Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Tomcats]

Look at these dumbfucks who think that's the location to deploy a TPS77 radar. Among the towering hangars and trees offering perfect screening to the radiations of Radar and giving a blank area on scope.

4 months after the war still coming up with bullshit stories.

P.S i know exactly where TPS77 is deployed at Jacobabad.

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Size and shape seems consistent with TPS77 and historical satellite imagery show RAC-3D deployed in that spot. So it is a site being used by radars, what the rationale is, I do not know. Now whether it got hit or not is a matter of debate as it cannot be conclusively determined from current footage released by India.

For context here is an image of the same site in 2022 on GE, shows RAC-3D radar being present there at the time.

 

[side-winder]

Size and shape seems consistent with TPS77 and historical satellite imagery show RAC-3D deployed in that spot. So it is a site being used by radars, what the rationale is, I do not know. Now whether it got hit or not is a matter of debate as it cannot be conclusively determined from current footage released by India.

For context here is an image of the same site in 2022 on GE, shows RAC-3D radar being present there at the time.
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I could show you where that TPS is deoloyed on google earth. However - that would necessarily mean putting Opsec at risk.

That's not an active site of radar for reasons i have already explained - i wouldn't like to go into further details.

For reference another imagery from 2022. That site is used for a separate purpose instead of being an active site. Anyway this site was never hit in the first place.

 

[Vkdindian1]

There is a different scenario to consider now. It’s possible India uses similar tactics as Ukraine and aircraft serve purely in weapons and more importantly multi axis threat creation uses. Perhaps once they have astra or Rafale comes out again with Meteor put up a fight but their focus seems to be shifting to total SAM saturation.
This is going to create a lot of issues for PAF and more importantly Pakistan ADGE because it may give IaF brackets where they can do combination weapon launches of Lora or Rampage in coordination with ground launched brahmos to create multiple track solution problems and get @side-winder to sweat a little.

You could potentially force PAF to operate defensive over LoC and other areas - launch a multi pronged attack and keep a secondhand fighter package in depth but enough that its stand off range - and as soon as Pakistan AD comes online and your bizjet based and other elint assets pick it up launch a Lora or additional Brahmos attacks on AD engaging.

Sheer number of targets will have that Pakistan AD take a battering and then you’ve reduced force further and PAF fighters have to take up slack on additional defense sorties.

Now you have the chance to replicate what the Egyptians did in 73 by slowly pushing AD forward and look to push PAF back. Take the territory you need by simple overwhelming numbers and on the seaborne side throw everything you have to end the PN story.

Wont be a walk in the park but if they truly have an appetite for certain loss thresholds they can humble Pakistan in a very short time.

Each time an escalation takes place, it is likely to be different from the last one. Atleast 2019 and 2025 have shown us that.

You are giving a lot of credit to India, but I am inclined towards PAF in creating surprises.

The attack on 10 May by India was a measured one and it was definitely a successful one considering the number of weapons launched and number of hit achieved. Many people may disagree, but I do believe that Indian intent was to keep it to a level where escalation was not warranted or expected.

In the next round, each side can resort to scaling up the level of attack. India could go in to saturate PAF bases and disable them (though temporarily). Pakistan has already shown it in a limited way with PL-15s.

That could be the reason that both the sides are racing to bolster AD further and also stocking up on long range precision weapons.
The number of domains in play could also increase. Limited usage of Navies and Army troops could also be used. And that could stretch the non-escalatory aspect to its limits.
In fact it could lead to a full escalation.
Munir in position of strength, US support and simmering addition of water sharing, the situation is a tinderbox.

 

[Princeps]

I believe - all the members here have acknowledged the damage to SAAB - nobody really said 'scratchless' - majority believes it minor - i don't believe it's minor as i have already highlighted somewhere earlier.

Me and Oscar highlighted same thing about S400. It went offline after PAF strikes and that allowed our fighters to operate with more freedom close to the LoC.

Hope this post below makes sense now after a tacit admission from indian side.

Post in thread '8 Pakistan Air Force Officers Awarded Sitara =e-Jurat Medals' https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...arded-sitara-e-jurat-medals.25963/post-884802

Sir, I missed some of your older posts, can I ask some questions regarding 10 May on discord or message here? Nothing confidential, it's just that information on that is very scarce.

 

[side-winder]

Sir, I missed some of your older posts, can I ask some questions regarding 10 May on discord or message here? Nothing confidential, it's just that information on that is very scarce.

Im sure most would have already been answered. Anyway - if it doesn't compromise anything - sure.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Size and shape seems consistent with TPS77 and historical satellite imagery show RAC-3D deployed in that spot. So it is a site being used by radars, what the rationale is, I do not know. Now whether it got hit or not is a matter of debate as it cannot be conclusively determined from current footage released by India.

For context here is an image of the same site in 2022 on GE, shows RAC-3D radar being present there at the time.
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Can you please use some common sense before posting such a post ? Is it "logical" to you that a long range radar would be placed inbetween two buildings? And, that at the time of combat operations ?

 

[Areesh]

This one is true - it was a building housing some power equipment. They intended to take out the electricity of Base however Shahbaz does not rely on single point of electricity failure.

So this building was hit but damage again was minor?

 

[side-winder]

So this building was hit but damage again was minor?

One of the S/by power sources remained N/A for couple of days.

 

[rafale]

There is a big array of cooling towers next to this building. What kind of power generation source would need this kind of cooling? Generators are kept in open or at best under sheds and don’t need any cooling systems like this one. It has to be some special equipment which needed such an industrial scale of cooling.

Secondly, the hole in the roof is a small one and there seems to be no damage to the building like that in Bholari. What could be the weapon? Could it be due to weapon failing to explode?

Your observation about multiple power sources for an air base are bang on.

Plenty of types i can tell you that will benefit from such cooling towers.

Jacobabad is hot and dry weather......cooling towers especially those with water dripping in them would do wonders in rejecting lots of heat very quickly from whatever system they are designed to cool.

 

[rafale]

This one is true - it was a building housing some power equipment. They intended to take out the electricity of Base however Shahbaz does not rely on single point of electricity failure.

Yea, i am assuming since Shahbaz was beefed up and used by Americans, the design would have included multiple power source redundancies including localized Diesel Gensets in various buildings/areas around the base. Plus you always have UPS or DC systems from battery to provide the most critical back up power.

 

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[tman786]

A very cool animation by our Chinese brothers about the whooping the Indians received in the recent air skirmish

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Every action Pak takes against the Hindutva Bharat is Halal and Masum. May HE bless us both in this Dunya and the next Akhiret for taking the stance with Pakistan, bulit on the basis of the Two Nation Theory (Muslimin and Mujrimin are two Ummets in the Akhiret as per the KITAP), against Bharat. Maybe it might be the most important cause for our Nejat on the Roz-i Hashr....

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

India confirm that PAF attacked S-400.

 

[Hayabusa]

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A compelling X thread exposing how India intentionally misled its citizens by circulating a mixture of manipulated and genuine satellite images to exaggerate reported damages. This appears to be a calculated effort to stoke nationalist sentiment and reinforce a narrative of dominance by Modi.

However make no mistake that Pakistan was indeed struck by BrahMos and there is gaps to improve in future conflict.

Open the X thread and read further down to understand the analysis.