Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion


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India acknowledged aircraft losses but didn’t say how many. French air force chief Gen. Jérôme Bellanger said that he’s seen evidence pointing to just 3 Indian losses — a Rafale, a Russian-made Sukhoi and a Mirage 2000, which is an earlier generation French-made jet. It was the first known combat loss of a Rafale, which France has sold to eight countries.
“Of course, all those, the nations that bought Rafales, asked themselves questions,” Bellanger said.
French officials have been battling to protect the plane from reputational damage, pushing back against what they allege was a concerted campaign of Rafale-bashing and disinformation online from Pakistan and its ally China.”


Apart from 3 confirmed by the French Air Force chief, a mig-29 was also smoked as evidenced by verifiable OSINT. 4 premier IAF planes were visually verified to have been shot down.
 
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>> Awful awful awful video - please should avoid this person and his videos, and his videos. I did some time ago come across him, and subscribed for about 3-4 videos before it was apparent he has no idea about anything, and his the old de-subscribe button. He spent 15minutes researching the events of the Pakistan/India conflict, and decided to put out an awful video that is not worth wasting 13minutes any ones time in viewing with his truly made up nonsense.

Unbelievably bad video. lol ...

It just shows even if someone claims to be a "military professional", that does not always mean they know what they are talking about, or a sign of intellect in their thought or reasoning or the ability to do basic research.

( someone else put up this video - think it was harpy and then they deleted their post, so i reposted the video just for the record ).
 
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Would have, could have should have😂standard script of a sore loser along with ‘ it wasn’t fair’🤣China helped them, Turkey helped them, we didn’t have Meteors, We didn’t have permission to fight back😂 Why so so much crying and excuses if u ‘won’ 🤡 show.
 
From the link you shared


India acknowledged aircraft losses but didn’t say how many. French air force chief Gen. Jérôme Bellanger said that he’s seen evidence pointing to just 3 Indian losses — a Rafale, a Russian-made Sukhoi and a Mirage 2000, which is an earlier generation French-made jet. It was the first known combat loss of a Rafale, which France has sold to eight countries.
“Of course, all those, the nations that bought Rafales, asked themselves questions,” Bellanger said.
French officials have been battling to protect the plane from reputational damage, pushing back against what they allege was a concerted campaign of Rafale-bashing and disinformation online from Pakistan and its ally China.”


Apart from 3 confirmed by the French Air Force chief, a mig-29 was also smoked as evidenced by verifiable OSINT. 4 premier IAF planes were visually verified to have been shot down.

Mig29 was shot down in Ramban, IOK

For some reason this one wasn't shared with French chief. I don't know why indians want to hide at least one aircraft everytime while accepting their losses. Sometimes they try to hide Rafale, sometimes SU30 and now mig29

If you are accepting losses then just accept all and move on
 
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>> Awful awful awful video - please should avoid this person and his videos, and his videos. I did some time ago come across him, and subscribed for about 3-4 videos before it was apparent he has no idea about anything, and his the old de-subscribe button. He spent 15minutes researching the events of the Pakistan/India conflict, and decided to put out an awful video that is not worth wasting 13minutes any ones time in viewing with his truly made up nonsense.

Unbelievably bad video. lol ...

It just shows even if someone claims to be a "military professional", that does not always mean they know what they are talking about, or a sign of intellect in their thought or reasoning or the ability to do basic research.

( someone else put up this video - think it was harpy and then they deleted their post, so i reposted the video just for the record ).

Alot of western self proclaimed defense analysts just label anything they dont like as propaganda.
 
Would have, could have should have😂standard script of a sore loser along with ‘ it wasn’t fair’🤣China helped them, Turkey helped them, we didn’t have Meteors, We didn’t have permission to fight back😂 Why so so much crying and excuses if u ‘won’ 🤡 show.

Mann these pro Imran jernos have gone crazy ever since popularity of Pak Military.
 
From the link you shared


India acknowledged aircraft losses but didn’t say how many. French air force chief Gen. Jérôme Bellanger said that he’s seen evidence pointing to just 3 Indian losses — a Rafale, a Russian-made Sukhoi and a Mirage 2000, which is an earlier generation French-made jet. It was the first known combat loss of a Rafale, which France has sold to eight countries.
“Of course, all those, the nations that bought Rafales, asked themselves questions,” Bellanger said.
French officials have been battling to protect the plane from reputational damage, pushing back against what they allege was a concerted campaign of Rafale-bashing and disinformation online from Pakistan and its ally China.”


Apart from 3 confirmed by the French Air Force chief, a mig-29 was also smoked as evidenced by verifiable OSINT. 4 premier IAF planes were visually verified to have been shot down.

A certain PAF pilot in 1965, after successful shooting hunt of the Indian Air Force, once told the British through the BBC not to sell any British planes to the Indians because the Indians were “doing very bad publicity for your planes”

The French are now learning the same lesson the hard way. The reputation of the Dassault air craft company is now in in desperate position because they trusted the Indian Air Force to fly these premier planes. The outcome is now for all to see and the entire French state machinery is now being activated to do damage control.

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Mig29 was shot down in Ramban, IOK

For some reason this one wasn't shared with French chief. I don't know why indians want to hide at least one aircraft everytime while accepting their losses. Sometimes they try to hide Rafale, sometimes SU30 and now mig29

If you are accepting losses then just accept all and move on

The Indians are sore losers who have been brought up with fake sense of supremacy and due to the historic bashings inflicted to them by PAF in 2019 & 2025, they are having a cognitive dissonance.
 
A certain PAF pilot in 1965, after successful shooting hunt of the Indian Air Force, once told the British through the BBC not to sell any British planes to the Indians because the Indians were “doing very bad publicity for your planes”

The French are now learning the same lesson the hard way. The reputation of the Dassault air craft company is now in in desperate position because they trusted the Indian Air Force to fly these premier planes. The outcome is now for all to see and the entire French state machinery is now being activated to do damage control.

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🤣🤣🤣Some things don’t change. I’ve also seen examples of IAF awarding medals to their men for shooting down PAF jets / killing the pilots in previous wars, contrary to facts and said PAF pilots living out their life’s in retirement.
 
F-35 is a joke.........its costly and now highly irrelevant.
Look at one of them British F35 sitting parked in indian state of Kerala after some stupid shitty failure which grounded it.....LOL......hey if thats a capacity that it requires "soft love" then it means its a garbage. Yet they keep trying to sell it to the world for insane amount of money when truth is, that other cheaper jets are better with advanced avionics.

Our fleet of JF17 Thundering Birds and the J10C is enough to deal a mighty blow to the indian military any day. They aren't getting anything from anywhere (Russia busy and USA wary). The french r pissed. LOL. So they can only hope to work on their own tejas and amca which will take another 50 yrs........

Once conflicts escalate to upper levels above Air squirmishes, then i'm afraid that its all about missiles then, the bigger and stronger and perhaps nuke-tipped if its going to be MAD sort of situation......

I just think the world is quickly running out of time.......these wars will get worse with time.......mankind just doesnt apprecoate how good they had.......now the ugly future wars r coming in fast!!
 

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