Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Vkdindian1 said:
These procurements are to fill gaping holes in the inventory of the defence forces.
In the past many governments including this have been sleeping over induction of equipment for the defence forces. After every skirmish a lip service is paid and noises made to get more stuff but nothing ever happens.
Look at fighter squadron strength, AWACS, BVRs and many many more areas that have gone to dumps due to apathy.
Considering two active fronts many more S-400s and more systems are required.
There is only talk right now. Talk to Induction can be many decades away.
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But it's still a threat. Any country serious about it's national security would strike when they the edge even if a decade from now, we would never be able to match India in AD and God forbid if you guys actually learned some lessons from this times fk up.
 
falcon34 said:
But it's still a threat. Any country serious about it's national security would strike when they the edge even if a decade from now, we would never be able to match India in AD and God forbid if you guys actually learned some lessons from this times fk up.
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Yes. Pakistan has to analyse each thing and take a decision for themselves.

As far as fk ups go, both sides had plenty. The ones by Indians were a little more visible due to aerial loss of aircraft.

But, a preemptive strike? I have a doubt, that would be done by Pakistan. Because, Munir and co, knows very well the repercussions if India comes full bore. A glimpse of that was given by India all through, AFTER 7th May. And I am not trolling.

Your establishment has learnt from it and Rocket force is the biggest decision. There must be many more regarding AD.
Indian side too has plenty to absorb and work on.
 
Vkdindian1 said:
Yes. Pakistan has to analyse each thing and take a decision for themselves.

As far as fk ups go, both sides had plenty. The ones by Indians were a little more visible due to aerial loss of aircraft.

But, a preemptive strike? I have a doubt, that would be done by Pakistan. Because, Munir and co, knows very well the repercussions if India comes full bore. A glimpse of that was given by India all through, AFTER 7th May. And I am not trolling.

Your establishment has learnt from it and Rocket force is the biggest decision. There must be many more regarding AD.
Indian side too has plenty to absorb and work on.
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Those were fireworks the airbases you targeted, Aircraft flew from to lob CM400s on S400s from those very bases, it's the admission of your airchief that CM400 hit the positions of S400s. The C&C node at Barnala is covered with heavy tarps with excavation going on around it.
Yes India had the volume of missiles fired but expect bohlari no target of consequence were hit, whilst PAF from the 6-7th may had precisely picking up and hitting IAF where it hurt the most.
But yes the decision making was fked up after downing the jets the retaliation came too late, we have apparently no long range CMs or BMs for conventional use ready.
India took the lead in rapid decision making. Had we done the same with IAF on 8th things would have been different. That's what upsets me the most, with Saudis we might become even more pacifist.
The PISET Constellation of satellite do point to some sort of preemptive strikes posture.
 
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falcon34 said:
Those were fireworks the airbases you targeted, Aircraft flew from to lob CM400s on S400s from those very bases, it's the admission of your airchief that CM400 hit the positions of S400s. The C&C node at Barnala is covered with heavy tarps with excavation going on around it.
Yes India had the volume of missiles fired but expect bohlari no target of consequence were hit, whilst PAF from the 6-7th may had precisely picking up and hitting IAF where it hurt the most.
But yes the decision making was fked up after downing the jets the retaliation came too late, we have apparently no long range CMs or BMs for conventional use ready.
India took the lead in rapid decision making. Had we done the same with IAF on 8th things would have been different. That's what upsets me the most, with Saudis we might become even more pacifist.
The PISET Constellation of satellite do point to some sort of preemptive strikes posture.
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I agree on few and disagree on few other points.
There are many ifs and buts involved in narratives for both the sides.

I do believe that no adversary should ever be taken lightly.
 
Oscar said:
SAMs aren’t the real concern - it’s the ancillary equipment for the EW domain which has been bought in droves with advisors from usual suppliers providing complete playbooks in the most easy “EW for dummies” form along with setting up part ML based sequencing with that equipment.

If they use it effectively they can do a complete rout of Pakistan.

If they still manage to screw it up then at that point Pakistan should just launch an offensive with Al Zarrars and Toyota Hiluxs at the lead and expect to have a Pakistan flag flying at Dehli Fort.

What they received in both equipment and training as per what I’ve heard is idiot proof.
You HAVE TO MAKE AN EFFORT to Sabotage success in multi domain warfare with all the help and training they have been receiving so far.
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And what we have done to counter that?.
 
News of all routes being closed in AJK after 12 according to Awami action committee. Apparently protests have been going on there but nothing is being reported by our media
 
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Hey Modi, did you say Operation Sindoor is going on?
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Accidental grenade blast as per local sources.

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Accidental grenade blast as per local sources.

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Either Indian soldier committed a suicide or freedom fighters attacked which GOI is covering up.
 
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