Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Nearly all the Sikhs I know in Canada are pro-India and anti-Muslim. Even if they are Pro-Khalistan they are still anti-Muslim.
they are always finding an opportunity to berate a muslim.
But, TBH, there are good and bad people every where!
over all, hatred for muslims is undeniable, we are tagged ter***ts!
 
Why the hell do we need to ‘cope’?wasn’t it India that got humiliated losing 6 of its top of the line jets against none? Including ‘worlds best’ Ra-fail? Then admits to grounding its 🤡AF for 2 whole days to sort it’s ‘tactics’ out in The middle of a 4 day war?🙈😂And because it’s overhyped 🤡AF failed at the first hurdle India was then forced to resort to drones and BrahMos in desperate effort to get some level of face saving?

Right. Absolutely, Pakistan doesn't need to 'cope'. Pakistan is definitely ahead and it was not just the downing of the Indian fighter jets, although that has caused a significant symbolic and geopolitical shift on its own already, but also Indian soldiers were killed across the LOC.
India's shooting multiple BrahMos to Pakistan, in contrast, wasn't much of an achievement: Using top class missiles which were built by collaboration with Russia and fired into a country which has severe strategic depth issue, was not so impressive and didn't impress anyone but the Indians. Any other country in place of Pakistan would have suffered some losses given the limitations.
Next time, India will face a large Pakistani offensive missile battery. They don't have to be hypersonic as Pakistan's budget constraints are too much. But You know, 'Quantity can be Quality'.
 
i am convinced the next Indian attack on Pakistan will be majority naval in nature. They will fire naval BrahMos and try to take out Pakistani naval assets and also attack Karachi and Bin Qasim. Once Pakistani naval assets are neutralized, a lot of options open up for India including blockading merchant marine and air traffic to Pakistan, in cooperation with the GCC. They will also count on an increasingly desperate Pakistan then trying to pressure India via risky operations by its Air Force/Army.

Pakistan is finally building up its Navy but it will be years before its more than the token force it is today. That gives India a window of two to three years at most.

Its why I understand why Pakistan is getting better air defense equipment from China to counter BrahMos but I dont understand about the J35. I would prefer Pakistan focus on AD and naval capabilities.
You don't deter Brahmos with AD alone. You need punch. A way to impose heavy cost on India if they decide to use Brahmos again. So, in order to achieve that Pakistan need to demonstrate own supersonic cruise missile capable of being launched from land, air and sea. YJ-12 can be a good start or a system based on it.
 
You don't deter Brahmos with AD alone. You need punch. A way to impose heavy cost on India if they decide to use Brahmos again. So, in order to achieve that Pakistan need to demonstrate own supersonic cruise missile capable of being launched from land, air and sea. YJ-12 can be a good start or a system based on it.

Right.
If Iranian and Houthi missiles managed to land in Israel after traveling such a long distance while passing through Israeli+NATO (and sometimes Arab) air defense systems then stopping India's BrahMos from causing major destruction in Pakistan will be very difficult, if not impossible.
Pakistan needs a 'punch' as you said. Powerful Deterrence.
 
Wait for few days ,their claims of 6 aircraft’s will increase significantly once Indian technical proof of PAF losses in air will be out.

Echo chamber will deny everything as usual.
Too much Goswami is bad for ghr brain. Actually any Goswami is bad .
BTW where is Tejas? Any chance of it flying in combat at some stage?
 

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