Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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Meengla
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Pakistan and India are full of 'Singhs', 'Khans', 'Shahs', 'Chaudhrahies'...
frontline360news
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Indian political and defense analysts must move beyond the narratives of the 1965 and 1971 wars and recognize the evolving geopolitical realities. The battlefield has changed, and so have the alliances. China’s unwavering support for Pakistan, particularly through advanced military technology and weapons systems, has significantly altered the regional balance.
In recent conflicts, India has suffered substantial losses, including fighter jets and drones, highlighting vulnerabilities in its defense strategy. The sooner India acknowledges this shift, the sooner it can prepare for the growing two-front challenge posed by Pakistan and China. As Pravin Sawhney has pointed out, India is no longer facing just Pakistan, it is confronting a Pakistan-China military partnership, which is becoming increasingly integrated.
China’s involvement is not limited to supplying weapons; it extends to joint military exercises, intelligence sharing, and strategic coordination. The presence of Chinese-origin fighter jets, PL-15 missiles, and advanced air defense systems in Pakistan’s arsenal underscores the depth of this partnership.
If India continues to rely on outdated strategies and historical conflicts, it risks being outmaneuvered in future engagements. A proactive approach, modernizing its military, strengthening alliances, and reassessing its defense posture—is essential to counter the growing threat from both Pakistan and China
In recent conflicts, India has suffered substantial losses, including fighter jets and drones, highlighting vulnerabilities in its defense strategy. The sooner India acknowledges this shift, the sooner it can prepare for the growing two-front challenge posed by Pakistan and China. As Pravin Sawhney has pointed out, India is no longer facing just Pakistan, it is confronting a Pakistan-China military partnership, which is becoming increasingly integrated.
China’s involvement is not limited to supplying weapons; it extends to joint military exercises, intelligence sharing, and strategic coordination. The presence of Chinese-origin fighter jets, PL-15 missiles, and advanced air defense systems in Pakistan’s arsenal underscores the depth of this partnership.
If India continues to rely on outdated strategies and historical conflicts, it risks being outmaneuvered in future engagements. A proactive approach, modernizing its military, strengthening alliances, and reassessing its defense posture—is essential to counter the growing threat from both Pakistan and China
falcon34
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@Panzerkiel your thoughts on this.
Panzerkiel
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Good thoughts, but it all depends on which side of the table you are sitting....and how close you are to the head chair.
Vkdindian1
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In 2019, apparently the Indian strike wasn’t successful as the satellite evidence was lacking and the weapons used didn’t give any data feedback to provide evidence for the strike being successful.
Then came PAF with slick videos of getting a lock on Indian targets and then breaking the lock to make the bomb fall a little away to show the capability without causing any damage. Intent - Not to escalate but to show that capability exists.
Come to 2025.
7th May - India launched weapons to destroy few targets. Adequate proof was available to show its success.
PAF in turn shot down few fighters and the PAF AVM gave a slick presentation with all the data to prove his claim.
Few days later there was also a claim of a successful strike on S400 using CM400 missile. This time however, there was no proof provided about the success of this attack.
AVM kept silent about it most likely due to obvious reasons.
Fanboys, however came down in full force to declare it a success.
Let’s assume that the strike was a success.
If it was a success, why weren’t there any strikes done like last time in 2019? PAF did not launch any attack at all against any IAF bases.
Pathankot, Bathinda, Jaisalmer and many other bases are located within 100 Kms from the IB.
What stopped PAF from attacking these bases with standoff weapons? Considering that S400 strike was a success and the location of remaining S400 was known, PAF should have launched these attacks freely. But it didn’t.
The fact is that, PAF was severely restricted in carrying out its operations unlike what has been claimed.
Most people are wary of discussing this aspect.
Then came PAF with slick videos of getting a lock on Indian targets and then breaking the lock to make the bomb fall a little away to show the capability without causing any damage. Intent - Not to escalate but to show that capability exists.
Come to 2025.
7th May - India launched weapons to destroy few targets. Adequate proof was available to show its success.
PAF in turn shot down few fighters and the PAF AVM gave a slick presentation with all the data to prove his claim.
Few days later there was also a claim of a successful strike on S400 using CM400 missile. This time however, there was no proof provided about the success of this attack.
AVM kept silent about it most likely due to obvious reasons.
Fanboys, however came down in full force to declare it a success.
Let’s assume that the strike was a success.
If it was a success, why weren’t there any strikes done like last time in 2019? PAF did not launch any attack at all against any IAF bases.
Pathankot, Bathinda, Jaisalmer and many other bases are located within 100 Kms from the IB.
What stopped PAF from attacking these bases with standoff weapons? Considering that S400 strike was a success and the location of remaining S400 was known, PAF should have launched these attacks freely. But it didn’t.
The fact is that, PAF was severely restricted in carrying out its operations unlike what has been claimed.
Most people are wary of discussing this aspect.
Master Chief
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It harms the script of a female pilot bombing us misogynistic heathens back into our caves for daring to spill sindoor. Bollywood scriptwriters have been deployed to counteract this damage.
falcon34
Registered Member
This Indian arrogance is the problem, they lost 6 jets and got multiple pilots killed, bases and storage sites smoked, their airspace was violated by PAF on 10 X accs of Indian journalists still have those posts, Pak jets over sirinagar etc.
Yet these delusional beasts haven't learned anything, that is why PAF should have been given a free hand, RSS headquarters in Nagpur should have been hit and RSS establishments in Pune, Gujrat, Bihar, UP and elsewhere in India should have been our targets once the foolish j&&ts understand that our hand can reach them too only than will these ganges biomass be dealt accordingly.
Master Chief
Trusted Member
They fail, as a nation overall, to learn in the usual evidence-based way (cause and effect) because of apparent cognitive deficiencies among the unwashed masses. These hordes have been dalitised in terms of their opinionation, cognisance, and rationality.
We can observe this in their constant denial of simple visual evidences and the sheer diabolical nature of their attempts to mitigate, divert, and obfuscate losses, extending all the way as far as urban class, mainstream English language press.
The educated urban classes themselves were writing and reading about "decoys being shot down" and proudly echoing this clickbait narrative right up until the moment General Chauhan forced them to see sense and cold hard logic. After the Chauhan incident, they scrambled to produce a new narrative, which fell anywhere along the "Chauhan misspoke and is a traitor" to "we only have 1 absolutely ultra confirmed crash which anyway wasn't a shoot down but was a hard landing with subsequent repairs" spectrum of incredulity.
The bigger problem for India isn't the gullible nature of the illiterate, irrational and poorly cognitive "vote bank" that is there to blindly cast their vote and keep sanghee loons in power, but it is actually that small minority of genuinely rational individuals who gladly sustain the ignorance within their nation for their own motives. These self-appointed intellectual elites are ensuring their own ultimate destruction. To be fair to them though, many of this dwindling group have already left India.
hydrabadi_arab
Trusted Member
Month have passed since operation Sindoor, Shivangi is no where to be seen. I think either dead or critically injured.
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