Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Fatman17]

Not limited. Just the desired damage and the display of capability to strike where India wanted.
So, don’t count building to building numbers or the cost of damage. The reason has been explained in my previous post.


There should have been some pound of flesh to show. There was none.

The hypothesis that India’s attack at Nur Khan and other assets, were scaled down, to show just the intent, can’t be compared to Pak’s incapability to cause visible and verifiable damage to Indian installations. It is like a student who scores 90% marks and then claims that 95% was within sights, compared to a student who scores 30% but makes the same claim. Both are hypotheses but no way comparable to each other.

This is only applicable to attack on ground targets and not Air to Air engagements.

Both nations used weapons of their choice. Pakistan’s choice doesn’t seem to have done their job. The reasons quoted for this failure are juvenile and childish to say the least.

The claim that the aim was not to escalate, sounds hollow from your side. To start with, the attacks should have made some mark, to start talking of holding back or escalating.

I never claimed to be a neutral person. I am a proud Indian and have no qualms about this. I would always root for my nation, where I can.

What I do claim, is that I am not a fanboy or a bhakt. I am not the one who blindly toes just one line of thinking. I also claim to be an objective person who has the capability to criticise India if they fail anywhere.

PAF did exceptionally well in Air to Air battle. IAF failed miserably.

Pakistan failed miserably in making any impact against Indian installations is the other side of my analysis.
Both these are based on FACTS, that have come to fore and not blindness displayed by many fanboys/bhakts.

Propaganda facts of disgraceful indian media

 

[Developereo]

so it means he is guessing from his fat head

All these dinosaur talking heads got their fat positions only because they were loyal to one corrupt politician or another, sometimes several opposing ones in a row, LOL.

They know jack sh!t about anything.

 

[Developereo]

Any update on Shivangi Singh?? Very strange if not.

RelaxSingh.
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[TopGun786]

Not limited. Just the desired damage and the display of capability to strike where India wanted.
So, don’t count building to building numbers or the cost of damage. The reason has been explained in my previous post.


There should have been some pound of flesh to show. There was none.

The hypothesis that India’s attack at Nur Khan and other assets, were scaled down, to show just the intent, can’t be compared to Pak’s incapability to cause visible and verifiable damage to Indian installations. It is like a student who scores 90% marks and then claims that 95% was within sights, compared to a student who scores 30% but makes the same claim. Both are hypotheses but no way comparable to each other.

This is only applicable to attack on ground targets and not Air to Air engagements.

Both nations used weapons of their choice. Pakistan’s choice doesn’t seem to have done their job. The reasons quoted for this failure are juvenile and childish to say the least.

The claim that the aim was not to escalate, sounds hollow from your side. To start with, the attacks should have made some mark, to start talking of holding back or escalating.

I never claimed to be a neutral person. I am a proud Indian and have no qualms about this. I would always root for my nation, where I can.

What I do claim, is that I am not a fanboy or a bhakt. I am not the one who blindly toes just one line of thinking. I also claim to be an objective person who has the capability to criticise India if they fail anywhere.

PAF did exceptionally well in Air to Air battle. IAF failed miserably.

Pakistan failed miserably in making any impact against Indian installations is the other side of my analysis.
Both these are based on FACTS, that have come to fore and not blindness displayed by many fanboys/bhakts.

Again wording gymnastics

 

[lightning f57]

It failed to strike Indian targets

Where's your proof of that, Pak military says multiple targets were hit so your assertion is just your own opinion not based on any facts. You can say Pak military didnt provide sufficient proof however absence of proof doesn't mean it didn't happen either.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Where's your proof of that, Pak military says multiple targets were hit so your assertion is just your own opinion not based on any facts.

I agree. Saying and assertions have no meaning. Neither mine, nor your’s, ISPR’s or Indian word.

They have to be proven with verifiable BDA, by independent OSINT analysts and enthusiasts. Or presented by each side with undeniable clarity.
There are plenty in this regard to verify the success of Indian attacks and none for your side.

absence of proof doesn't mean it didn't happen either.

Why is there absence of proof? What happened to Chinese satellites.
Mizar is a Chinese company and was the first one to publish images of damage to Nur Khan.
Suddenly, ISPR couldn’t have become so benevolent to refrain from getting hold of these images of Indian bases and present them as a proof.
We know why no such proof has been presented by anyone, even private and independent agencies.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Propaganda facts of disgraceful indian media

Very convenient to try and brush facts under the carpet, with a one liner.

 

[Fatman17]

Very convenient to try and brush facts under the carpet, with a one liner.

Don't want to waste my time refuting your propaganda

 

[Cookie Monster]

Not limited. Just the desired damage and the display of capability to strike where India wanted.
So, don’t count building to building numbers or the cost of damage. The reason has been explained in my previous post.


There should have been some pound of flesh to show. There was none.

The hypothesis that India’s attack at Nur Khan and other assets, were scaled down, to show just the intent, can’t be compared to Pak’s incapability to cause visible and verifiable damage to Indian installations. It is like a student who scores 90% marks and then claims that 95% was within sights, compared to a student who scores 30% but makes the same claim. Both are hypotheses but no way comparable to each other.

This is only applicable to attack on ground targets and not Air to Air engagements.

Both nations used weapons of their choice. Pakistan’s choice doesn’t seem to have done their job. The reasons quoted for this failure are juvenile and childish to say the least.

The claim that the aim was not to escalate, sounds hollow from your side. To start with, the attacks should have made some mark, to start talking of holding back or escalating.

I never claimed to be a neutral person. I am a proud Indian and have no qualms about this. I would always root for my nation, where I can.

What I do claim, is that I am not a fanboy or a bhakt. I am not the one who blindly toes just one line of thinking. I also claim to be an objective person who has the capability to criticise India if they fail anywhere.

PAF did exceptionally well in Air to Air battle. IAF failed miserably.

Pakistan failed miserably in making any impact against Indian installations is the other side of my analysis.
Both these are based on FACTS, that have come to fore and not blindness displayed by many fanboys/bhakts.

Too long a post...all to just say that u r unable to set aside ur bias...
...well in that case I would just let u live in ur world...like the rest of Indians(bhakts or not..doesn't matter). Continue to think that Pakistan is incapable of hitting India whenever wherever...
...continue to think that Pakistan couldn't do damage...and that Pakistan's more capable weapons are just tall claims...and are just toys...
...such Indian hubris is good for Pakistan.

Ur lot will learn the hard way...as u have many times before... remember when it was chini maal? Pakistan is broke? Raptor of the east? S400 will enforce a no fly zone? Rafale is better than J20?
...the thing with reality is...it continues to unfold .. regardless of what one might continue to believe.

Carry on.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

Where's your proof of that, Pak military says multiple targets were hit so your assertion is just your own opinion not based on any facts. You can say Pak military didnt provide sufficient proof however absence of proof doesn't mean it didn't happen either.

There is no lack of evidence — satellite images clearly show that Indian airbases suffered zero damage, while the damage to Pakistani airbases is plainly visible. It was a decisive victory for India over Pakistan. Iran, at the very least, managed to inflict some damage on Israel, but all of Pakistan’s drones and missiles were intercepted by the Indian air defense system with 100% accuracy, failing to cause any damage anywhere in India. This is a well-established fact.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

Too long a post...all to just say that u r unable to set aside ur bias...
...well in that case I would just let u live in ur world...like the rest of Indians(bhakts or not..doesn't matter). Continue to think that Pakistan is incapable of hitting India whenever wherever...
...continue to think that Pakistan couldn't do damage...and that Pakistan's more capable weapons are just tall claims...and are just toys...
...such Indian hubris is good for Pakistan.

Ur lot will learn the hard way...as u have many times before... remember when it was chini maal? Pakistan is broke? Raptor of the east? S400 will enforce a no fly zone? Rafale is better than J20?
...the thing with reality is...it continues to unfold .. regardless of what one might continue to believe.

Carry on.

Pakistan often makes tall claims about its weapon systems, while India has maintained a more restrained and grounded approach. Much has been said about Israel’s Iron Dome, which is undoubtedly effective, but it still doesn’t match the performance of India’s air defense system, which successfully intercepted every drone and missile launched by Pakistan. India’s air defense is far more versatile — it includes a combination of anti-aircraft guns, directed energy weapons, jammers, and a wide array of both indigenous and imported missile systems. All of this is seamlessly integrated into India’s network-centric warfare ecosystem, with satellites, ground-based radars, and AWACS working in perfect coordination.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

I agree. Saying and assertions have no meaning. Neither mine, nor your’s, ISPR’s or Indian word.

They have to be proven with verifiable BDA, by independent OSINT analysts and enthusiasts. Or presented by each side with undeniable clarity.
There are plenty in this regard to verify the success of Indian attacks and none for your side.


Why is there absence of proof? What happened to Chinese satellites.
Mizar is a Chinese company and was the first one to publish images of damage to Nur Khan.
Suddenly, ISPR couldn’t have become so benevolent to refrain from getting hold of these images of Indian bases and present them as a proof.
We know why no such proof has been presented by anyone, even private and independent agencies.

There is no absence of proof — satellite images of Indian airbases clearly show zero damage.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

There is no absence of proof — satellite images of Indian airbases clearly show zero damage.

You are back after being banned 5 times bro?

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

You are back after being banned 5 times bro?

Every time I share satellite images showing zero damage to Indian airbases, I end up getting banned.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Too long a post...all to just say that u r unable to set aside ur bias...
...well in that case I would just let u live in ur world...like the rest of Indians(bhakts or not..doesn't matter). Continue to think that Pakistan is incapable of hitting India whenever wherever...
...continue to think that Pakistan couldn't do damage...and that Pakistan's more capable weapons are just tall claims...and are just toys...
...such Indian hubris is good for Pakistan.

Ur lot will learn the hard way...as u have many times before... remember when it was chini maal? Pakistan is broke? Raptor of the east? S400 will enforce a no fly zone? Rafale is better than J20?
...the thing with reality is...it continues to unfold .. regardless of what one might continue to believe.

Carry on.

Other’s realities are delusions but own delusions are also facts. That is the gist of your post.
I presented an argument devoid of any emotions or lofty fantasies. While your post has focussed only on these two.
You are mixing facts and emotions and creating an argument devoid of brevity and objective thinking.

I never claimed that Pakistan is not capable of this or that. I never said Chini maal, or raptor of the east etc etc. But you have chosen to quote them as there is nothing you can say to place your case here.

I just stated the facts based on the events in the aftermath of Op Sindhoor. And you have tried to create poetry.

If you have no argument or proof of your success of ground attacks then there is nothing wrong in accepting it. But, accepting one’s faults or mistakes takes a little more than what many people posses.

You have chosen to believe that things will unfold only in your favour? And I am the one who is delusional?

Please carry on with your belief that all advantages lie with you and all is well on your side and bad on Indian side.