are there are any credible satellite photos of the destroyed Beas Brahmos facility yet?

Or are we still relying on just one soundless video from 10th May? I wonder why Indians didn't make cell phone videos just like our public did in Nur Khan etc?

Because you don't get lynched in Pakiatan for going against political ideologies as easily as you do in India. The witch hunt in India is on right now with social media dissenters being thrown in jail. Who would risk that. Freedom of speech, at the end of the day, is a practical manifestation. Don't hear about anyone being beaten with sticks for sharing videos or being a Hindu in Pakistan. I thought that would be self evident.

 

[Aggregate]

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New 300 Million USD Deal from US to Turkiye, amendment of relations. Whoever said Trump-Modi is gonna change everything was definitely right, just in reverse of what they expected. Trump is on a mission to make India cry louder and heavier, every single day.

Btw, Palki Sharma has declared Turkiye their Enemy #2 at 0:53 now . Since PL15s did their job, nobody on their mainstream Media is talking against China as the enemy, they only wanna shout against against 9 times smaller countries like Pakistan .. and still fail.

 

[r3alist]

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New 300 Million USD Deal from US to Turkiye, amendment of relations. Whoever said Trump-Modi is gonna change everything was definitely right, just in reverse of what they expected. Trump is on a mission to make India cry louder and heavier, every single day.

Btw, Palki Sharma has declared Turkiye their Enemy #2 at 0:53 now . Since PL15s did their job, nobody on their mainstream Media is talking against China as the enemy, they only wanna shout against against 9 times smaller countries like Pakistan .. and still fail.

What about f 16 lol

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l

 

[Fatman17]

Bollywood

 

[Baibers_1260]

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New 300 Million USD Deal from US to Turkiye, amendment of relations. Whoever said Trump-Modi is gonna change everything was definitely right, just in reverse of what they expected. Trump is on a mission to make India cry louder and heavier, every single day.

Btw, Palki Sharma has declared Turkiye their Enemy #2 at 0:53 now . Since PL15s did their job, nobody on their mainstream Media is talking against China as the enemy, they only wanna shout against against 9 times smaller countries like Pakistan .. and still fail.

@Sharma Ji All because of a few lack lustre Bayraktar Drones? Funny no one in India is calling for a boycott of China which supplied J10C and PL-15 missiles. No Chinese restaurants have been ransacked, No Chinese flags have been stomped on No Chinese visitors have been lynched, A movie on Galwan has not been launched by Bollywood yet.

As of 2023 There were 23,198 Indian students studying in China .

Wonder why?

 

[Ali_Baba]

He at least was shot down in a MiG-21. The survivors of the Rafale shoot downs will be glad their names aren’t yet known.

Exactly! How can those pilots live that down within the IAF let alone globally if their identities are ever known. Their careers are over in the IAF. The Rafales community is small in India, so not too difficult to work out who they are.

Abhi is off the hook now.

 

[r3alist]

@Sharma Ji

What's the deal with this story here, I don't get why it's worth so much time, is it just that she seems like she was on talking terms with someone in Pakistan and therefore that is outrageous?

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Will you be okay, sir?

 

[NA71]

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[Raj-Hindustani]

Based on the available evidence, two major claims currently appear false or unverified:

Shooting down PAF fighters – There's no credible or independently confirmed proof supporting this. Indian narratives have no evidence, and open-source data doesn't back the claim.

Destroying S-400 systems – This appears highly unlikely. No reliable evidence has emerged showing damage to such high-value Russian systems, which would otherwise be a major strategic event.

To me this is more interesting about kirana hills because it's very sensitive, the situation remains murky. It's an extremely sensitive location, and the fog around it is thick. Even international conflict trackers and media outlets report inconsistently

 

[NA71]

Based on the available evidence, two major claims currently appear false or unverified:

Shooting down PAF fighters – There's no credible or independently confirmed proof supporting this. Indian narratives have no evidence, and open-source data doesn't back the claim.

Destroying S-400 systems – This appears highly unlikely. No reliable evidence has emerged showing damage to such high-value Russian systems, which would otherwise be a major strategic event.

To me this is more interesting about kirana hills because it's very sensitive, the situation remains murky. It's an extremely sensitive location, and the fog around it is thick. Even international conflict trackers and media outlets report inconsistently

You have solved the greatest mystery…. Thank you Raj.

Even French Dassault would be grateful to you.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

That is pure nonsense. The guy is claiming that just by watching Western Jets flying near their border, China was able to copy them and then come up with better EW. China had NO EXPOSURE to Western Jets. So how would they come up with counter measures??

Here is the correct answer - Chinese exposure to Western Jets and techology came via Pakistan mainly, and via France to lesser extent. This is what allowed China to manufacture modern jets. This is what allowed China to get exposure to Western tactics, EW, etc.

Yes I agree that today China is class of its own but they is no fuking way the Chinese could got a start like this without HELP from someone like Pakistan, etc.

thats dangerous, it de-composes escalatory ladder into just 2 steps, without even going into ground invasion.

In other words, it is a trade-off between air superiority and missile dominance, and, there can be no optimal results when trade-offs are involved.

Result is much shortened escalatory ladder in South Asia!