Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

@Sharma Ji , We Indians aspire to be like China in economic and military clout and like Israel in its relationship with the USA.
Neither aspirations have been fulfilled at this time.

The irony is that India is part of the anti-China Quad alliance and is also part of BRICS.


What a palava.

BRICS I think is personally dead compared to its origin, it needs a complete rebranding to reflect the changing geopolitical situation. It's clear it that it is a vehicle for a Russia and Chinese lead technological and financial order, so it's either you are with the dollar or you are not.

India has clearly stated that it only seeks better positioning in their current status quo, so really how far can India or how much can it contribute
 
So plenty of the same types of organisations hold protests in favour of the Palestinians in USA, UK, Germany, and EVEN IN ISRAEL ITSELF.

Does that make any of those nations "pro-Palestinian"?

India is judged - rightly - on the actions and inactions of its overwhelmingly elected government, not on the screams of a minority of dissenters.
Judge away all you want. Idhar our calculus is > none of our god damn problem, this Gaza and Ukraine or whatever else.
 
Amongst all that is going on, do you notice how quiet the Indian media is on Israeli support?

Remember, they have always had a quiet but significant interest in Pakistan's missile programme.


Also, let's not underestimate the fact that their drones are probably sending data directly back to Israel understanding very well Indian but also Pakistan's capability first hand

You will also notice, that the Pakistani mainstream press are also bringing in Israel into the discussion, but the Indians are not.

Israel may well have encouraged India into doing this, partly to disrupt Pakistan's defence industry as you say and overall capability but also to distract the world with a new war and new headlines while it moves towards its "final solution" for the Gazan citizens.

The Americans may well have encouraged(ie JD Vance) India into this, partly to neutralise Pakistan versus its standoff with China, partly to test Chinese weapons in combat and partially to see if their investment in India has paid off or not or if they need to go back to the drawing board on their approach with India. The USA has invested close to 40 years of economic investment into India to try and build her up as a competitor to China and right now, it looks like that investment is not paying off. India as shown it cannot militarily fight China, and it will not go unnoticed to the USA how very very quiet India has been on recent encroachments in Arunchal Pradesh.

India, however was made to look like global jackasses from this adventure though, so they will be wary about listening to Israel, or the USA until they can be confident of success. The Brahmos is a strategic weakness for Pakistan that India has seen, and India has in this round demonstrated much better precision(runway targetting) than Pakistan has. Fateh is not precise enough, it is more area denial platform than middle of the runway targeting precision capability type of platform.

The problem that India has, is that Pakistan's capability will only grow over time as it infused what China is prepared to sell, what Turkey can develop and sell to Pakistan(and Pakistan can afford) and what Pakistan develops itself. So, the catchup is quite difficult for India right now.

Lets see. So many permutations of what is actually going on behind the scenes, versus what has been declared publicly as 'the narrative'.
 
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Honestly, I know nothing of this story.. PDF pe hi first time just heard.
 
No harm, no foul

right ?
Yes, no harm except for those whose homes are bulldozed and those who are lynched for not chanting a religious slogan, or eating a type of meat prohibited by law.

Didn't answer how the $50 trillion economy superpower is going to crush Turkey, Afghanistan, Bangladesh for supporting Pakistan, .. oh.. sorry I forgot about China.

Curious why there are social media posts calling for Boycott Trump, and Boycott USA , Aren't H1B visas still desirable?
 

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