Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

rafale said:
I think some clearances were delayed due to civilian airliners in Pakistani and Indian airspaces because the Mad Dogs that these filthy Indians are didn't care.

Also, why would the total lockable jets be 10-12? They had 72 jets up in air and we had around 40......that'll be potentially 80 BVR missiles on the lower end........so could have taken out more of IAF???

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I could explain in detail but i would end up giving away too much information unnecessarily. People really think it's that simple to lock, shoot and get a kill.

PAF aircrafts were flying fairly inside our airspace - our mission was to assure kills while denying own loss. The S400 threat was real - and it was first time PAF was facing it in a real combat.

We fought the battle with force concentration in our own selected areas and at our own strength as the AVM also highlighted. Also you need to validate certain firing parameters before launching the missile to get a high probability of kill.

It's a very complex mission planning. Not simple as that.
 
Foinikas said:
I'm not denying,I'm just asking where are the videos.
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Thread 'Pakistan Air Force/air defense confirmed kills with visual confirmation in Pakistan -india conflict'

Please post any videos which confirm kills, this evidence can be visual identification or local witness audio in the video if its far to see visual

Please verify your photos vidoes/fact check them

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1000171122.jpg1000171121.jpg1- Bathinda, Punjab — 90KM from the border.

Tail & engine visible; confirmed by French intelligence officials to be a Rafale.

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There are many more videos available.. especially for the punjab debire and the one for Kashmir (mig29)

Most sad part is how the pilots were Dishonored, its clear punjabi, local saying the pilots are dead but they was never acknowledged by military

This only happens in north Korea or rarely in Russia not even Chinese would do so
 
Areesh said:
Four fighter are confirmed

But indians won't admit it due to lack of shame. This lack of shame is the biggest weapon Indians have right now. They can't lose any conflict with this weapon in their arsenal
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You have clear debire for four but i am pretty sure its 5, since there is partial debrie of 5th fighter of French origin
 
side-winder said:
I could explain in detail but i would end up giving away too much information unnecessarily. People really think it's that simple to lock, shoot and get a kill.

PAF aircrafts were flying fairly inside our airspace - our mission was to assure kills while denying own loss. The S400 threat was real - and it was first time PAF was facing it in a real combat.

We fought the battle with force concentration in our own selected areas and at our own strength as the AVM also highlighted. Also you need to validate certain firing parameters before launching the missile to get a high probability of kill.

It's a very complex mission planning. Not simple as that.
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There is another factor of coordination guidelines from NSC and construeing of those guidelines by AVM at ops level.

It’s not like the ops display is showing J-10 in valid firing parameters and pilot confirms - then AVM has to go “daak babu, mera khat le jao, Hafiz jee ko de ao, J-10C ke nishane mein Rafale aya hai”

Its his or rather commanders at that point at the end to authorize it or not within a few seconds or even less to meet the RoE.

In that decision loop
“Kill assured or not”
“Deny own loss or not”
“Potential debris location”
“Diplomatic ramifications of who and how kill happens”
“Political ramifications for me if kill was overzealous”

Too hasty and you may lead to a even more nasty response from India.
Too late and you perhaps miss a valid kill but satisfy restraint guidelines.
Guess which one is the safer bet?


Same reason why Gen B gave even stricter guidelines for 2019 and PAF commanders kept a tight leash.
 
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Areesh said:
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IAF chief says S400 shot down 6 Pakistani aircraft

Meanwhile Indian defense expert says S400 is shit since he can't see any hit of S400 :)
 
Areesh said:
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What is he trying to say anyway?
S-400s were picked off by drones in Ukraine
Israel hit radars and TELs.
Heck even Azeris picked out systems using drones.
 
Panzerkiel said:
They are preparing for strike in an area other than highlighted in recent NOTAMs.
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Hi sir. Just a bit curious. Are we stopping them from strikes.? If they really want to strike, they do easily now. Like how they used both Brahmos LACM and ALCM(from safe distance). I don't think we can stop it(if it comes in numbers) but can certainly retaliate.
 
Oscar said:
What is he trying to say anyway?
S-400s were picked off by drones in Ukraine
Israel hit radars and TELs.
Heck even Azeris picked out systems using drones.
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He is pro USA, he wants India to join the USA more meaningfully
 
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