Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Oracle]

The host was extremely impolite and rude, constantly interrupting Dr. Gao when he was speaking.

The host is extremely hostile, and famous for being cheap war mongor fake shows.

He reduces audio of guests.
This show was most civilised discussion I have ever seen him doing

 

[Master Chief]

I am sure @Puncher would clarify, but my take is that, he analysed the situation by bringing out the facts. The facts that bring out the reasons of the suspension of IWT. And the analysis is a compelling one.

It is not about endorsing or condemning the situation at all. It doesn’t make any difference either. All members here can cry a river or cheer all the way, if they want, wouldn’t make a sausage of difference to the policy makers.

Dont shoot the messenger here.

My question to you and your countrymen is simple. Do you condemn terrorism being advocated for by Narendra Modi or not?

The capability to achieve said terrorism is irrelevant.

The problem Pakistan has to deal with is the mentality of Indians and their democratically elected representatives. It has been understood that terrorism against Pakistani civilians is acceptable and even encouraged at a state level and at an individual citizen level. The brainwashing is complete in my opinion. No negotiations are possible with those who think like this.

 

[Puncher]

Wrong number. You are using projected GDP for India in 2025.

Actual comparison is $3.9 trillion vs $411b for 2024-25 FY.

Second thing is as recent war have shown Pakistan had air superiority despite 10 times less budget. China factor is huge.

China doesnt give us free stuff but there are good reasons to believe they sell us at a cost. F-35 for India will cost $350m a piece but Pakistan will get J-35 from China for $60-70m.

J-10c cost $40m vs $280m for Rafale. Pakistan have access to cutting edge China sat network, which is many times more advanced then anything India have.

And then nukes deter prolonged war as we have seen recently. Both sides dont want to get to that point. Especially India which have 10x more to lose in nuclear fallout.

India’s GDP, according to the latest IMF data, stands at $4.19 trillion, vastly outpacing Pakistan’s $410 billion—a stark tenfold gap that highlights India’s economic dominance in South Asia. This disparity strengthens India’s strategic position, while Pakistan’s smaller economy relies heavily on external support to sustain regional influence.


On China’s role in supporting Pakistan, Beijing provides measured assistance to keep India engaged in regional tensions, primarily through military and economic aid. However, China is cautious not to push India into a full anti-China military alliance. A 2023 report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies indicates that China calibrates its support to avoid driving India into an irreversible alignment with the U.S. and its allies, which could disrupt Beijing’s regional strategy.


A direct India-China conflict would likely draw U.S. involvement, a scenario China seeks to avoid. The U.S. has shown its willingness to counter adversaries through significant aid, as evidenced by over Russia Ukraine war since 2022 to weaken Russia. Similarly, U.S. support for India—potentially including advanced military technology and intelligence—could severely challenge China.


China will continue to support Pakistan to maintain strategic leverage but will avoid crossing a threshold that risks a broader U.S.-India alignment, preserving its regional influence without triggering a larger conflict.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

So this is what I believe as Pakistani

India lost aerial battle of 7 may lost 3-4jets ( confirmed)

India hit hq9.. ( repairable or no majir imapct)

Pakistan got mild hit on 10th May earlier . (confirmed, no aerial asset loss)

Pakistan attacked back now here we don't have any evidence shared by Pakistani govt. May be there are some satellite images however it dissolved in fog of war. S400 hitting evidence is not there. Hitting s400 should have been exposed properly to Deter India

Indian strike on 10 th may later that day... Pakistan got some Impact ( 1 aerial. Asset imapct / repairable)

Overall Pakistan did achieve victory. Specially SH artillery was amazing.

Pak. played as if there was no S400 present (that was the RESPONSE!)

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

India’s GDP, according to the latest IMF data, stands at $4.19 trillion, vastly outpacing Pakistan’s $410 billion—a stark tenfold gap that highlights India’s economic dominance in South Asia. This disparity strengthens India’s strategic position, while Pakistan’s smaller economy relies heavily on external support to sustain regional influence.


On China’s role in supporting Pakistan, Beijing provides measured assistance to keep India engaged in regional tensions, primarily through military and economic aid. However, China is cautious not to push India into a full anti-China military alliance. A 2023 report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies indicates that China calibrates its support to avoid driving India into an irreversible alignment with the U.S. and its allies, which could disrupt Beijing’s regional strategy.


A direct India-China conflict would likely draw U.S. involvement, a scenario China seeks to avoid. The U.S. has shown its willingness to counter adversaries through significant aid, as evidenced by over Russia Ukraine war since 2022 to weaken Russia. Similarly, U.S. support for India—potentially including advanced military technology and intelligence—could severely challenge China.


China will continue to support Pakistan to maintain strategic leverage but will avoid crossing a threshold that risks a broader U.S.-India alignment, preserving its regional influence without triggering a larger conflict.

reported for non-related facts (like filling up uselessly) and mild propaganda

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I just reread my comment to see if I really said that at the end and no, I have not said that and I don't mean that.. what i was saying that pakistan can't compete with India apple to apple, and a continued brinkmanship suits India ,as we can afford it. can pakistan match India, and if not why not relook at some of your historic stands - like Kashmir and terrorism..

*reported*

I see this, I saw that
I read this, I read that
(almost propaganda)
and


where are words like observed, underlying meaning, implication, derived, understood, aligned....

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Bathinda Rafale pilot is alive.


The HQ-9 they claim in Lahore wasn't hit. There was a picture of a damaged truck with reports of 4 injured soldiers. That was more likely a UAV command truck.

HQ 9 was not hit

 

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Probably AI generated but not long in PAF arsenal.

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And I tend to agree, lolz

 

[Abdul q]

Remove top 1% of capitalists of india it will turn into endia…

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

One question does pakistan may have YJ-91 or YJ-83k with J-10CE?

I just hope whatever we have, does its job beyond its spec!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The host was extremely impolite and rude, constantly interrupting Dr. Gao when he was speaking.

host seemed to be *very irritated* with Chinese weaponry...!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Not every Indian supports the idea of starving 250 million people of fresh water. That would be catastrophic—morally, regionally, and environmentally. I count myself among those who believe that long-term peace and sustainability must prevail over punitive instincts.


However, our neighbors in Pakistan must also understand: these developments around water and infrastructure aren't spontaneous—they're deliberate and strategic. India has begun laying the groundwork. The question is: will the Pakistani establishment recognize this shift before it's too late, or will it fall into the "boiling frog" syndrome—acting only when the damage is irreversible?


Let’s also acknowledge the changing balance of power through an economic lens.

• In 2016, when India conducted the surgical strikes, our GDP stood at $2.16 trillion. Pakistan's GDP was $313 billion.
• In 2019, during the Balakot air strikes, India's GDP had grown to $2.9 trillion, while Pakistan’s was $320 billion.
• Now, in 2025, following Operation SINDOOR, India's GDP is at $4.19 trillion. Pakistan’s stands at approximately $380 billion.

The takeaway is clear: with each crisis, India returns to the table stronger—economically and militarily. It can afford the risks of escalation and strategic signaling. The question Pakistan must ask itself is—can it match that trajectory? Can it bear the costs of continued brinkmanship?

goes both ways..... we never said our economy is doing wonders
we know our limitations and problems.
why are you comparing the two?!

 

[sutton9999]

Dude come on...this is very flawed method of timing the video as mentioned by everyone all over X..its obviously from pak-india stand off

Indians work there can create posts and change the time stamps.

 

[Fatman17]

India’s GDP, according to the latest IMF data, stands at $4.19 trillion, vastly outpacing Pakistan’s $410 billion—a stark tenfold gap that highlights India’s economic dominance in South Asia. This disparity strengthens India’s strategic position, while Pakistan’s smaller economy relies heavily on external support to sustain regional influence.


On China’s role in supporting Pakistan, Beijing provides measured assistance to keep India engaged in regional tensions, primarily through military and economic aid. However, China is cautious not to push India into a full anti-China military alliance. A 2023 report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies indicates that China calibrates its support to avoid driving India into an irreversible alignment with the U.S. and its allies, which could disrupt Beijing’s regional strategy.


A direct India-China conflict would likely draw U.S. involvement, a scenario China seeks to avoid. The U.S. has shown its willingness to counter adversaries through significant aid, as evidenced by over Russia Ukraine war since 2022 to weaken Russia. Similarly, U.S. support for India—potentially including advanced military technology and intelligence—could severely challenge China.


China will continue to support Pakistan to maintain strategic leverage but will avoid crossing a threshold that risks a broader U.S.-India alignment, preserving its regional influence without triggering a larger conflict.

Feel good analysis

 

[Abdul q]

Feel good analysis

Just wasted three words