Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

We diplomatically absolutely lost kargil though. Joint Services improved alot since then in 1999 musharraf kept air force and navy on the dark about that offensive
 
NationalistPKDude132 said:
Their main objective is to take Pakistan Azaad Kashmir but idk why Gilgit baltistan is even considered as Pakistan Azaad Kashmir when they consider themselves as Pakistanis
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I am confident, given a choice, India would rather take the sparsely populated Gilgit Baltistan over the Pakistani part of Kashmir (Azaad Kashmir): Taking G-B cuts off Pakistan from China and provides India access to Central Asia, while A-K is a narrow land with relatively larger and hostile population against India.
 
Meengla said:
I am confident, given a choice, India would rather take the sparsely populated Gilgit Baltistan over the Pakistani part of Kashmir (Azaad Kashmir): Taking G-B cuts off Pakistan from China and provides India access to Central Asia, while A-K is a narrow land with relatively larger and hostile population against India.
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The people of Gilgit hate india. India would absolutely not be able to hold GB i think. Even people of GB wanna be a province in Pakistan. In 1947 aswell they declared allegience with Pakistan
 
Vox Non Dei said:
With all due respect, local Kashmiri in J&K is REALLY pissed right now at Pakistan.

DW reporters covered the conflict while being present in Poonch during the entire 4 days of conflict.

There is a massive arrest and combing of OGWs ongoing in Kashmir and all over India too, all assisted by locals in Kashmir. For them Pakistan is destroying their income due to lack tourism (they had seen massive increase in income for the first time in decades) and Pakistan's attacks are damaging their homes and killing their kids and themselves. So forger "resistance" and without OGWs, sustained insurgency is very hard.

You can have your opinion but this conflict has certainly not endeared Pakistan to Kashmiris in J&K.


None of them apply to Kashmir because of massive entrenchment and presence of Army / LEA in Kashmir. Not to mention locals are really pissed this time around with Pakistan.

Lastly, what you are describing is what happened during 90s. And it failed to achieve any of the goals you wanted.

Not to mention, @Mangeela was talking about military takeover of Kashmir by Militia, which is a very different case.
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Poonch was an Irresponsible act by our Army, We shouldve been more careful in that sector. What a tragedy man
 
Vox Non Dei said:
With all due respect, local Kashmiri in J&K is REALLY pissed right now at Pakistan.

DW reporters covered the conflict while being present in Poonch during the entire 4 days of conflict.

There is a massive arrest and combing of OGWs ongoing in Kashmir and all over India too, all assisted by locals in Kashmir. For them Pakistan is destroying their income due to lack tourism (they had seen massive increase in income for the first time in decades) and Pakistan's attacks are damaging their homes and killing their kids and themselves. So forger "resistance" and without OGWs, sustained insurgency is very hard.

You can have your opinion but this conflict has certainly not endeared Pakistan to Kashmiris in J&K.


None of them apply to Kashmir because of massive entrenchment and presence of Army / LEA in Kashmir. Not to mention locals are really pissed this time around with Pakistan.

Lastly, what you are describing is what happened during 90s. And it failed to achieve any of the goals you wanted.

Not to mention, @Mangeela was talking about military takeover of Kashmir by Militia, which is a very different case.
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Kashmiri want to be free, they hate India and Hindus as much as we do, more even

They can see what hindutva is doing
 
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Meengla said:
And also a signal to those who may be planning to setup iPhone factories, BPO initiatives, manufacturing, off shoring to India at the expense of China. 'Capital' is extremely risk averse. It is like water which would always find the shortest, easiest path, which would be a downhill path, thanks to gravity and the gravity of the Capital is stability and security for profit.
Indian planners in last 10 years under Modi, while fantasizing about some civilizational revival of a Hindu era, didn't really realize they were living in a glass house and throwing stones to some very powerful neighbors. I can't think of any dumber foreign policy in modern history by a major nation than India's under Modi in last 10 years. This policy has veritably undone the hard work by various Indian govts of the previous half century.
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Even the Indian raw agents like Sushant are starting to say this. This is the clip, from his own mouth that can be shared globally to show that India is not safe for business; it’s a war zone of India’s own choosing.

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Fatman17 said:
Now you be careful. No inappropriate language please
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Fatman they are calling us on national T.V Na-Pak or what not and this is Pakistani forum and we are at war so be humble or gentle sorry we will show that heart to them.
 
NationalistPKDude132 said:
We diplomatically absolutely lost kargil though. Joint Services improved alot since then in 1999 musharraf kept air force and navy on the dark about that offensive
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One of the participant, a retired soldier is a security guard at our office.
He got a bullet in his chest, roughly a single inch from his heart.
He while talking about this war told me that we had taken control of the main pipeline conveying water to the indian soldiers in the frozen land.
They could have collapsed in just a few days even if we don't fire a single bullet on them.
But then our govt ordered us to retreat.
Pak Army often don't cares about civilian govt orders regarding military operations if they are placed behind the scenes. But if the govt announced these orders publicly, army is bothered to accept them to showcase civilian supremacy rule.
When Pakistan occupied important mountain peaks, Indian soldiers were playing like sitting ducks.
And when Pak army took control of the pipeline, within 1.5 hours govt of Pakistan ordered to retreat at once.
While Pakistan army was on retreat, Indian army reaching peaks started firing and artillery strikes on Pakistani soldiers, causing great chaos.
Our soldiers even can't get a chance due to their position in the deeps and we lost a few hundred soldiers thus, and many including this security guard were injured.
Doctors didn't let this soldier drink water for 14 days at least.
 
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