Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[hydrabadi_arab]

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Only Pakistan could have ended India vishwaguru delusions lmao

 

[PK781]

In 2019, Wing Commander Abhinandan was in Pakistan’s custody, which is why India refrained from escalating the conflict further—securing his release was the top priority. However, in 2025, Pakistan had no such leverage, allowing India to carry out strikes on 11 airbases, radar sites, and other military installations across the length and breadth of the country. Once a conflict escalates beyond a certain point, even holding prisoners of war is no longer an effective tool for forcing a ceasefire.

let me remind you....in 2025 we still have the "indian" Kalbhusan Yadav.........or have you guys deserted the poor fella already and dont consider him indian??

Pakistan still has him you know.....and very sure he has spilled all the breans by now.....we know what he knew.......

And please be careful of wishing.....it aint going to be pretty even if u sit in Nepal.
Wars tend to affect everything and everyone globally these days.
Cascading effects and all that. Specially for land-locked nations

 

[Hayabusa]

Reddit has degenerated into a rightwing toxic dunghole. Anti immigrant, anti Muslim, anti woman and pro Zionist. It's quite remarkable the shift in last five years. Only a few decent subreddits left.

There is still a few decent subreddits. I would say r/lesscredibledefense still have some neutral views on the conflict.

The rest have been invaded by Indians who have been carrying out brigading activities.

 

[PK781]

reddit is full of indians and they don't let other/neutral viewpoints......its all about indian wins and glorifications. Anything other is quickly deleted by the indian mods.
Seems its sold out to india already or that its run by them now.
i hope it crashes and shuts down for good.

 

[Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise]

let me remind you....in 2025 we still have the "indian" Kalbhusan Yadav.........or have you guys deserted the poor fella already and dont consider him indian??

Pakistan still has him you know.....and very sure he has spilled all the breans by now.....we know what he knew.......

And please be careful of wishing.....it aint going to be pretty even if u sit in Nepal.
Wars tend to affect everything and everyone globally these days.
Cascading effects and all that. Specially for land-locked nations

A war between India and Pakistan would have a widespread impact across the entirety of Pakistan, while there will be no effects on India or maybe some limited to border areas but, even those would be short-lived. For perspective, the 1971 war lasted only 12 days.

In the Russia-Ukraine war, the impact is being felt across all of Ukraine, while Russia remains largely unaffected. Similarly, during the Israel-Palestine conflict, the entire nation of Israel initially felt the effects due to its small geographical size. However, after the first few days, the conflict has been largely confined to Palestinian territories, with minimal impact on Israel.

 

[Corax]

A war between India and Pakistan would have a widespread impact across the entirety of Pakistan, while there will be no effects on India or maybe some limited to border areas but, even those would be short-lived. For perspective, the 1971 war lasted only 12 days.

In the Russia-Ukraine war, the impact is being felt across all of Ukraine, while Russia remains largely unaffected. Similarly, during the Israel-Palestine conflict, the entire nation of Israel initially felt the effects due to its small geographical size. However, after the first few days, the conflict has been largely confined to Palestinian territories, with minimal impact on Israel.

Most of the high value targets in india are within short distance for Pakistan, making them easy targets. But in a nuclear exchange india would probably fair better given it's larger rural population, and given indians breed like rats you should be able to repopulate quite quickly although the nuclear fallout will cause significant genetic issues above and beyond current ones.

 

[Vkdindian1]

This has been discussed earlier too, but few children have still not understood why India and Pakistan agreed to the ceasefire.
They still want to claim victory based on who agreed to the ceasefire and who came under pressure and who would have beaten the daylights out of the other side, had the other side not slumped on its knees and begged for mercy.

No side was seeking a full war here. India just wanted to send a message through an initial strike. It got a shock when it lost a few aircraft. Even then, it was ready (probably) for an end to the show. But Pakistan awaam, and the establishment couldn’t let that slide. How can they accept a ceasefire without giving a muh tod zawaab?
That set in motion drone and loitering munition attacks by both sides. What they achieved through that is still in doubt, due to claims and counterclaims.
Meanwhile, the nations with some influence like the US and Qatar got talking to both sides.
That is the time when the Brahmos and Fatah exchange started. For Pak to show that it would give a solid reply to Indian aggression and for the Indian side to salvage something to show after losing those aircraft. Few more types of weapons were used in a limited way.

At this point too, both sides had achieved their narrative which had led to the start of the conflict. No side wanted any more escalation as they had nothing to gain further but the possibility of an uncontrollable or uncontainable situation.

That is why, when the offer came, through Trump baba or Qatar or someone still not known, both sides grabbed it and said - Fine. Let’s stop.

The impression that a few more days to the defence forces would have allowed them to maul the other side is nothing but delusion and daydreaming.

What had stayed out of that conflict till 10th May, were the Army, Navy, Ballistic missiles, and many other more potent weapons. Did any side intend to use them? Not till then, but any more escalation, and then, no one knows where it could have led.

Did India achieve its objective from deterring Pak to continue to provide any material support to cessationist in Kashmir, is for Pak Mil to decide and would never convey to openly. I have a doubt that they would do it. Munir has stated the reasons many times.
What is almost certain is that India is likely to strike directly at Pak mil next time.
With J35 joining the party, it would definitely be something else.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

India vs Pakistan: Secret Plans, Army Cracks & What’s Coming in the Next War!​

A former PAF AM is confirming the acquisition of J-35, HQ-19 and the Chinese AWACS to maintain a 10-year gap with the IAF....

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[Jango007]

Looks like Indonesian speaker claimed India lost 6 aircrafts and Indian dude was forced to acknowledge losses ))))

"The seminar on ‘Analysis of the Pakistan–India Air Battle and Indonesia’s Anticipatory Strategies from the Perspective of Air Power’ was organised on June 10 by Universitas Dirgantara Marsekal Suryadarma in Indonesia. In a 35-minute presentation made at the seminar, Captain (IN) Shiv Kumar conceded that even though he “may not agree (with an earlier Indonesian speaker’s claim) that we lost so many aircraft, but I do agree we did lose some aircraft.” "

'IAF Lost Fighter Jets to Pak Because of Political Leadership’s Constraints’: Indian Defence Attache

During a seminar on the India-Pak air battle, Captain (IN) Shiv Kumar conceded that even though he “may not agree (with an earlier Indonesian speaker’s claim) that we lost so many aircraft, but I do agree we did lose some aircraft.”

thewire.in

 

[Jango007]

As if lying about the plane losses was not difficult enough Trump sticks the sharp end of his stick in Modi's rear end every second day.....)


"This appears to be the 17th or 18th time across all public platforms that Trump has made the claim that the US facilitated the ceasefire between the South Asian neighbours in May by leveraging trade negotiations.

As The Wire has reported before, the US administration had also formalised the claim in a legal document, with US Commerce Secretary Howard W. Lutnick stating in a written filing to a New York federal court that Trump used trade access as an incentive to “avert a full-scale war” between India and Pakistan."

'Used Trade to Stop India-Pakistan War': Trump Repeats Claim Again

'I was negotiating with both of them and I said to [treasury secretary] Scott [Bessent], I said to Howard [Lutnick], cancel all deals with India and Pakistan. They're not trading with us because they're in a war.'

thewire.in

 

[delta2]

Most of the high value targets in india are within short distance for Pakistan, making them easy targets. But in a nuclear exchange india would probably fair better given it's larger rural population, and given indians breed like rats you should be able to repopulate quite quickly although the nuclear fallout will cause significant genetic issues above and beyond current ones.

Have you ever seen a house on fire?

There will be no survivors after a nuclear exchange. Nothing will be left except radioactive ash. If a few Indians survive here or there, they will have no water to drink or food to eat after one or two days, three days tops.

Your math is all wrong.

Don't be a sacrifial cow.

 

[TopGun786]

A war between India and Pakistan would have a widespread impact across the entirety of Pakistan, while there will be no effects on India or maybe some limited to border areas but, even those would be short-lived. For perspective, the 1971 war lasted only 12 days.

In the Russia-Ukraine war, the impact is being felt across all of Ukraine, while Russia remains largely unaffected. Similarly, during the Israel-Palestine conflict, the entire nation of Israel initially felt the effects due to its small geographical size. However, after the first few days, the conflict has been largely confined to Palestinian territories, with minimal impact on Israel.

What kind of weed you smoked this morning?
Or is it cow-cola which made certain brain cells dead.

 

[Vox Non Dei]

let me remind you....in 2025 we still have the "indian" Kalbhusan Yadav.........or have you guys deserted the poor fella already and dont consider him indian??

Pakistan still has him you know.....and very sure he has spilled all the breans by now.....we know what he knew.......

And please be careful of wishing.....it aint going to be pretty even if u sit in Nepal.
Wars tend to affect everything and everyone globally these days.
Cascading effects and all that. Specially for land-locked nations

India also has a Pakistani colonel.
And did you learn nothing from the entire Pannun incidence? Everything in intelligence is compartmentalized. He knew only what he needed to know. By now that information is worthless.

 

[RescueRanger]

What is this?

Are you still high on *********

Has been thread banned. Please out of respect for the saner Indian members on the thread - please edit the "cola" part of your post please bahi.

 

[El Sidd]

This has been discussed earlier too, but few children have still not understood why India and Pakistan agreed to the ceasefire.
They still want to claim victory based on who agreed to the ceasefire and who came under pressure and who would have beaten the daylights out of the other side, had the other side not slumped on its knees and begged for mercy.

No side was seeking a full war here. India just wanted to send a message through an initial strike. It got a shock when it lost a few aircraft. Even then, it was ready (probably) for an end to the show. But Pakistan awaam, and the establishment couldn’t let that slide. How can they accept a ceasefire without giving a muh tod zawaab?
That set in motion drone and loitering munition attacks by both sides. What they achieved through that is still in doubt, due to claims and counterclaims.
Meanwhile, the nations with some influence like the US and Qatar got talking to both sides.
That is the time when the Brahmos and Fatah exchange started. For Pak to show that it would give a solid reply to Indian aggression and for the Indian side to salvage something to show after losing those aircraft. Few more types of weapons were used in a limited way.

At this point too, both sides had achieved their narrative which had led to the start of the conflict. No side wanted any more escalation as they had nothing to gain further but the possibility of an uncontrollable or uncontainable situation.

That is why, when the offer came, through Trump baba or Qatar or someone still not known, both sides grabbed it and said - Fine. Let’s stop.

The impression that a few more days to the defence forces would have allowed them to maul the other side is nothing but delusion and daydreaming.

What had stayed out of that conflict till 10th May, were the Army, Navy, Ballistic missiles, and many other more potent weapons. Did any side intend to use them? Not till then, but any more escalation, and then, no one knows where it could have led.

Did India achieve its objective from deterring Pak to continue to provide any material support to cessationist in Kashmir, is for Pak Mil to decide and would never convey to openly. I have a doubt that they would do it. Munir has stated the reasons many times.
What is almost certain is that India is likely to strike directly at Pak mil next time.
With J35 joining the party, it would definitely be something else.

India has categorically stated that Operation Sindoor is ongoing and a temporary pause has been strategically observed.

Pakistan has concluded Bunyan al Mars'us.