Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

No, just no.

India's air defenses were bad to say the least. All the footage that came out of it were debunked.

The fact is that more and more evidence is coming to light that Pakistan hit a ton of Indian bases, and that India's air defenses (while having some minor successes) were largely a failure.
Is that so? Who is relying on any footage that was debunked?
Is that how battle damage assessment works? Based on video footage made by kids and peddled by fanboys/bhakts?

This “more and more” evidence is pure BS. Please talk when something credible comes out.
Ton of Indian bases were hit with no damage at all? I guess these weapons fired, were filled with roses as they didn’t cause any damage that could be seen by satellites and presented as such.

Sorry state when a Think Tank starts making arguments as you are doing.
 
Multi domain operation!!!

Israel's air campaign is a lot bigger than previously thought.
So this was not an all-stealth air operation, it was an integrated air formation consisting of the entire spectrum of capabilities within the Israeli air force.
IF TRUE, then we might've just seen the effective suppression of the entire Iranian air defenses, both soft kill and hard kill.
Coupled this with Netanyahu's threat of further strikes, tensions will continue to escalate.
Iran has limited ways to effectively respond, their missile stockpile and drone swarms isn't numerous enough to saturate Israel's air defense. Even if they do, the damage would not be on the same level they've been dealt with.


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Multi domain operation!!!

Israel's air campaign is a lot bigger than previously thought.
So this was not an all-stealth air operation, it was an integrated air formation consisting of the entire spectrum of capabilities within the Israeli air force.
IF TRUE, then we might've just seen the effective suppression of the entire Iranian air defenses, both soft kill and hard kill.
Coupled this with Netanyahu's threat of further strikes, tensions will continue to escalate.
Iran has limited ways to effectively respond, their missile stockpile and drone swarms isn't numerous enough to saturate Israel's air defense. Even if they do, the damage would not be on the same level they've been dealt with.


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We can and should learn a lot here, looks like stealth was used in conjunction with 4th gen, but for me the asimmetrical use of special forces to take out strategic assets was a case of the Israelis using Iranian tactics against them. Brilliant. I actually said this was a possibility for Pakistani SF prior to use striking India back. In fact it should be easier for us.

Indian S-400 are near our border, Iranian AD was over 1,000 miles away.
 
Easy, every right wing nut job tweet does not policy make.

US, Israel, India had 20 years to do that massive troops and air bases next door. Pakistan did nit budge. We have 1.2 million armed jeets next door who tried to even just lob a few bombs and now their domestically and diplomatically in meltdown. We have around 200 nukes.
I anything right now, Iranian Balochistan should be weary of becoming part of Pakistan soon
Its pretty much an open secret that MEMRI is a Mossad run organization. They are well known for their disinformation campaigns.

Unlike India, Israel realizes you can't just attack, because you end up looking like fools.

You build up a narrative, and consent for potential actions, as well as build up diplomatic pressure to isolate the target country.

That's what happened to Iraq, and that's what happened to Iran.

They'll try to do the same with Pakistan.

They'll likely fail as Pakistan has China, which is a bigger deterrent than even nukes, but they'll try none the less.

Pakistan needs to get its shit together, fix it's economy and build it to be resilient. It needs to rapidly fix its air defense capabilities, and upgrade irs air force with the J-35s, so as to be able to counter a potential threat from the F-35.

It can no longer afford to sit idly by when it's threatened on its eastern border, as well as it's western air border.
 
Is that so? Who is relying on any footage that was debunked?
Is that how battle damage assessment works? Based on video footage made by kids and peddled by fanboys/bhakts?

This “more and more” evidence is pure BS. Please talk when something credible comes out.
Ton of Indian bases were hit with no damage at all? I guess these weapons fired, were filled with roses as they didn’t cause any damage that could be seen by satellites and presented as such.

Sorry state when a Think Tank starts making arguments as you are doing.
Sat imaging shows that Indian bases were hit, which include runways.

This isn't me saying this, but rather outside observers.

And quite frankly, the 4 day war showed that India's narrative simply cannot be trusted.
 
Sat imaging shows that Indian bases were hit, which include runways.

This isn't me saying this, but rather outside observers.

And quite frankly, the 4 day war showed that India's narrative simply cannot be trusted.
I too don’t trust anyone.

Indian, Pakistani or your word.

I believe in credible proof, not talks in thin air or so called “outside observers” who have presented their findings not seen by anyone.
Hopefully, that convenient time to present proof would arrive soon.
 
Its pretty much an open secret that MEMRI is a Mossad run organization. They are well known for their disinformation campaigns.

Unlike India, Israel realizes you can't just attack, because you end up looking like fools.

You build up a narrative, and consent for potential actions, as well as build up diplomatic pressure to isolate the target country.

That's what happened to Iraq, and that's what happened to Iran.

They'll try to do the same with Pakistan.

They'll likely fail as Pakistan has China, which is a bigger deterrent than even nukes, but they'll try none the less.

Pakistan needs to get its shit together, fix it's economy and build it to be resilient. It needs to rapidly fix its air defense capabilities, and upgrade irs air force with the J-35s, so as to be able to counter a potential threat from the F-35.

It can no longer afford to sit idly by when it's threatened on its eastern border, as well as it's western air border.

Sometimes I think we Pakistanis think we are more important then we are. We have not theatened Israel and Israel (bare selling over priced kit to India) has not opening theatened Pakistan. Not saying it is not possible, but they seem to have so much on their plate.

Obviously the nuclear element and distance complicates things greatly.
 
Proof? Jokers. Yoy have a few sat images of damaged hangers as the only proof of your military "success" the rest is basically you and 1.3 Billion jeets collectively shouting, typing and broadcasting about your "success"

We bring receipts, you bring tweets.

Clown.
It is better to keep quiet than write a meaningless paragraph filled with profanities.
Please refrain from answering to me if you have nothing to say other than using foul language. Asking as a courtesy.
 
It is better to keep quiet than write a meaningless paragraph filled with profanities.
Please refrain from answering to me if you have nothing to say other than using foul language. Asking as a courtesy.

Maybe stop with the utter BS then?
 
Sometimes I think we Pakistanis think we are more important then we are. We have not theatened Israel and Israel (bare selling over priced kit to India) has not opening theatened Pakistan. Not saying it is not possible, but they seem to have so much on their plate.

Obviously the nuclear element and distance complicates things greatly.
Pakistan is an Islamic Republic, and it has nukes.

That alone is a threat to Israel.

Iraq under Saddam wasn't an open threat to Israel either, yet we know what happened.
 
I too don’t trust anyone.

Indian, Pakistani or your word.

I believe in credible proof, not talks in thin air or so called “outside observers” who have presented their findings not seen by anyone.
Hopefully, that convenient time to present proof would arrive soon.

You don't believe your own army who admitted strikes on 26 sites on 10th May.

Indian MNA saying huge destruction in Adampur airbase while Air force was sleeping, he called them incompetent. S400 operator died and retired general Pravin indirectly confirming S400 was hit with CM400 hypersonic missile.

Dozens of videos.

But you will conventinenly wait for Maxar sat images knowing well India have blocked them.
 
Is that so? Who is relying on any footage that was debunked?
Is that how battle damage assessment works? Based on video footage made by kids and peddled by fanboys/bhakts?

This “more and more” evidence is pure BS. Please talk when something credible comes out.
Ton of Indian bases were hit with no damage at all? I guess these weapons fired, were filled with roses as they didn’t cause any damage that could be seen by satellites and presented as such.

Sorry state when a Think Tank starts making arguments as you are doing.
You yap so much for someone who has still to provide any evidence of uri surgical strikes and F16 downed in 2019. The day you will share the evidence of above two claims i will share the evidence of what was hit in India. Let's go!
 
You yap so much for someone who has still to provide any evidence of uri surgical strikes and F16 downed in 2019. The day you will share the evidence of above two claims i will share the evidence of what was hit in India. Let's go!

We got Uri 2025

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Thanks to Indian soldier who record it
 
You yap so much for someone who has still to provide any evidence of uri surgical strikes and F16 downed in 2019. The day you will share the evidence of above two claims i will share the evidence of what was hit in India. Let's go!

Please don’t bother to provide anything. You are no one in this game nor I am.
If any credible proof is there, it would come out through sources easily accessible to anyone keen to look for it.

I would find it myself if it is out there. You can keep your hand made videos to yourself.
 

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