Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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The problem with that line is how the damage on Indian side was more but invisible? That does not happen.

I didn't say that--on the contrary.
I believe India's numerical superiority of assets on May 10 gave India slight edge in causing damage to Pakistan but not much damage. I also suspect there was some kind of 'understanding' brokered by the departing Saudi diplomats prior to the May 10 skirmish: Both sides were not going to cross the Rubicon as that would be too dangerous for a chunk of the world itself.
But there is no denying that India lost on multiple level between May 7 and May 10 and had it not been the case, Indians wouldn't be seeking to strike Pakistan again and had it not been the cause, the discourse in India and by Indians would be more cheerful. In contrast, Pakistan and China definitely ended on a high high and from Pakistan's star is rising now while India is insulted in military forums and insulted by Trump on almost daily basis.
 
I didn't say that--on the contrary.
I believe India's numerical superiority of assets on May 10 gave India slight edge in causing damage to Pakistan but not much damage. I also suspect there was some kind of 'understanding' brokered by the departing Saudi diplomats prior to the May 10 skirmish: Both sides were not going to cross the Rubicon as that would be too dangerous for a chunk of the world itself.
But there is no denying that India lost on multiple level between May 7 and May 10 and had it not been the case, Indians wouldn't be seeking to strike Pakistan again and had it not been the cause, the discourse in India and by Indians would be more cheerful. In contrast, Pakistan and China definitely ended on a high high and from Pakistan's star is rising now while India is insulted in military forums and insulted by Trump on almost daily basis.
I think I had said it before too. India set out to do certain goals and those were achieved. It was to bomb what it considers terror training camps. That it achieved.

Remarkably, compared to that degree of damage, nothing was seen in any of the military bases in India -- since goal of Pakistan was to punish Indian military.

The price it paid was in jets shot down. Apparently those are not big deal for them.
 
Lol. Turns out you are all the same. I was giving you benefit of doubt.

Not interested in after thought written releases.
This is a question of facts. You have not shown a single reliable source but some random tweets with doctored videos. I have given you official transcript of briefing. Get me an official source of that video and then we will talk.
 
Lol. Turns out you are all the same. I was giving you benefit of doubt.

Not interested in after thought written releases.
Let’s see how many people buy J-10c in the next year. And if India will buy more Rafale. Also, let’s see if Russia will buy Brahmos.
 
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With all due respects to this retired guy, he is bullshitting. PAF COULD NOT have developed this system without Chinese help. Such an integrated system requires AI infusion and satellite connectivity. None of this PAF could have achieved without Chinese help.
 
This is a question of facts. You have not shown a single reliable source but some random tweets with doctored videos. I have given you official transcript of briefing. Get me an official source of that video and then we will talk.
The official response by Indian air marshal when he was asked if India lost any Rafale, “losses are part of the combat” Translation, India Rafale got shot down.
 
Few weeks have gone by and we have a lingering issue of the female pilot.

Indians are not putting at rest the rumor mills and Pakistanis are mum about it.
 
Back in 2019, Pakistan showed restraint and it only emboldened India, 2025 we did the same mistake, maybe just maybe our side need to see what they are dealing with and show no restraint next time. I see posts claiming that after 100s of drones and missiles from Pakistan, the only loss in India was some broken glass etc.
 
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The Pakistani on here has claimed the deal for 40 J35s was signed yesterday!! China is diverting it's J35s to Pakistan?!!
 
The official response by Indian air marshal when he was asked if India lost any Rafale, “losses are part of the combat” Translation, India Rafale got shot down.
No question. ATLEAST one Rafale was shot down.
 
No. Its much simpler than that. Because no one in India gets fired or denied in promotion if military capabilities suffers. Because no elections are lost due to military losses. However, if a corruption scandal is found, everyone suffers. So no one is willing to get stuff for military and can is kicked further and further till India loses something major. Then all of a sudden things are done becauses elections and necks are on sword.

When that happens, leaders push and things happen.

When 62 happened, Nehru died out of stress. Then 65 happened. Shastri died out of stress. End of Gandhian stupidity happened. Indra Gandhi took lessons and suddenly military was a priority. India raised a mountain division to keep China at bay. Relationship with Russia was cultivated. Soviet hardware entered in India in big numbers. The same hardware is in still in use till date. Then 71 was a big success. 74 test was a success. Then entire nation was lulled.

Same thing happen with Rajiv Gandhi. He was Nehru part 2. Fortunately he was assassinated for his stupid decisions in Sri Lanka. Next Prime Minister took things more seriously and his focus lead to 98 test. Bajpeyi was Nehru part 3. He was caught blindsided in 1999. Then he expedited Sukhois. Still too little too late to prevent disasterous Op Parakram after attack on Parliament.

Then came Manmohan... He completely neglected military and internal security & focused purely on economy. Then major incidences happened. 2008 Mumbai attack. 2010 Dantewada naxal ambush leading to biggest number of crpf forces killed. He was Nehru part 4.

Modi is a continuation of similar series. He is Nehru 5. He focuses on socialistic spending for winning elections and military projects or purchases are least of his bother. Fortunately his partner Shah is hard on internal security and he does what he can for that front. He has been killing threats in and out of India.

India spends only 1.9% of GDP on defence. Most goes for wages and pensions. If they only boost it to 2.5% that will be 24 billion dollars each year extra. They can fix a lot pretty fast.

I guess either Modi will suffer something himself or India will again lose something big --equipment do no matter here for Modi etc to take defence seriously.
"Because no one in India gets fired or denied in promotion if military capabilities suffers."

I stopped reading at this mythological juncture. You people wholeheartedly believe in your "Secular democracy" propaganda - i will give you that.
 
Few weeks have gone by and we have a lingering issue of the female pilot.

Indians are not putting at rest the rumor mills and Pakistanis are mum about it.
I think the joke is on those who believed in such rumors ... for so long now.
 

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