Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[ghazi52]

 

[Baibers_1260]

How the hell is that a propaganda when EVEN Pakistani military is agreeing to that they do not have any female rafale pilot in captivity? I am sorry to say but you are delusional here. Why will Pakistan and India agree to a common propaganda?

Heck, most reports are telling that neither side's planes crossed into other for an attack to avoid a pilot capture.

@Vkdindian1 @harpy1
On the propaganda front we loose.
We are no match in lies to your General G.D, Bakshi and Arnab Goswami.
We can't even scream as loud as Anjana Om Kashyap.

Also we can't use profanity the way the spokespersons of the ruling and opposition parties in India

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If people have difficulty understanding the Hindi , ask and I will translate or rewrite the exchange on the Urdu script with the profanity censored.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Khanivore]

Equation has changed. We aren’t realizing that they attempted to enter in our airspace in 2019. This time, they attacked almost 4 to 5 different places, some deep In pakistan.

You can see that they are climbing the escalation ladder. I accept that both times they attacked after an incident in Kashmir. It’s not necessary for them to wait for another incident in Kashmir because they are climbing the escalation ladder and not us.

Our pl-15 launch was in retaliation but showed willingness that we can also go deep to hit their jets etc.

Next level of escalation ladder is attacking pakistan without any reason because they already have terrorism excuse and we don’t have similiar excuse like Kashmir is integral part of pakistan etc. failure of Pakistani foreign policy caused lots of damage to pakistan.

I am sure next conflict will be bigger than this 4 day war. India will attack pak army and airforce without any reason. For face saving, they might target a religious place first.

There are so many things that needs to be corrected. Aggressive posture of india is actually a very threatening posture.

India’s strategic behaviour is clearly shifting from reactive to preemptive, and that’s a serious escalation trend Pakistan can’t ignore. From a one-off strike in 2019 to now targeting multiple sites deep inside Pakistan in 2025, the pattern shows increasing boldness, not just retaliation.

The use of PL-15 was a solid demonstration, but messaging alone isn’t enough. Pakistan needs to move from reaction to deterrence through posture - that means standing up credible threats before the next provocation, not after. India already has its "terrorism" narrative card on standby. Pakistan lacks a similarly recognised justification, and that's a serious foreign policy vacuum that needs urgent fixing.

Next time, India may not wait for a trigger. And you're right — they could target something symbolic to break will before they go after hard military assets. The longer Pakistan relies on restraint without redefining red lines, the more space Pakistan will give them to climb the escalation ladder unchallenged.

It’s time to recalibrate the doctrine, diplomacy, and deterrence posture — all three. Urgently.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[gamaji]

Has the IAF abandoned Sri Nagar airbase? Also, did Pak air chief too flew a sortie into India?

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[ghazi52]

 

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[TopGun786]

So you rate your standard of democracy with Pakistan which is 1/7th your size?
How about China as a standard which has no democracy as you define it but allows people to eat what they want, dress as they like, and perform an individual worship per their beliefs.
No one is lynched in China or Pakistan for eating beef or not shouting Jai Shree Ram, Pakistani TV crews don't barge into Hindu temples and homes and ask them to shout Anti-Indian slogans. Hindus in Pakistan are not asked to stomp on the Saudi Arabian flag with the Koranic inscription on it.

How long Modi will remain. I have news for you. A VERY long time , at least another decade, He will likely be replaced by Yogi Adityanath.
Curious, why you apparently don't like your Prime Minister.?

@Vkdindian1
This.....
Please answer above 110% true and valid points.
Dont write essay as usual and don't play mental gymnastics as you always do.
Just answer straight to the point

 

[Arsalan45]

India’s strategic behaviour is clearly shifting from reactive to preemptive, and that’s a serious escalation trend Pakistan can’t ignore. From a one-off strike in 2019 to now targeting multiple sites deep inside Pakistan in 2025, the pattern shows increasing boldness, not just retaliation.

The use of PL-15 was a solid demonstration, but messaging alone isn’t enough. Pakistan needs to move from reaction to deterrence through posture - that means standing up credible threats before the next provocation, not after. India already has its "terrorism" narrative card on standby. Pakistan lacks a similarly recognised justification, and that's a serious foreign policy vacuum that needs urgent fixing.

Next time, India may not wait for a trigger. And you're right — they could target something symbolic to break will before they go after hard military assets. The longer Pakistan relies on restraint without redefining red lines, the more space Pakistan will give them to climb the escalation ladder unchallenged.

It’s time to recalibrate the doctrine, diplomacy, and deterrence posture — all three. Urgently.

There are strategies to control Indian escalation but we aren’t ready to accept them as new normal. Remember nobody will fight this war for us. World today is busy in Ukraine and Iran and they don’t care. This is exactly what india did but Uncle Sam still played a role in ceasefire that caused anger in New Delhi. Problem is their calculations were wrong.

My point is simple. Escalation ladder will go up further. They have already hinted that navy will be involved in the future conflict which means karachi or blockade of pakistan etc.

This will continue to go up until one final war where Indians realize that this is their chance etc.

Our failed policies like waiting for UN to do something on Kashmir etc. I mean Palestine is almost erased in front of UN. Thing is aggressor wins. Kargil was aggressive strategy to degrade Indian mindset. India remained in this degraded mindset until modi took charge.

Under modi, they changed the whole game. Abrogation, indus water, attack on pakistan, what’s next?

Obviously one final war will be cold start doctrine and using numbers to gain advantage on different sectors. Their aim is to capture our Kashmir because of their obsession with wakhan corridor.

If we change our policy, we might see good results and we will have a solid excuse for another kargil. Declare Kashmir as integral part of pak and china. Ask india to vacate their side of Kashmir and become aggressive like after every bla attack, series of aggressive statements etc.

China knows what’s going on. Question is whether pakistan wants to take help of china or not.

Kashmir is vital for china as well as its their gateway to Pakistan and to coastal areas . I believe they will interfere next time if an offer has been made like making settlement on Kashmir before attacking Indian Kashmir. Half of Indian Kashmir to china, half to us. Countries love land.

Kashmir as our integral part will give us excuse to attack india first. Excuses like Bjp training cells and most importantly, declaring Bjp as terrorist organization so that we can target anything in india without even answering Americans.

Policy change needs courage. India showed courage. Pakistan is not showing courage on diplomatic front.