Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[TopGun786]

Allah mazeed himmat aur isteqamat dai

Only need "isteqamat"

 

[Fasbre2]

Dual runway is great to have if they are parallel. A strike on one runway wouldn’t be able to stop the operations.

However, Sargodha has cross runways. Indian missile struck exactly at the intersection of these, rendering them both non operational.

The taxi track was still available though and could have been used to continue with take offs and landings. The number of aircraft that can take off and land is likely to be reduced while using only taxi tracks.

Need to take lessons from the way IL airbases, runways and aircraft shelters, soft and hard are laid out…

 

[Baibers_1260]

Dual runway is great to have if they are parallel. A strike on one runway wouldn’t be able to stop the operations.

However, Sargodha has cross runways. Indian missile struck exactly at the intersection of these, rendering them both non operational.

The taxi track was still available though and could have been used to continue with take offs and landings. The number of aircraft that can take off and land is likely to be reduced while using only taxi tracks.

1. Did India completely destroy Pakistan's, air defense systems, its airforce and airfields ?
2. Has India provided satellite pictures of "complete destruction " of airbases like Israel has provided on attacks on Iranian, Syrian airbases?
3. How many aircraft did India destroy on the ground in strikes on airbases in Pakistan ?
4. Has India provided satellite or drone pictures of destroyed aircraft similar to the way Ukraine has provided on destruction of Russian aircraft on Engels and other airbases.
5. Does India control air space over Pakistan, and are Indian combat aircraft currently operating over Pakistan

 

[Master Chief]

Need to take lessons from the way IL airbases, runways and aircraft shelters, soft and hard are laid out…

X shaped runways exist for a reason. They have advantages and disadvantages, like all runway configurations. PAF knows what it's doing. Don't fall for silly Indian propaganda.

 

[Yasser76]

Need to take lessons from the way IL airbases, runways and aircraft shelters, soft and hard are laid out…

PAF bases have very good HAS coverage, especially compared to IAF bses

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Dual runway is great to have if they are parallel. A strike on one runway wouldn’t be able to stop the operations.

However, Sargodha has cross runways. Indian missile struck exactly at the intersection of these, rendering them both non operational.

The taxi track was still available though and could have been used to continue with take offs and landings. The number of aircraft that can take off and land is likely to be reduced while using only taxi tracks.

I admire you...


I admire your... enough, never to be like you!

 

[Fasbre2]

PAF bases have very good HAS coverage, especially compared to IAF bses

However our HAS stick out e a sore arm thumb. Look at the way IL and IN HAS are camouflaged…

 

[Baibers_1260]

Hilarious:
what a revelation by these two enlightened geniuses.
Even Praveen Sawhney wouldn't have known this.

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[Sal12]

Damage on Pakistan side is confirmed as limited / easily repairable by multiple reliable sources including seniors on this forum with track record of integrity / contacts and impartial reporting. You are saying ‘no proof of any major destruction caused to Indian bases’ and I have no reason to dispute that view.
So if no major damage confirmed / agreed on both sides, I struggle to understand this persistent demand for satellite images. What are you expecting them to show / prove? However I do understand Indians pushing this irrelevant issue as it takes the discussion away from their humiliation in the air battle. By the way, Have you seen any Indian’s asking for anyone on their side to be Court Martialed for that debacle? Point worth pondering?
You desperate to see what physical damage was done to India in a sphere where none was done to Pakistan, go look at the details of their top jets that got shot down all over including their most expensive and best Ra-fail. 4th one now being confirmed?

There is still a difference between having satellite images as proof of Indian strikes on Pak bases and No proof of Pak strikes on Indian bases. The amount of damage done to Pak bases through Brahmos is debatable but there is no denying that structures were hit from Indian strikes and Pak even failed to hit Indian bases except one where I saw the satellite image of a crater on its runway.

So having (limited as you say) damages on Pak bases is not equal to Pak not hitting the Indian bases or military assets and missed the targets.

Yes. Rafale's were down and PAF did a wonderful job for us. But here we are discussing the failures of Operation Bunyan al marsoos and the rationale for using rockets when India was hitting us supersonic missiles with accuracy.

 

[Baibers_1260]

There is still a difference between having satellite images as proof of Indian strikes on Pak bases and No proof of Pak strikes on Indian bases. The amount of damage done to Pak bases through Brahmos is debatable but there is no denying that structures were hit from Indian strikes and Pak even failed to hit Indian bases except one where I saw the satellite image of a crater on its runway.

So having (limited as you say) damages on Pak bases is not equal to Pak not hitting the Indian bases or military assets and missed the targets.

Yes. Rafale's were down and PAF did a wonderful job for us. But here we are discussing the Operation Bunyan al marsoos and the rationale for using rockets when India was hitting us supersonic missiles with accuracy.

Would deeply appreciate your comments on the post below.
Thanks

Post in thread 'Pakistan - India Conflict 2025 so far . Part lll'
https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/pakistan-india-conflict-2025-so-far-part-lll.23490/post-827541

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Hilarious:
what a revelation by these two enlightened geniuses.
Even Praveen Sawhney wouldn't have known this.

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Below they applied the Modi formula that if there's clouds, the planes won't be seen in radar due to low visibility

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[TAC]

Dual runway is great to have if they are parallel. A strike on one runway wouldn’t be able to stop the operations.

However, Sargodha has cross runways. Indian missile struck exactly at the intersection of these, rendering them both non operational.

The taxi track was still available though and could have been used to continue with take offs and landings. The number of aircraft that can take off and land is likely to be reduced while using only taxi tracks.

I believe Oscar confirmed that this runway damage did not disrupt operations in any way and was quickly repaired.

 

[Olympus81]

This is beyond comedy. The Indian psyops making sure some Pakistanis here parroting BDA.

The Indians are clutching at straws. The missile attacks cratered few runways and the only substantial damage was to a hangar and human loss in Bholari AFB. So what?

Are you idiots to think smoke, fire bellowing out of Pathankot, Udhampur, Adampur, Beas were a case of a pressure cooker blast?

Or taking out Uri brigade HQ and a terrorist police commissioner was a hoax?

4-6 IAF jets down and air superiority maintained 150km inside India. What more do you expect from a force which is smaller in multifold and tenth of a budget.

 

[NA71]

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[PakShaheen_79]

thats your version!
everything runs on relativity (understood under scientific principles)
truth is not singular nor it has many versions..
truth determines the fragility of arguments.
(but what is the evidence of what I am saying is based on evidence)
Counter question you could have asked, which only shows your inability to synthesize behaviors!

(where is evidence /truth of this: Truth is relative and needs to be understood (not proven by evidence)

see the video I have posted in your account

No, It's not! It's just part of my argument which in itself has nothing to do with the core argument here. (Lack of proof of any successful Pakistani strike on Indian airbases).
In response to my original post, you could have slapped multiple satellite images on my face and close the argument BUT..........WAIT .......... You don't have those so you choose to play word gymnastic to score some brownie points and make it a philosophical debate which has nothing to do with this thread. (If you want to have that debate about what TRUTH is and how it can be reached; open a thread in relevant forum and I am all in for a debate). Fact of the matter is, in this space time continuum, Either something happens, or it Doesn't. Do you know, how we solve the question has it happened or not?