Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

is this a real video of Jaishamkar?

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Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
Looks like the IAF leadership is absolutely happy with its performance for it has squarely defeated the PAF! The PAF leadership has got nothing to worry about...


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Indians naturally have a loser's face.
 
side-winder said:
@10:14 He starts talking about ROE. He clearly states that as per ROE once you are fired upon, you have the complete liberty to fire back. Later on, he mentions that IAF clearly had no idea of actual range and capabilities of PL-15s.

Hence proven, it was incompetence of IAF. Not any ROE restriction BS.
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Nooooooo saar do not reeedeeem itttt..... IAF hands were tied. 😂
 
Bharati reasoning is simple: if I accept my weakness the outsiders will think I am weaker than I really am! Hence, I need to project myself as strong. In fact Sun Tzu also said: project yourself as strong when you're weak, and weak when you're strong. Bharat project herself as strong and Pakistan as weak.....

And, the #of IAF jets downed is a top secret, so that the enemy can't fathom its tactics. So, we have to get info only from the PAF....

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The most important take away: the IAF pilots depend on their intuitions. As for the PAF pilots, it's their FAITH, training, and technology....

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Assault Rifle said:
That is Chinese CCP politburo member.
Show me one instance of Indian or Pakistan foreign minister ever holding a one on one meeting with US President .
Pro-tip: You can't, as it never happened
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Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
The most important take away: the IAF pilots depend on their intuitions. As for the PAF pilots, it's their FAITH, training, and technology....

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Hakikat ve Hikmet said:
Bharati reasoning is simple: if I accept my weakness the outsiders will think I am weaker than I really am! Hence, I need to project myself as strong. In fact Sun Tzu also said: project yourself as strong when you're weak, and weak when you're strong. Bharat project herself as strong and Pakistan as weak.....

And, the #of IAF jets downed is a top secret, so that the enemy can't fathom its tactics. So, we have to get info only from the PAF....

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Funny thing is that it's not the political leadership or journalists discussing "losses" but all three wings of the Indian Armed Forces, the Air Force,Army,Navy who are themselves discussing the "losses".
If it is not to be discussed then why not flatly refuse to comment or even deny there were losses ?
Why first announce there were losses and then berate the journalist asking questions?
Air Marshal Sachdev seems singularly misinformed about the loss of aircraft during World War 2 . The Allies lost far more.
106400, were lost by the Soviet Union alone, of which 83,300 were combat aircraft and the rest transport, training, and liaison aircraft.
Word War 2 is not an accurate comparison in an India-Pakistan skirmish scenario. A more comparable situation is the Israeli strikes on Iran where 200 combat and support aircraft of all types flew 2000 km and delivered devastating strikes on military targets without losing a single aircraft,
The USA's strikes on Iranian nuclear sites is also a comparable air strike operation, again in terms of logistics, range and delivery of weapons but far more challenging, which was conducted with no losses.
Air Marshal Sachdev mentioned "Hamas Israel" war. Did Hamas have an air force? 😊 In any case the Israeli spokesperson never announced or admitted any loss of aircraft suffered by the IDF in 20 months of fighting,
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@Sam6536
Off topic but a response to you is necessary.
You are glossing over the details. The situation in Manipur is much more horrific than the outside world is allowed to know.
There are heinous crimes being committed against women, and torture and beheadings against innocent civilians,
Even in the worst instances of the terrorist activity in Baluchistan or KP , women have not been gang raped or paraded naked


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StormBreaker said:
Let’s brainstorm the best possible way they would attack us?

They probably want us to give in to our earlier statements that any terrorist attack on PK soil would be considered an attack by India and will be retaliated in the same way.

They would want to ignite us by a major attack (military premises? A repeat if Kamra? Ukraine UAV volley?) and once we give in, they wouldn’t hesitate to launce massive barrages of brahmos on our military infrastructure.

Next round could be really deadly and we might not see de-escalation as we saw.

But what keeps me cool is that Pak (and China) provably have already planned this out extensively and have their counter strategies in place InshaAllah
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Sir,

The real brain behind PAF greatest kill chain on May 6th/7th was AWACS flying behind the PAF jets and feeding them the most critical data from Enemy Jets like electronic ID taggings, tracking and locking for BVR strikes....Hence that asset was playing the most important part....

Now in the next round....Indians would try their best to take out SAAB 2000 as soon as they see it in air....that would significantly reduce the PAF previously proven strategy.

Also note that this time IAF, will remain in defensive mode ...they will not send strike missions any more until IAF regain confidence.

They will rely primarily on missile strikes that go beyond the Bhramos kind.
 
NA71 said:
Sir,

The real brain behind PAF greatest kill chain on May 6th/7th was AWACS flying behind the PAF jets and feeding them the most critical data from Enemy Jets like electronic ID taggings, tracking and locking for BVR strikes....Hence that asset was playing the most important part....

Now in the next round....Indians would try their best to take out SAAB 2000 as soon as they see it in air....that would significantly reduce the PAF previously proven strategy.

Also note that this time IAF, will remain in defensive mode ...they will not send strike missions any more until IAF regain confidence.

They will rely primarily on missile strikes that go beyond the Bhramos kind.
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How exactly IAF will achieve Air to air kills against Erieye which will be flying 200plus km away from border? For that they will need to enter Pak air space and neutralize aerial and air defense threats. If they attack AWACS on ground with long range cruise missiles im sure Pak will launch their own missiles to destroy big targets on ground. Pak only launched rockets last time. Unless India wants all out war then they should only focus air warfare.
 
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