TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

[Pioneer]

Forget about KAAN, it's impossible. Kaan is too big for ACs. Also aircraft capable aircraft needs bigger wings, and stronger structural integrity.

We just need to wait for Navalized Hürjet, as i understand it's gonna be like a brand new aircraft.

It could also be that the aircraft carrier is too small

 

[Death_Zone]

Demiroğlu Açıkladı: KAAN’ın Yerli Motor Testleri 2032’de | SavunmaSanayiST

TUSAŞ Genel Müdürü Mehmet Demiroğlu, KAAN’ın yerli motorunun testlerine 2032 civarında başlanacağını açıkladı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

KAAN will began flight testing with TF35000 in 2032 assuming there will be no delays.

It would require 2-3 years of flight test at minimum considering they gets everything right at the first attempt.

So the earliest KAAN block 30 with indigenous engine will arrive in 2035. (Again, assuming there will be no delays)

"- Türkiye is also continuing its efforts to develop a completely domestically produced engine. Officials see 2035 and beyond as a more realistic timeframe for mass production."

CAATSA ve F-35’lerde konuşulan yol haritası

WASHINGTON-Ankara hattında bugün iki ayrı kilit bulunuyor.

www.hurriyet.com.tr

The first field trials will probably be made under a liner wing, no?

 

[Death_Zone]

KAAN weapon integration will begin with the third prototype

A hard task ! need some years.

 

[Flotilla]

With the necessary modifications in place, it is technically possible for the KAAN Fighter Jet to take off from 300 m MUGEM Aircraft Carrier

Wouldn't be just better build first a two seat KAAN just to improve their capability as electronic attack fighter (like Su34 or EF18) and capability to operate wingmans?.

IMO manned aircrafts for carriers are being slowly outdated. UCAVs and smallers ships of LHDs size can make 80% of a manned aircraft embarked.
The other 20% can be achieved with very long range missiles, cruise, ballistics both hypersonics.

 

[Oublious]

Back then, Pakistan reportedly transferred technologies related to the JF-17 Thunder, jointly developed by China and Pakistan, to Türkiye, providing significant support for the development of Türkiye’s aerospace industry. This reportedly caused dissatisfaction in China and led China to restrict and delay the delivery of J-35 fighter jets to Pakistan.

If that is indeed the case, Pakistan should continue sharing relevant J-10C technologies with Türkiye, further supporting the aerospace industry of its fellow Muslim brotherly nation and contributing to the broader Muslim world.

If that was the case why did Pakistan not started ther own project, when you spread bs make it like it is acceptable.

 

[Watandar]

Pakistan should abandon the J‑35. Since both Pakistan and Turkey are Muslim‑majority countries, it should support its brother‑nation and instead seek to procure the Kaan fighter jet.

The Kaan is not available for sale or export and won't for another 10-15 years.

 

[hyperman]

MUGEM Aircraft Carrier is 300 m , KAAN can take off from ski jump with STOBAR configuration

What Türkiye needs to do is develop an unmanned tanker Aircraft similar to the American MQ-25 Stingray .... Turkiye can do it from ANKA-3

A refueling probe can be added to the nose section of the navalized KAAN, concealed within the fuselage. This probe only emerges when in air refueling is required

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Air refueling completely replenishes the fuel deficit that KAAN left behind when taking off from the Aircraft Carrier. Thanks to this, KAAN achieves 100% operational radius and flight endurance for hours, as if it had taken off from land with full fuel

something like this
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Aircraft cannot fly off the deck of the Russian carriers in a full load and can't launch AWACS and ELINT to coordinate air battles. Air Logistic without transport is also complicated.

Its going to be a carrier thats not really going to be as effective as a Flattop Catapult carrier like USS Kitty Hawk, which wasn't nuclear and had catapults. But lets see, this is more long term stuff. When Turkey has bridged the Nuclear gap, it could be something pursued.

 

[hyperman]

The Kaan is not available for sale or export and won't for another 10-15 years.

This is not true. Indonesia already signed an export contract. Deliveries will be in the 2030s.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It doesn't have to be EMALS, you can build steam catapults.

but if one is building proper Aircraft carriers, CATOBAR is a must, whether the french design or the Chinese design or the US design. You cannot launch aircraft with significant munitions off a STOBAR carrier, its one of the failures of the Russian design, the Su-33 could not launch with its full load, and only light aircraft could be used. its a severe limitation of sorties and the amount of air power one can put on.

I think Turkey can go down the French route, and long term should pursue that.

The French catapult relies on the US technology in both steam and EMALS.

And the US AC EMALS was designed for the nuclear supercarrier, and it relies on the flying wheel as the energy storage.

China's DC EMALS is suitable for both conventional and nuclear, but it relies on the gas turbine.

Turkey can go to the route for the 60,000 - 70,000 tons gas turbine powered carrier with the DC EMALS.