Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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Can you imagine these obnoxious hateful Indians having a permanent security council seat? This was being discussed just 10 years ago. They nearly had them all hoodwinked. The world finally understands India is belligerent and uncouth.
 
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India whole narrative about Pakistan double game against USA in Afghanistan was bound to fall apart with time. USA knows they did dirty by bringing in anti-Pakistan ANA/India in Afghanistan. With time USA establishment would have gotten over it. Especially after ANA failed spectacularly despite trillion dollar investment in nation building, just like Pakistan has been telling them that it would happen.
 
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Dear Pak:

look this pic closely.
 
Once a nuclear power starts hurling missiles into another nuclear country - and that too in the subcontinent with ~2b folks - it means madness, delusion, and suicidal tendency of the highest order. Bharat wants to take down the entire world with her due to terrorist Hindutva ideology, whose religious redemption lies in Pakistan's perdition. Bharat has been Pak's problem, now she's become entire world's migraine due to a cancerous tumor growing with time. Some serious surgery to remove that tumor is required....

Between April 22 Pahalgam attack and May 7 conflict, I had said here that I saw no scenario where India would come out ahead by launching a conflict with Pakistan.
India is literally playing with fire with its 'New Normal'. Absolute stupidity which won't benefit anyone in the region. I just can't believe it. I just can't!
 
Between April 22 Pahalgam attack and May 7 conflict, I had said here that I saw no scenario where India would come out ahead by launching a conflict with Pakistan.
India is literally playing with fire with its 'New Normal'. Absolute stupidity which won't benefit anyone in the region. I just can't believe it. I just can't!

The "new normal" is the old normal. Nothing has changed no matter what the Indian govt. has stated.

The statements are geared towards domestic audience. The reality is both countries cannot afford war and they know it. Indian action is purely through the lens of domestic politics and that is really what is dangerous. They are taking irrational and idiotic actions.
 
The "new normal" is the old normal. Nothing has changed no matter what the Indian govt. has stated.
The statements are geared towards domestic audience. The reality is both countries cannot afford war and they know it. Indian action is purely through the lens of domestic politics and that is really what is dangerous. They are taking irrational and idiotic actions.

I wouldn't be that sure.
When did India launch missiles into the Pakistani heartland and that too in the civilian areas? When did India launch hypersonic missiles targeting Pakistan's military facilities? That kind of aggression happened during the 1971 War and that was over half a century ago.

This Indian policy is carefully calculated to destabilize Pakistan, drain Pakistan's focus and resources. Indians rightly see Pakistan getting its economy in order, getting its international alliances stronger, and getting the terrorism in Pakistan under control with the new understandings with Afghanistan and Iran. I think India knows that Pakistan cannot totally stop what is going on in Indian Occupied Kashmir, assuming Pakistan officially even doing something in IoK. The post-Pahalgam over-reaction by India is to hurt Pakistan in different ways than before, including grabbing Pakistan's water resources. I don't buy this is for the Indian domestic audience.
 
Between April 22 Pahalgam attack and May 7 conflict, I had said here that I saw no scenario where India would come out ahead by launching a conflict with Pakistan.
India is literally playing with fire with its 'New Normal'. Absolute stupidity which won't benefit anyone in the region. I just can't believe it. I just can't!
Imperialists, by definition, are damn fast in retribution and dead slow in reward. They will give you opportunity, but for once. And, they've an institutional memory of that of an elephant to support their meticulous calculations, which don't leave anything unattended big or small.....

As per the KITAP, HE puts one power against the other to maintain the geo-strategic balance. And, HE puts into them hatred for each other. Sultan Abdul Hamid Khan (RA) used to understand these dynamics so well that he could put the "Sick Man of Europe" in ventilation for 33 years while trying to resuscitate it to life. No wonder, Von Bismarck used to say: the Sultan has 90% of the geo-political brains of Europe, the rest 10% is shared by all of us. Strangely, the Pak Deep State plays from the same playbook. They don't antagonize the Western Imperialists to the point of no return for a reason. According to Dr Israr Ahmed (RA), HE employs the Christians to inflict Fitne and Fesat on the Jews and the Muslims for all of their worldly misdeeds. As per Imam-i Rabbani (RA), these Ftine and Fesat are the collective Keffara, so that they're not taken into account in the Akhiret....
 
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The "new normal" is the old normal. Nothing has changed no matter what the Indian govt. has stated.

The statements are geared towards domestic audience. The reality is both countries cannot afford war and they know it. Indian action is purely through the lens of domestic politics and that is really what is dangerous. They are taking irrational and idiotic actions.
I think this is being in denial. Hindutva, Indian economic growth and praise from the West have inflated Indian ego and self image to dangerous proportions. You see India repeatedly crossing red lines since 2016. Pakistani doctrine and response needs to catch up. The Indians are still dreaming of doing to Pakistan what Israel does to its opponents and both Zionists and Hindutva respect only strength and are merciless to the weak.

PAF has carried the day in 2019 and 2025 but cannot be expected to always shoulder the burden or succeed. There needs to be multiple options to quickly punish Indians and cause military and economic pain, and then to repeat.
 
he at least 3rd journalist I have heard that more than 12 jets either shot down or were damaged!

some thing is wrong here. Importantly, all jour. I have heard with these figures had close ties with deep state. That cant be all false.

on the other hand, IAF is'nt 'exuberantly rational' about Rafaeles too!

Peak delusion. Pakistan didn’t shoot more than 6 and only 4 are objectively verified.
 
All this BS about fighting 4 adversaries put to rest…

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In this sense Pak is lucky to have Bharat as her adversary! Think about Turkey. She's surrounded by the People of the Books....
 
Moon soon season is dangerous time to project air or missile power in kashmir region

knowing the fact that army will not be able to move forward or even on deploying positions due to excessive rain and floods. Artillery and shells can only be used which are at front lines.

Good thing is brics meeting is coming and India cannot create foreign policy blunder at this time.
 
I believe 3 to 4 small scale conflicts with India is now a reality. India will do something stupid again but i personally believe that they are waiting for the winter. They know chinese factor. Now they are seriously worried about Pakistan. China giving weapons and satellite support is hurting them but they can only cry. Indian army was living in another world. Now they realized that Pak can also use satellites. It's crazy for them to think in that way like we don't have access to satellites etc. India is now in no position to fight war but can still start another episode for domestic audience.
 
I believe 3 to 4 small scale conflicts with India is now a reality. India will do something stupid again but i personally believe that they are waiting for the winter. They know chinese factor. Now they are seriously worried about Pakistan. China giving weapons and satellite support is hurting them but they can only cry. Indian army was living in another world. Now they realized that Pak can also use satellites. It's crazy for them to think in that way like we don't have access to satellites etc. India is now in no position to fight war but can still start another episode for domestic audience.

They won't.

US has threatened them with sanctions if they decide to attack again. Also they they now understand Pakistan is a very sophisticated and superior military opponent compounded with logistical support from China.

This war was very important. It will mark the rise of Pakistan as a regional military power.
 

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