Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Israel did not get as much involved in this conflict as I had really feared. Part of that was Pakistan didn't get too involved during the Israel-Gaza conflict. Pakistan's focus was, is, and will remain countering a powerful enemy to Pakistan's east and Israel, too, has many worries right now.
But you are right about the America connection if Israel would be involved. And so far, I don't see a reason to think Americans have tried to damage Pakistan through India in this conflict. On the contrary.
The promising of outcome, without which the Brahmin would not dare even think of a war.

The only ones promising any outcome to the Brahmins of India are the Zionists of Israel. That is a lot more than anyone had done for anyone recently in the region and beyond.
 
even if cringy, I am guessing that the Pakistan side will be pretty full and the indian side might not be (after all the truth comes out).
It's also a great place/occasion for visitors, children and adults to come watch our Rangers display some moves to impress.
Pakistan side will now again be FULL HOUSES!
Good enough!

But I still say to avoid any "shows" whatsoever!
 
It would not have been inevitable if civilian officials had not rebelled against the State of Pakistan for apparent promise of financial glory.

Before a war is won or lost on the battlefield, it is won or lost in the psyche.

Nobody is yet to explain it to me or one is allowed to talk on the forum that how the people who helped create the Muslim League, invest wholeheartedly in Jinnahs direct action day simply turned away their faces to the very concept of Pakistan. No dumb **** populist or opportune mothafucka can explain the phenomenon.
The very idea of a nation state comprising two land masses separated by thousands of Kms of a biligerant hostile country, add to that the eastern state with a completely different culture, heritage and language, was completely idiotic and stupid. Bangladesh should have been created in 1947 along with India and Pakistan, that way we could have avoided 1971 and fostered a strategic alliance with Bangladesh right from 1947.
 
Like many others, you sound like a fanboy. And there is no way to convince one.

Not one element of proof of any attack on Indian high value targets claimed by you. DGISPR claimed that we attacked across the entire front and 26 airbases, but went silent when it came to proving any proof of these.

All about radiation leak etc was propagated about Kirana Hills too but it was all part of misinformation campaign. It was OK to believe the narrative being dished out by one’s own side when the conflict is On, but 2 weeks later any rational person would start sifting trough chaff and grains and see the reality.

There is no element of doubt now that Air Defence this side did a stellar job and didn’t let anyone through to attack any high value target. How do we know? If there was even a partial success in any of these attacks from Pakaistn side then they would have come out with battle damage assessment, the way it was brought out for the Paksiatni side.

Forget about them, even the private agencies have got hold of these and are available all over as a proof.

So chest thumping is fine for Air to Air part, where IAF suffered losses.

But your side AD was exposed and found wanting and couldn’t protect high value assets even within few miles from the National Capital.
I heard some very important eu countries invited Pakistani pilots those were involved in recent action against India
 
That is why anyone who decided to and agreed with the debacle of "showing restraint" at that time should be stripped and shot dead and cut into pieces for such a treachery!!

God damn traitors they are for doing this sin, every last one of the "show restraint" ball-less maatherchode kuttion kay bachay!!
Thanks heavens people sitting in GHQ are not rabies stricken like you.
 
So.
How many Indian aircraft losses can be confirmed by social media videos?

I counted 4.
One was the famous video from Bhatinda . Rafale
19 minutes video from pampore where firemen can be seen extinguishing fire at night. That's mirage 2000.

Then the debris in a hilly slope in a forest where the Indian soldier says , an Indian jet crashed. That's Mig 29 or SU 30. Nobody says place name , but seems like Kashmir.

And this one from Akhnoor where the guy says two pilots rescued.
Meaning it was SU 30

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So.
How many Indian aircraft losses can be confirmed by social media videos?

I counted 4.
One was the famous video from Bhatinda . Rafale
19 minutes video from pampore where firemen can be seen extinguishing fire at night. That's mirage 2000.

Then the debris in a hilly slope in a forest where the Indian soldier says , an Indian jet crashed. That's Mig 29 or SU 30. Nobody says place name , but seems like Kashmir.

And this one from Akhnoor where the guy says two pilots rescued.
Meaning it was SU 30

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Hindu newspaper confirmed 4 kills quoting government sources and then the post was deleted under pressure from the Indian government. Later hindu newspaper made a official complaint to the Indian government. (Media sources)
 
Hindu newspaper confirmed 4 kills quoting government sources and then the post was deleted under pressure from the Indian government. Later hindu newspaper made a official complaint to the Indian government. (Media sources)
The remaining two are Rafale.
Those were shot down in Kashmir.
Probably fell in remote areas , where nobody was recording
 

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