Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Waz]

No propaganda. Another point of view.
I gave so many clues about the fact I'm french (nearly pure one : born in Belgium, raised in France, working in France, probably will die in France). You choose to igonore it : OK. your problem.

Dude just end speculation and take a photo of your hand with the name BonPlan written on it. An American fellow did so to prove his was white American. Anyway, you don't have to but I though it was an idea at least.

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Isn't it about time India acknowledged its armed services personnel.
So with the resounding "victory" that India achieved, don't you think that CDS Lt.General Anil Chauhan deserves "one extra " star?
Also, a *VSM or **AVSM is due to Vice Chief of Army Lt. Gen. Rahul Singh for brilliantly exposing the "borrowed knife " , "one front two adversaries ", "testing lab" strategies of the enemy.
This is something no one in the world ( certainly not the Pentagon) knew
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(* VSM = Vishisht Seva Medal, or Distinguished Services Medal
**AVSM = Ati-Vishisht Seva Medal, or Exceptional Service Medal, Note: These are legacy equivalents of the DSM, DSC of the Royal India "British Raj" Army)
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Also due are the following:

1. Shaurya Chakras due to the Brahmos missile crews for firing 500 missiles and hitting 19 targets.
2. Kirti Chakras due to the Rafale, Mig 29, Su 30, Mirage 2000 pilots who came back successfully completing the mission ( without their planes)
3. Vir Chakras to the LOC Border Observation Post personnel who stayed steadfast raising white flags announcing unilateral pre-compliance with the upcoming ceasefire in the face of SH-15, 155mm artillery fire,
4. Param Vir Chakra.. Hmm here it gets dicey as these are usually awarded posthumously. I guess the S-400 crew in Adampur, and Uddhampur may qualify, for valiantly shooting down all the CM-400AKG and saving the S-400 batteries and cheeseboard radar. Also, a possible female pilot who was the valiant " Valkyrie "of skies, shooting down 6 Pakistani F-16s in a single mission.

Every one of these chakras will be the basis for at least 12-15 Bollywood blockbuster epic movies raking in at least a billion USD.

Now don't you think all the above is worth one measly little star to Asim Munir heading a defeated "insurgent army" ( per Catherine Fair) .

Don't know what the term for Field Marshal is in Hindi . My Sanskrit is rusty ( उच्चत्तम सेना अध्यक्ष?). But CDS Lt. General Anil Chauhan certainly deserves an extra star. Don't understand why the delay
@TOPGUN @Master Chief @MasterChief @Mighty_Dragon_Strike@PK781 @Meengla @Terracotta Warrior @Vkdindian1 @Assault Rifle @BonPlan
@vasanthm

rumor is internally that 250 soldiers were smoked. our dudes did good in the LOC too, gave a good spanking

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

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Two people died after the wreckage of an aircraft, which crashed near Bathinda in early hours of May 7, exploded when people were trying to douse flames or were standing there.There has been no official word yet neither from the IAF nor the government about the identity of the plane. Pics of wreckage clearly point it to be an IAF Rafale.

Now the widow of one of the deceased is seeking compensation."The family of a Dalit man in Bathinda who died after an aircraft allegedly crashed and exploded on May 7 during the recent India-Pakistan conflict submitted a formal request last week seeking compensation from the government. Paramjit Kaur, the widow of Raj Kumar Singh –

the second victim who succumbed four days after the explosion – submitted the application to the Naib Tehsildar of Goniana in Bathinda.The first victim, Govind Kumar, 32, a farm labourer from Haryana, had died at the crash site. He was among those who had gathered immediately after the incident."


Hypocrites cannot stop saying Kargil Kargil.

Kargil was not a war. "Militants" were sent and they knew what they were getting in to.

Pakistan have honored all their shaheeds in operation Suhagrat/Sindoor. Didn't hide any civilian deaths.

oh dalit? Yeah government ignoring the request

 

[Baibers_1260]

@Terracotta Warrior @Assault Rifle @Vkdindian1 @BonPlan

That's fine.
Let's go by the Indian narrative and then analyze:
So accepting the Indian narrative:

• Not a "single pane of glass" was broken in Pakistani missile strikes.
• Every single missile Pakistan sent was intercepted.
• No satellite pictures of successful hits from Pakistan
• Massive damage to Pakistan's air bases and assets
• Massive damage to Pakistan's. nuclear capability

Now the questions:

A. Tactical:

1. Did India completely destroy Pakistan's, air defense systems, its airforce and airfields ?
2. Has India provided satellite pictures of "complete destruction " of airbases like Israel has provided on attacks on Iranian, Syrian airbases?
3. How many aircraft did India destroy on the ground in strikes on airbases in Pakistan ?
4. Has India provided satellite or drone pictures of destroyed aircraft similar to the way Ukraine has provided on destruction of Russian aircraft on Engels and other airbases.
5. Does India control air space over Pakistan, and are Indian combat aircraft currently operating over Pakistan?

B. Strategic and Diplomatic:

1. Since "India has won the war", why did India accept "Pakistan's request" for a ceasefire, instead of demanding a complete surrender and occupation like in East Pakistan in 1971 ?
2. Why a diplomatic initiative by sending delegations to multiple countries to "explain India's position" in the war which it won? Why was there no such diplomatic activity in previous wars that India "won" in 1965, 1971, 1999, 2019 ?
3. Since India has won the war (ceasefire is irrelevant) why are there official announcements saying the operation is paused and the ceasefire is temporary?
4. If the operational pause is temporary what sanctions or military control over Pakistan's borders, ports and airspace are in force, to prevent Pakistan from replenishing its weapons stockpiles and repairing its airbases? Example: Israel has a tight control over the air,land, sea borders over. Gaza, and prevents the enemy from renewing its weapons stockpiles.
5. How are Pakistani VIP, and commercial aircraft flying through the airspace of India's allies such as UAE, and Russia? Or more importantly how are these aircraft entering the USA which is India's QUAD ally? Example: Israel ensures Iranian aircraft don't fly through 80% of the established air routes through Europe, Middle East and North America,
6. How does Pakistan's surviving military "terrorist" leadership manage to travel outside Pakistan without fear of assassination by India?
7. How successful has India been in decapitating Pakistan's military leadership?
8. Why do India's generals have to go the international media and attend interviews then making vague statements admitting "losses ", and "numbers not important " etc ?. Example: Israeli generals give no such interviews on "losses"
9. As a $5 trillion economy and the world's third most powerful military power, why has India failed to get a condemnation of Pakistan at any regional or international forum ( BRICS, QUAD, UN, SCO, SAARC, G-7 ).?

@Master Chief @Assault Rifle @Pak Shaheen @nahtanbob @PK781@Mighty_Dragon_Strike @pwfi @Corax @TOPGUN @Yasser76

 

[Meengla]

Dude just end speculation and take a photo of your hand with the name BonPlan written on it. An American fellow did so to prove his was white American. Anyway, you don't have to but I though it was an idea at least.

I don't understand why some hide the Indian flag? There is another guy a 'Sam' something who claims to be 'American' with both American flags but he is clearly of Indian origin. No Westerners would inject so forcefully to defend India against Pakistan in this forum as some of them claiming to be Westerners do. It doesn't matter where someone is born: It is their origin and their sense of attachment. This forum is quite tolerant of dissent, with some exceptions, so no need to hide. And that applies to Pakistani origin members as well.

 

[Waz]

I don't understand why some hide the Indian flag? There is another guy a 'Sam' something who claims to be 'American' with both American flags but he is clearly of Indian origin. No Westerners would inject so forcefully to defend India against Pakistan in this forum as some of them claiming to be Westerners do. It doesn't matter where someone is born: It is their origin and their sense of attachment. This forum is quite tolerant of dissent, with some exceptions, so no need to hide. And that applies to Pakistani origin members as well.

Fool people and shape perceptions brother. I've caught out loads over the years.

 

[Yasser76]

@Terracotta Warrior @Assault Rifle @Vkdindian1 @BonPlan

That's fine.
Let's go by the Indian narrative and then analyze:
So accepting the Indian narrative:

• Not a "single pane of glass" was broken in Pakistani missile strikes.
• Every single missile Pakistan sent was intercepted.
• No satellite pictures of successful hits from Pakistan
• Massive damage to Pakistan's air bases and assets
• Massive damage to Pakistan's. nuclear capability

Now the questions:

A. Tactical:

1. Did India completely destroy Pakistan's, air defense systems, its airforce and airfields ?
2. Has India provided satellite pictures of "complete destruction " of airbases like Israel has provided on attacks on Iranian, Syrian airbases?
3. How many aircraft did India destroy on the ground in strikes on airbases in Pakistan ?
4. Has India provided satellite or drone pictures of destroyed aircraft similar to the way Ukraine has provided on destruction of Russian aircraft on Engels and other airbases.
5. Does India control air space over Pakistan, and are Indian combat aircraft currently operating over Pakistan?

B. Strategic and Diplomatic:

1. Since "India has won the war", why did India accept "Pakistan's request" for a ceasefire, instead of demanding a complete surrender and occupation like in East Pakistan in 1971 ?
2. Why a diplomatic initiative by sending delegations to multiple countries to "explain India's position" in the war which it won? Why was there no such diplomatic activity in previous wars that India "won" in 1965, 1971, 1999, 2019 ?
3. Since India has won the war (ceasefire is irrelevant) why are there official announcements saying the operation is paused and the ceasefire is temporary?
4. If the operational pause is temporary what sanctions or military control over Pakistan's borders, ports and airspace are in force, to prevent Pakistan from replenishing its weapons stockpiles and repairing its airbases? Example: Israel has a tight control over the air,land, sea borders over. Gaza, and prevents the enemy from renewing its weapons stockpiles.
5. How are Pakistani VIP, and commercial aircraft flying through the airspace of India's allies such as UAE, and Russia? Or more importantly how are these aircraft entering the USA which is India's QUAD ally? Example: Israel ensures Iranian aircraft don't fly through 80% of the established air routes through Europe, Middle East and North America,
6. How does Pakistan's surviving military "terrorist" leadership manage to travel outside Pakistan without fear of assassination by India?
7. How successful has India been in decapitating Pakistan's military leadership?
8. Why do India's generals have to go the international media and attend interviews then making vague statements admitting "losses ", and "numbers not important " etc ?. Example: Israeli generals give no such interviews on "losses"
9. As a $5 trillion economy and the world's third most powerful military power, why has India failed to get a condemnation of Pakistan at any regional or international forum ( BRICS, QUAD, UN, SCO, SAARC, G-7 ).?

@Master Chief @Assault Rifle @Pak Shaheen @nahtanbob @PK781@Mighty_Dragon_Strike @pwfi @Corax @TOPGUN @Yasser76

Call the police, there has just been a murder....!

 

[Yasser76]

Dude just end speculation and take a photo of your hand with the name BonPlan written on it. An American fellow did so to prove his was white American. Anyway, you don't have to but I though it was an idea at least.

He now has to have an awkward conversation with his white Uber boss....

 

[BlackenTheSky]

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I am confused

Dude just end speculation and take a photo of your hand with the name BonPlan written on it. An American fellow did so to prove his was white American. Anyway, you don't have to but I though it was an idea at least.

 

[Distant_Observer]

No propaganda. Another point of view.
I gave so many clues about the fact I'm french (nearly pure one : born in Belgium, raised in France, working in France, probably will die in France). You choose to igonore it : OK. your problem.

 

[Areesh]

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Two people died after the wreckage of an aircraft, which crashed near Bathinda in early hours of May 7, exploded when people were trying to douse flames or were standing there.There has been no official word yet neither from the IAF nor the government about the identity of the plane. Pics of wreckage clearly point it to be an IAF Rafale.

Now the widow of one of the deceased is seeking compensation."The family of a Dalit man in Bathinda who died after an aircraft allegedly crashed and exploded on May 7 during the recent India-Pakistan conflict submitted a formal request last week seeking compensation from the government. Paramjit Kaur, the widow of Raj Kumar Singh –

the second victim who succumbed four days after the explosion – submitted the application to the Naib Tehsildar of Goniana in Bathinda.The first victim, Govind Kumar, 32, a farm labourer from Haryana, had died at the crash site. He was among those who had gathered immediately after the incident."


Hypocrites cannot stop saying Kargil Kargil.

Kargil was not a war. "Militants" were sent and they knew what they were getting in to.

Pakistan have honored all their shaheeds in operation Suhagrat/Sindoor. Didn't hide any civilian deaths.

This should be a lie

That James Bond 007 of shershah kabari market has said that not even a window was broken in India in Pakistani attacks then how come these two people die because of aircrfat wrecakge??

Looks like a fake story

 

[Areesh]

No propaganda. Another point of view.
I gave so many clues about the fact I'm french (nearly pure one : born in Belgium, raised in France, working in France, probably will die in France). You choose to igonore it : OK. your problem.

Look brother

Indians which we call p@jeets have a very distanct filthy smell. One can easily feel that smell from even a forum post due to extent of filth

All of your posts have that smell. It is impossible that you are not an indian

So stop wasting our time pretending to be a French or Belgian and just correct your flags and continue with getting humiliated on our hands on this forum like other Indians

 

[Ali_Baba]

Dude just end speculation and take a photo of your hand with the name BonPlan written on it. An American fellow did so to prove his was white American. Anyway, you don't have to but I though it was an idea at least.

I did once ask him to prove he was white french by taking a picture of himself with the latest french newspaper on one hand, and a freshly made baguette in the other and something else(i forget what) but it was somehow rude enough that the mods deleted my post for it!

I am now glad the mods see some value and merit in my post that they deleted !!!

 

[Corax]

AT least one thinking I'm french ! But of course a son of Laval or Petain, isn't it?

Whether you're French or indian, it's like the difference between gonorrhoea or syphilis, either way you're screwed.

 

[Terracotta Warrior]

@Terracotta Warrior @Assault Rifle @Vkdindian1 @BonPlan

That's fine.
Let's go by the Indian narrative and then analyze:
So accepting the Indian narrative:

• Not a "single pane of glass" was broken in Pakistani missile strikes.
• Every single missile Pakistan sent was intercepted.
• No satellite pictures of successful hits from Pakistan
• Massive damage to Pakistan's air bases and assets
• Massive damage to Pakistan's. nuclear capability

Now the questions:

A. Tactical:

1. Did India completely destroy Pakistan's, air defense systems, its airforce and airfields ?
2. Has India provided satellite pictures of "complete destruction " of airbases like Israel has provided on attacks on Iranian, Syrian airbases?
3. How many aircraft did India destroy on the ground in strikes on airbases in Pakistan ?
4. Has India provided satellite or drone pictures of destroyed aircraft similar to the way Ukraine has provided on destruction of Russian aircraft on Engels and other airbases.
5. Does India control air space over Pakistan, and are Indian combat aircraft currently operating over Pakistan?

B. Strategic and Diplomatic:

1. Since "India has won the war", why did India accept "Pakistan's request" for a ceasefire, instead of demanding a complete surrender and occupation like in East Pakistan in 1971 ?
2. Why a diplomatic initiative by sending delegations to multiple countries to "explain India's position" in the war which it won? Why was there no such diplomatic activity in previous wars that India "won" in 1965, 1971, 1999, 2019 ?
3. Since India has won the war (ceasefire is irrelevant) why are there official announcements saying the operation is paused and the ceasefire is temporary?
4. If the operational pause is temporary what sanctions or military control over Pakistan's borders, ports and airspace are in force, to prevent Pakistan from replenishing its weapons stockpiles and repairing its airbases? Example: Israel has a tight control over the air,land, sea borders over. Gaza, and prevents the enemy from renewing its weapons stockpiles.
5. How are Pakistani VIP, and commercial aircraft flying through the airspace of India's allies such as UAE, and Russia? Or more importantly how are these aircraft entering the USA which is India's QUAD ally? Example: Israel ensures Iranian aircraft don't fly through 80% of the established air routes through Europe, Middle East and North America,
6. How does Pakistan's surviving military "terrorist" leadership manage to travel outside Pakistan without fear of assassination by India?
7. How successful has India been in decapitating Pakistan's military leadership?
8. Why do India's generals have to go the international media and attend interviews then making vague statements admitting "losses ", and "numbers not important " etc ?. Example: Israeli generals give no such interviews on "losses"
9. As a $5 trillion economy and the world's third most powerful military power, why has India failed to get a condemnation of Pakistan at any regional or international forum ( BRICS, QUAD, UN, SCO, SAARC, G-7 ).?

@Master Chief @Assault Rifle @Pak Shaheen @nahtanbob @PK781@Mighty_Dragon_Strike @pwfi @Corax @TOPGUN @Yasser76

• Not a "single pane of glass" was broken in Pakistani missile strikes. - multiple hits across population centres and military stations. 21 civilians and 8 military person died. Only one civilain casualty outside of J&K
• Every single missile Pakistan sent was intercepted. - multiple hits as mentioned earlier
• No satellite pictures of successful hits from Pakistan - i didn't see any, please share if you have any
• Massive damage to Pakistan's air bases and assets - saw atleast 8 images of different airbases with hits on runways and hangers
• Massive damage to Pakistan's. nuclear capability - one missile hit in a place called kirana hills. Heard the name for the first time, so dont know if has any facility or not
  
  
• A. Tactical:
  1. Did India completely destroy Pakistan's, air defense systems, its airforce and airfields ? not at all. do you have BDA of S-400 ?
  2. Has India provided satellite pictures of "complete destruction " of airbases like Israel has provided on attacks on Iranian, Syrian airbases? partially yes. shared images of hits but no way closer to complete destruction
  3. How many aircraft did India destroy on the ground in strikes on airbases in Pakistan ? - no satellite or imaging proof of it provided . do you have proof of the other 3 Rafale downed as claimed by PAF
  4. Has India provided satellite or drone pictures of destroyed aircraft similar to the way Ukraine has provided on destruction of Russian aircraft on Engels and other airbases. - IAF - Bhatinda - Rafale confirmed, Srinagar - Mirage 2000 Confirmed. One more Mig29 as seen in a video .. where are the rest of plans as claimed by PAF ?
  5. Does India control air space over Pakistan, and are Indian combat aircraft currently operating over Pakistan? both the airforces were flying few hundred KM inside their own airspace
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• Please share proof of S-400 in Udhampur and Bhuj
• 3 more downed Rafales
• airsuperiority over J&F and north India