Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

RescueRanger said:
You cannot make this stuff up!

Not only have the Indian NIA (Their version of our FIA) arrested SIX members of the BJP IT cell for visiting Pakistan and vlogging about it.
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Some Indians are now using an old interview to claim veteran Indian journalist Karan Thapar is an ISI Spy.

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Thisnis what happens when society high on fascist ferver loses. They eat their own.

They will arrest anyone they thing is a dissident, even if innocent.
 
India's actions in this conflict have torn apart many military propaganda packages. 1. The hasty launch of military satellites after a conflict and their failure proves that they do not have an advantage in the space field and the situation is urgent, leading to an increased risk of failure. It also indicates that satellites are one of the forefront of modern information warfare. 2. Traditional 4.5-generation multifunctional fighter jets have been proven to have weakened effectiveness in high-intensity air combat, and cannot perfectly balance air combat and ground attack. Although the Su30 equipment is relatively old, it has a high payload capacity and a long range. Carrying air to ground weapons can still cause damage at a distance. On the contrary, the Rafale fighter lacks the advantage of beyond visual range air combat, and its other functions can be replaced, making it a high-value target for fire gathering. The theory of air superiority fighter jets and bomb trucks is more suitable for high-intensity warfare than multifunctional fighter jets, provided there is sufficient budget.
 
On the topic of the rafale, beyond whether if the fighter is good, or if it was the pilot's fault or not; it was almost just as much of a combat virgin as the J-10C.

If was used against ground targets, sure, but those were in places like Libya, Mali, Yemen, and basically nations that had no air force, and no air defense. You'd get the same results if the French had used their older Mirage fighters.

Meaning, no one actually knew how it would actually perform against an equal.

And this is true for 90% of modern fighters.

Really, the only 4.5 gen fighters (until thlis war)that had proper air to air combat experience were the F-16 from the USA (used by Pakistan, Israel, and now Ukraine), and pretty much the entire Russian air arsenal due to the Ukraine war (used by both sides).

And they've all performed dismally, with the F-16 being better off than the others.
 
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If true (although I don’t think it is), why do we even need to spend such huge amount on missiles that are inferior to our current lot?
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Because Pakistan has a large F-16 fleet, and having AA missiles for them is important.

Also, this is likely not true.
 
Raj-Hindustani said:
BSF - border security force, he was not a S400 operator

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Coping pretty hard buddy. Modi got you and millions totally fooled by doing his Adampur base spectacular fraud.

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By the way, where was the 96L6E "Cheese Board" radar on his visit to Adampur, eh?

Oh wait, it was conveniently not mentioned because Modi knows how dumb his followers truly are. :LOL:

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Just do a simple search on Youtube for "Russian S-400 Ukraine" and see for yourself how utterly useless the S-400 is.

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So hey, good luck getting more S-400s because Russia is losing their own S-400 systems worth in $BILLIONS. :)
 
Master Chief said:
If he indeed said that "Modi could not control an air war", then I would argue that his prediction was at least partially correct. He perhaps did not expect an air war initially because he held out some semblance of hope that India's war planners - whom you will recall had been given a free hand or five by Modi - would not engage so suicidally with our superior air force.

I think your bias is shining though here and you simply want him to be wrong because he dares to suggest Indian fallibility.

It is this stubbornness that sets India apart from professional militaries that you procure a lot of training and equipment from, and perhaps seek to emulate, like Israel or Russia. Brute numbers alone will not win you any more battles against Pakistan - that era has long gone.

Carry on ignoring him please.
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Yeah I agree. He didn't think the Indians would be stupid enough to activate this plan.

Looks like the whole "free hand to armed forces" was fake and this was a strike for political reasons and as per orders to Indian military. As has already been determined, material losses are no big deal and easily repaired, moved, rebuilt and by their very nature portable.
 
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If true (although I don’t think it is), why do we even need to spend such huge amount on missiles that are inferior to our current lot?
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If true - which I doubt - first, all of the F-16s in PAF need their radars and avionics upgraded (preferably with AN/APG-83 SABR AESA radar), and then PAF can consider the AIM-120D.
 
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Interesting language, "Limited" damage?
Limited by what?
Limited by the explosive power of the projectile!
Limited =/= Minor
 
That_Guy said:
On the topic of the rafale, beyond whether if the fighter is good, or if it was the pilot's fault or not; it was almost just as much of a combat virgin as the J-10C.

If was used against ground targets, sure, but those were in places like Libya, Mali, Yemen, and basically nations that had no air force, and no air defense. You'd get the same results if the French had used their older Mirage fighters.

Meaning, no one actually knew how it would actually perform against an equal.
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advertising and marketing is the key, beautiful films taken from the company or during the deployment, this is the area where Chinese defense giants seriously lacks, they are not good at marketing.
 
Goenitz said:
Sir, it was losses per capita. The runways can be repaired but they were out of service. That meant we couldn't take off and couldn't be airborne for a long time as we lacked refuellers, not to mention repairing and maintenance.
IAF, even with one airbase intact, can inflict heavy losses on Gazans and Houthis as it has no opposition or conventional force.
Yes, we destroyed their Brahmos storage and many things.
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In Singapore and Taiwan, the highway divider can be shifted aside to open up the full width of the highway to be used as a runway.

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This is 9-10 years old.
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Khanivore said:
Coping pretty hard buddy. Modi got you and millions totally fooled by doing his Adampur base spectacular fraud.

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By the way, where was the 96L6E "Cheese Board" radar on his visit to Adampur, eh?

Oh wait, it was conveniently not mentioned because Modi knows how dumb his followers truly are. :LOL:

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Just do a simple search on Youtube for "Russian S-400 Ukraine" and see for yourself how utterly useless the S-400 is.

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So hey, good luck getting more S-400s because Russia is losing their own S-400 systems worth in $BILLIONS. :)
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It's a fact that you can't conceal significant destruction if it occurs.

And I will be surprised if chinese satellites are not monitoring daily; if they don't then I would say, they are incompetent on it.... Because, even today no war between India and China, but they are still monitoring all the sensitive bases.

Many other satellites are already monitoring these sensitive areas. If India makes a claim today, it will be validated by these organizations, and the same goes for any claims from Pakistan. Only after verification will others believe the information, as they tend to rely on evidence rather than emotions.
 
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