AZADPAKISTAN2009
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The starting point for this thread should be "Water Blocking" and act of war
Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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Jango007
Registered Member
Here we go....This is as close as we will get to UK officially providing the information about the war....ENJOY....
"The first is that during the engagements, Pakistani forces fired a significant number of PL-15 air-to-air missiles from either J-10CE and/or potentially JF-17 fighters, as well as a number of HQ-9 long range surface-to-air missiles.
The second is that the Indian Air Force suffered several fighter losses, including one Dassault Rafale, one Mig-29 and likely a Su-30MKI among one or two additional losses for which no definitive wreckage has been seen in open source.
Third, the Indian Air Force was consistently able to penetrate Pakistani air defences with air-launched standoff munitions to strike a range of terrorist-linked and military sites, despite heavy and well-coordinated defences.
Fourth, the assistance provided by China to Pakistani forces in terms of both technical equipment provision and also intelligence and C2 support enabled the Pakistani forces to perform significantly better against the Indian Air Force than the latter had anticipated.
The specific downing of a relatively newly delivered Rafale has, naturally, led many Pakistani and Chinese sources to proclaim a great victory for Chinese fighter aircraft and missile technology over French (and potentially wider Western) equivalents. Dassault’s share price has fallen significantly since the engagements, while that of Chengdu – the manufacturer of the J-10CE – has risen."
www.rusi.org
"The first is that during the engagements, Pakistani forces fired a significant number of PL-15 air-to-air missiles from either J-10CE and/or potentially JF-17 fighters, as well as a number of HQ-9 long range surface-to-air missiles.
The second is that the Indian Air Force suffered several fighter losses, including one Dassault Rafale, one Mig-29 and likely a Su-30MKI among one or two additional losses for which no definitive wreckage has been seen in open source.
Third, the Indian Air Force was consistently able to penetrate Pakistani air defences with air-launched standoff munitions to strike a range of terrorist-linked and military sites, despite heavy and well-coordinated defences.
Fourth, the assistance provided by China to Pakistani forces in terms of both technical equipment provision and also intelligence and C2 support enabled the Pakistani forces to perform significantly better against the Indian Air Force than the latter had anticipated.
The specific downing of a relatively newly delivered Rafale has, naturally, led many Pakistani and Chinese sources to proclaim a great victory for Chinese fighter aircraft and missile technology over French (and potentially wider Western) equivalents. Dassault’s share price has fallen significantly since the engagements, while that of Chengdu – the manufacturer of the J-10CE – has risen."
Key Questions about the India-Pakistan Aerial Clashes
There is a risk of drawing the wrong conclusions about Chinese and Western air capabilities from the recent clashes if Indian fighter losses are looked at without close examination of the wider operational picture.
www.rusi.org
Jango007
Registered Member
Another interesting article:
The 100-hour War: India Versus Pakistan
China’s PL-15E long-range air-to-air missile, integrated with Chinese tactical data links, gave the Pakistan Air Force a key advantage on the first day of the strikes.
thediplomat.com
AZADPAKISTAN2009
Elite Member
This was quite detailed account of issues in India with Minorities
Abdul q
Registered Member
I have seen some twitter posts by the hindutvas to visit the people’s land who look like chinese to conquer and rape them….. it was all over the twitter… i think they are talking about assam/ arunachal ppl
PK781
Trusted Member
Jango Bhai, don't post such articles...Here we go....This is as close as we will get to UK officially providing the information about the war....ENJOY....
"The first is that during the engagements, Pakistani forces fired a significant number of PL-15 air-to-air missiles from either J-10CE and/or potentially JF-17 fighters, as well as a number of HQ-9 long range surface-to-air missiles.
The second is that the Indian Air Force suffered several fighter losses, including one Dassault Rafale, one Mig-29 and likely a Su-30MKI among one or two additional losses for which no definitive wreckage has been seen in open source.
Third, the Indian Air Force was consistently able to penetrate Pakistani air defences with air-launched standoff munitions to strike a range of terrorist-linked and military sites, despite heavy and well-coordinated defences.
Fourth, the assistance provided by China to Pakistani forces in terms of both technical equipment provision and also intelligence and C2 support enabled the Pakistani forces to perform significantly better against the Indian Air Force than the latter had anticipated.
The specific downing of a relatively newly delivered Rafale has, naturally, led many Pakistani and Chinese sources to proclaim a great victory for Chinese fighter aircraft and missile technology over French (and potentially wider Western) equivalents. Dassault’s share price has fallen significantly since the engagements, while that of Chengdu – the manufacturer of the J-10CE – has risen."
Key Questions about the India-Pakistan Aerial Clashes
There is a risk of drawing the wrong conclusions about Chinese and Western air capabilities from the recent clashes if Indian fighter losses are looked at without close examination of the wider operational picture.
"terrorist-linked" sites ?? WTF is the UK writing these days ?
Article clearly states the obvious that they didn't like their proxy india getting beat up, and they come out with this (without evidence). It shows that the UK and its media has been heavily infested with indians now, seems they have taken over the uk television and media. So now they also openly label our soil as "terrorist-linked and military".
It's the same shit here in Canada where pretty much every media house/channel has been filled now with indians (or indian canadians) who obviously will always be biased and no longer neutral. Hence canadian media also is pretty much garbage as the indians take over from the whites. Real Journalism is dead already. Even the Canadian media didn't start reporting on the conflict until their baby had secured the cease-fire so they could sugarcoat it and give them a soft image.
If they're going to label us like that, we don't need their validations or articles. They should go prepare for upcoming Russia's war revenge perhaps. See how that goes for them as Russia will label them the same and then offer hard treatment that will forever change their lavish lives.
Abdul q
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Even their Universal park has a jet crash attraction.
What a circus
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let others look at it themselves.. shhhh
PK781
Trusted Member
Even their Universal park has a jet crash attraction.
What a circus
it will earn more attraction if the crashing jet is a 'rafale'
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Fatman17
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Here is the problem with the west (read USA and NATO ). They cannot fathom or digest the fact that one of their key assets Rafale was shot down by Chinese made fighters of so called "inferior quality ".Here we go....This is as close as we will get to UK officially providing the information about the war....ENJOY....
"The first is that during the engagements, Pakistani forces fired a significant number of PL-15 air-to-air missiles from either J-10CE and/or potentially JF-17 fighters, as well as a number of HQ-9 long range surface-to-air missiles.
The second is that the Indian Air Force suffered several fighter losses, including one Dassault Rafale, one Mig-29 and likely a Su-30MKI among one or two additional losses for which no definitive wreckage has been seen in open source.
Third, the Indian Air Force was consistently able to penetrate Pakistani air defences with air-launched standoff munitions to strike a range of terrorist-linked and military sites, despite heavy and well-coordinated defences.
Fourth, the assistance provided by China to Pakistani forces in terms of both technical equipment provision and also intelligence and C2 support enabled the Pakistani forces to perform significantly better against the Indian Air Force than the latter had anticipated.
The specific downing of a relatively newly delivered Rafale has, naturally, led many Pakistani and Chinese sources to proclaim a great victory for Chinese fighter aircraft and missile technology over French (and potentially wider Western) equivalents. Dassault’s share price has fallen significantly since the engagements, while that of Chengdu – the manufacturer of the J-10CE – has risen."
Key Questions about the India-Pakistan Aerial Clashes
There is a risk of drawing the wrong conclusions about Chinese and Western air capabilities from the recent clashes if Indian fighter losses are looked at without close examination of the wider operational picture.
Maarkhoor
Snake Eater
I think collectively since Indian BVR lack in range so no worries from our side.
Abdul q
Registered Member
That’s too many missiles for six jets… i highly doubt it…
Maarkhoor
Snake Eater
India fired more in a desperate attempt since they are lacking in range. As per credible source we are getting 30 jets before or on August with PL-17 range of 400 Kms.
Abdul q
Registered Member
So no debris found by our side of any missile fired by those terrorists? How come !!
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