Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Musings]

Sir he is on duty ....he is one from lost army...there are many engaged to counter Pakistani info offenssive on SM.....

They come on here as a matter of life and death - and have a couple of other accounts too - ridiculous.

 

[Arsalan45]

Simla accord is dead. Azad Kashmir government can ask for volunteers and the world has moved past covert operations. Azad Kashmir delegations to China are not uncommon.

In best interest for the region, Pakistan is open to a trilateral agreement on Kashmir with China and India provided that the people of Kashmir are given their rights to self determination. This would offer a roadmap to other territorial disputes and water issues for the whole region.

All political and military solutions are on the table for Kashmir. If India opts out of a peaceful resolution, Pakistan and China can bilaterally resolve Kashmir issue.

No no sorry this Rona dhona kashmir rights etc this will not work against india anymore. You aren’t understanding the gravity of situation. It’s basically either us or them. That’s why we should tell china clearly that we are expecting a joint military operation against India. 3 things must happen before asking china to help for one final war.

1) declare kashmir as integral part of china and Pakistan. Kashmir a bilateral issue between china and Pakistan. India has no authority on Kashmir as it’s not a party in the Kashmir dispute. Rejecting all documents of Hindu raja that gave Kashmir to india. Urging india to vacate Indian occupied kashmir( very very aggressive policy). Declaring Kashmir as part of china and Pakistan is extremely important as this will give both countries excuse to invade Indian Kashmir. World will condemn it but nothing will happen as Allies are sick and tired of india.

2) china and Pakistan military training near azaad kashmir and near punjab. Mobilization of Chinese military near azaad kashmir, Aksai chin. Heavy military deployment of Chinese pakistani military in punjab. Massive naval training before show starts.

3) attack on Indian kashmir from azaad kashmir. Full throttle. India will open another front possibly punjab but was beaten back because of numerical superiority of china and pak militaries. Attack from aksai chin to confuse Indian armed forces. Push and push hard inside Indian controlled Kashmir. Kargil capture. United States putting pressure on pak to stop. Pak doesn’t pay heed. Sinking of nuclear submarines of india from
Chinese and pakistani submarines.

4) extreme fast pace. Most of enemy assets should be neautralised within one week otherwise other countries will send reinforcements but will never involve directly.

5) capture of Indian kashmir within one month by absorbing all
The external pressure and calls of ceasefire.

6) surrender of Indian army. Capture of ladakh and Indian army encircled. Surrender. End of the game. Modi humiliated, resigned. Bjp goes into gutter.

Let’s do this together.

 

[Be dazzled]

Someone show this to Arnab. SH15 and Fatah GMLRS mean business. The structure is nearly totaled.

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[SoulSpokesman]

@Arsalan45

Arsalan sb,

That’s why we should tell china clearly that we are expecting a joint military operation against India.

Suppose they say no? Would you still go ahead?

Regards

 

[Arsalan45]

@Arsalan45

Arsalan sb,

That’s why we should tell china clearly that we are expecting a joint military operation against India.

Suppose they say no? Would you still go ahead?

Regards

I don’t think that they will say no. We must send right people. We share very very warm relations which india will never understand and china is now superpower so superpower needs new territories. India has to sacrifice. No other option.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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Look at this troll!


'Farmer died'!

Farmer died and burnt down Rafaele and whole team of security came down to salute him!

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

I don’t think that they will say no. We must send right people. We share very very warm relations which india will never understand and china is now superpower so superpower needs new territories. India has to sacrifice. No other option.

China is itching to reclaim Zangnan and some areas from IoK. Its perfect time to end this dispute.

 

[Be dazzled]

He is an Indian who has stolen the identity of a serious Pakistani poster .... He is just an imposter

No wonder why he smells like a rat these days.

 

[Corax]

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Look at this troll!


'Farmer died'!

Farmer died and burnt down Rafaele and whole team of security came down to salute him!

Yeah, a burning destroyed Rafale fell on a farmer who just happened to be standing in the middle of a field at 1am in the night...was was he doing, taking a dump?

 

[PakShaheen_79]

For all those Indians who think there is no thermal power plant near Beas River.
Located at 31°22'58.26"N,75° 8'53.88"E

 

[Be dazzled]

Details of kills, killers and status of pilots.

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[Guynextdoor]

/ — INFORMATION OF DOWNED IAF PLANES AND RESPECTIVE PILOTS

1: Mirage-2000
Location: Pampore
Pilot Name: W/C Omanakuttam
Service No: 30384
Shot Credit: J-10C via PL-15
Condition: Held at 92 Base Hospital Srinagar in critical condition.

2: Mig-29
Location: Ramban
Pilot Name: S/L Keshav Yadav
Service No: 32394
Shot Credit: Jf-17 via PL-15
Condition: Was held at Command Hospital Udhampur, death on May 22, 2025.

3: Su-30MKI
Location: Akhnoor
Pilot 1: W/C Lalit Garg
Service No: 29690
Pilot 2: F/L Mundit Tewari
Service No: 36415
Shot Credit: J-10C via PL-15
Condition: Held at 170 Military hospital, Akhnoor in stable condition.

4: Rafale EH
Location: Bhatinda
Pilot: W/C Arun Panwar
Service No: 30217
Shot Credit: J-10C via PL-15
Condition: Was held at 174 Military Hospital, Bhatinda, shifted to Chandimandir Command Hospital due to critical condition.

5: Rafale EH
Location: Punjab (North of bhatinda)
Pilot: W/C Manish
Service No: 27976
Shot Credit: J-10C via PL-15
Condition: Held at Chandimandir Command Hospital in stable condition.

6: Rafale EH
Pilot: S/L Sunil
Service No: 32091
Shot Credit: J-10C via PL-15
Condition: Held at 92 Base Hospital, Srinagar in stable condition.

one identity confirmed.

Mirage pilot was WC Parvathi Omanakuttan and base hospital confirmed is out of critical condiiton now.

 

[hussain0216]

The question is how will a further exchange benefit India? Unless they have found a way to neutralise the PAF, it will be just a trade of missiles with Pakistan potentially going as far as New Delhi in the next round. The PL15E is still relevant, capable and to which India has no answer.

I can't see Russia having much of anything that they can rush to India's aid interms of supplies, and the same applies to Israel.

Additionally, at this point, you would have to assume that PAF has made procurements to address short range bases defence issues already with close-in weapon system like the CS/SS2A. Platforms like the CS/SSA ( or the predecessor like the LuDun-2000 ) which are CIWS based systems, are not very expensive at all compared to SAM systems, so can be purchased in bulk like the SH-15s were without much in the way of theatrics as far as procurements processes go.

Also, how many Brahmos does India have left given that a large portion were destroyed in their storage sheds.

India may well want another round, and then try to manage the optics to create a narrative of success, but Pakistan would be aware of that and will look to deny Modi that goal entirely. Modi cannot be seen to win in an exchange with Pakistan otherwise he will do it all the time. Modi may need another further reminder that he wont forget this time. So, Pakistan's response will need to be more public, and more undeniable to the people of India, who must see the path Modi is leading them all on in pursuit of votes for Bihar.

If another exchange happens, then New Delhi must be on the target list. Rawalpindi was hit in the first round, and that was not answered in kind at all.

I do hope and pray that PAF loses its habit of "restraint" and "calibrated" actions and just cleans the skies fully without due regard for any IAF platform in the air at the time from jets to AEW&C to refuellers. India did not learn the first time, so the lesson must be severe if it comes to that.

I agree, what you are saying Is logical

But it's the kind of situation where a incident can lead to conflict where logic goes out the window

So Kashmiri fighters killing a bunch of Indian soldiers.
A misunderstanding at the LOC
Etc etc

Under normal circumstances, it would take India about another 5 years to work out how to shield the IAF and the best way forward

But we need to be smart, prepare and be ready

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Not every Indian supports the idea of starving 250 million people of fresh water. That would be catastrophic—morally, regionally, and environmentally. I count myself among those who believe that long-term peace and sustainability must prevail over punitive instincts.


However, our neighbors in Pakistan must also understand: these developments around water and infrastructure aren't spontaneous—they're deliberate and strategic. India has begun laying the groundwork. The question is: will the Pakistani establishment recognize this shift before it's too late, or will it fall into the "boiling frog" syndrome—acting only when the damage is irreversible?


Let’s also acknowledge the changing balance of power through an economic lens.

• In 2016, when India conducted the surgical strikes, our GDP stood at $2.16 trillion. Pakistan's GDP was $313 billion.
• In 2019, during the Balakot air strikes, India's GDP had grown to $2.9 trillion, while Pakistan’s was $320 billion.
• Now, in 2025, following Operation SINDOOR, India's GDP is at $4.19 trillion. Pakistan’s stands at approximately $380 billion.

The takeaway is clear: with each crisis, India returns to the table stronger—economically and militarily. It can afford the risks of escalation and strategic signaling. The question Pakistan must ask itself is—can it match that trajectory? Can it bear the costs of continued brinkmanship?

Threat is what threat does!... I know why... so save me the tales.
And keep those GDP figures... that's another one coming for India... but that is for another day.

Now water, India has been depleting it's water table for years now... thing in coming years are going to be dire! There are a billion mouths, that if not for the state cannot feed themselves. The bounty and the scarcity of the Indus watershed are intertwined with geographical Pakistan. Too much and it will flood, too little and be barren. It is tale of a civilization. What India seeks is the bounty of these rivers, divert for its own benefit. But the geographical reality that is Pakistan will remain... with derth or abundance...

India is in a stalemate, and for people who say that it can sustain a conflict longer than Pakistan live in a fools paradise... there are masses of internal migrant workers, little to no safety nets and when push comes to shove will make a run for their shacks. The whole state faces an imminent collapse ... that is of course not in the interest of anyone... so the jingoism just feeds those with empty stomachs with hot air. The ten cent nazi is playing with things he cannot control, nor sway.
Pakistan will get its water and knows what India is after...

 

[Be dazzled]

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