Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Abdul q]

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I don’t think this is SH-15 mounted on truck…. Maybe fixed on ground unit … the recoil on truck can’t make it this accurate… maybe i m wrong

 

[TAC]

I see most of you want to just talk about day one when India lost aircraft. Day one was indeed a surprise well delivered.

But, most people go into complete denial for rest of the days.
Few pock marks on the runways, oh just few unoccupied buildings, just few unoccupied trailers etc etc. India delivered a credible surprise by striking at will across entire Pakistan.

This selective blindness and claims of no credible damage display exactly the same Bhaktora mentality who deny losses of any aircraft.

Most members can’t understand the strategic signal given by striking a target within 10 Kms of your national capital and the GHQ. The accuracy and reach of striking at will was an excellent display of capability and failure for Pakistan to replicate the same.

Everyone in the world took note of and talks about day one not just most members here. What do u think the PAF Chief was invited to the US for? Because of what happened on Days 2,3 and 4? Why is France still crying and why has China’s standing & stock got such a boost. Day one was the battle and India’s false bravado and delusions of grandeur were smashed to bits on that day. Everything India did after that was simply desperate efforts to salvage some semblance of dignity from what was epic humiliation. You trying to project that as some kind of levelling the score is no more than pathetic cope and the only ones buying it are those like u also trying to live with the bitter reality. Just look at the excuses, half truths and evasiveness coming from India, are they the responses of someone who levelled the score or even ‘won’ as they shamelessly claim?
Heard any such crying and excuses from Pakistan’s officials?

 

[flyingorca]

I see most of you want to just talk about day one when India lost aircraft. Day one was indeed a surprise well delivered.

But, most people go into complete denial for rest of the days.
Few pock marks on the runways, oh just few unoccupied buildings, just few unoccupied trailers etc etc. India delivered a credible surprise by striking at will across entire Pakistan.

This selective blindness and claims of no credible damage display exactly the same Bhaktora mentality who deny losses of any aircraft.

Most members can’t understand the strategic signal given by striking a target within 10 Kms of your national capital and the GHQ. The accuracy and reach of striking at will was an excellent display of capability and failure for Pakistan to replicate the same.

Here we go again. If you are going to post such silly stuff be prepared to respond to counter arguments instead of using post and run tactics.
India response was a mere knee jerk reaction to the night PAF did to IAF. Destroyed bunch of your front line fighters which also resulted in deaths of your pilot. You indians have no idea what it means to your air power projection.
India may have hit Pak air bases with more TNT however Pakistan retaliation waa not just limited to air bases but your military sites across the border and 50 to 100 km inside. Less TNT weapons may have been used against your airbases thus harder to observe damages via satellite. This was achieved by mere rockets. Pak did not even uses cruise missiles or ballistic missiles which are reserved for next surprise.
Btw im still waiting for your response from previous post.

 

[Assault Rifle]

There would be no confsuion Indians simply accepted that they lost 3 Rafaels!!!!

Things that never happened.

 

[Jango007]

Things that never happened.

Ok why not accept one rafael loss for starters????

 

[A1Kaid]

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there were a few saying otherwise.. telling us that China cant risk the trade with superpower india and india will suspend trade and China will come back to senses…. so they would never help Pakistan… them and their delusions…

They are very delusional people, a frog in boiling war. China was not only actively supporting Pakistan it was studying India.

 

[Hayabusa]

Ok why not accept one rafael loss for starters????

Bro.

It's all decoys! A masterclass in the modern warfare as per Zee News!


/s

 

[Lion]

How far in is Uri from the LOC and did we use Guided RAPs ?

Yes, RAPs were used extensively, particularly out of SH-15s. They were even visible on a live stream set up in IOK at one point.

I believe the extremely heavy shelling by PA was in direct response to recent Indian claims that PA didn’t have enough artillery ammunition to last them a few days, and I mean this literally, someone wanted to prove a point.

This was the heaviest shelling ever seen in Kashmir outside of a declared war, though I’m not sure how happy we should be about it given how many civilians and civilian infrastructure was hit as collateral. It’s pretty evident what the worth of the average Kashmiris life or household was to both sides during the conflict.

 

[Lion]

I don’t think this is SH-15 mounted on truck…. Maybe fixed on ground unit … the recoil on truck can’t make it this accurate… maybe i m wrong

When the gun is fired the hydro-pneumatic suspension on the truck lowers down and stabilizer bars are extended behind the truck which hold the gun steady - it’s not just someone holding the brakes. It’s actually even more stable than most of the old Towed arty in PAs arsenal given it has modern recoil mitigation systems and trajectory computers.

 

[Abdul q]

When the gun is fired the hydro-pneumatic suspension on the truck lowers down and stabilizer bars are extended behind the truck which hold the gun steady - it’s not just someone holding the brakes. It’s actually even more stable than most of the old Towed arty in PAs arsenal given it has modern recoil mitigation systems and trajectory computers.

I hope it’s true… it’s just my opinion that recoil is really bad on a moving platform…… The truck can’t remain unshaken and i think the photo posted by @Areesh is not a result of SH-15 but some other platform….

 

[maverick]

The Indians are sore losers who have been brought up with fake sense of supremacy and due to the historic bashings inflicted to them by PAF in 2019 & 2025, they are having a cognitive dissonance.

your for kargil war bashing as well.. , 1965, and 1971 bashing..
their AF will always be bashed with Grace of Allah

 

[Be dazzled]

F-35 is a joke.........its costly and now highly irrelevant.
Look at one of them British F35 sitting parked in indian state of Kerala after some stupid shitty failure which grounded it.....LOL......hey if thats a capacity that it requires "soft love" then it means its a garbage. Yet they keep trying to sell it to the world for insane amount of money when truth is, that other cheaper jets are better with advanced avionics.

Our fleet of JF17 Thundering Birds and the J10C is enough to deal a mighty blow to the indian military any day. They aren't getting anything from anywhere (Russia busy and USA wary). The french r pissed. LOL. So they can only hope to work on their own tejas and amca which will take another 50 yrs........

Once conflicts escalate to upper levels above Air squirmishes, then i'm afraid that its all about missiles then, the bigger and stronger and perhaps nuke-tipped if its going to be MAD sort of situation......

I just think the world is quickly running out of time.......these wars will get worse with time.......mankind just doesnt apprecoate how good they had.......now the ugly future wars r coming in fast!!

Hydraulics failed. Now the toad can't even move. Stuck like a gate guard. Brits want to airlift it out. Would be quite a spectacle.

 

[Be dazzled]

How far in is Uri from the LOC and did we use Guided RAPs ?

The whole arsenal was tested on that poor brig HQ. War time testing of a new weapon system.

 

[Lion]

I hope it’s true… it’s just my opinion that recoil is really bad on a moving platform…… The truck can’t remain unshaken and i think the photo posted by @Areesh is not a result of SH-15 but some other platform….

It’s not a “moving platform” when firing. It’s static and has ground supports and out-riggings combined with an advanced hydro-pneumatic suspension to stabilize it. Everything will shake when a 155mm cannon is fired sure, but the guns are specifically designed to handle that, the entire world is using wheeled arty designs without issue. That damage is in fact a result of SH-15, there’s far more extreme examples of damage from arty too.

 

[PK781]

I see most of you want to just talk about day one when India lost aircraft. Day one was indeed a surprise well delivered.

But, most people go into complete denial for rest of the days.
Few pock marks on the runways, oh just few unoccupied buildings, just few unoccupied trailers etc etc. India delivered a credible surprise by striking at will across entire Pakistan.

This selective blindness and claims of no credible damage display exactly the same Bhaktora mentality who deny losses of any aircraft.

Most members can’t understand the strategic signal given by striking a target within 10 Kms of your national capital and the GHQ. The accuracy and reach of striking at will was an excellent display of capability and failure for Pakistan to replicate the same.

The common people in most countries may be dumb and believe the news propaganda.

But the intelligence agencies and those that keep an eye on everything important (for each country and their own) know very well who won, and who lost, and who was calling who exactly.
The intelligence world and agencies and militaries around the world are not dumb or stupid........they know what happened.......so if they're treating india as a "loser" in this event........there's a reason for it.
You are not going to convince them otherwise.......bcaz they made their own assessments accurately. They're not relying on PAF or our words. They are very capable of doing that even if they're not part of it.

Be careful what you wish for. War brings devastation and misery and screws up life badly. Your govt wants to keep the war running.....well sooner or later they gonna get it if they start that shit again, then you can only blame them when it gets rough and bloody for the average folks on both sides. Rather than being rational, india is getting more belligerent due to its internal politics. When u have more than 10 independence movements within, its not nice to start wars with neighbours for some votes. it will only lead to implosion from within..
you can only blame bjp/rss/moditva for that.