Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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Princeps
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Please be sensible, India was never gonna accept a ceasefire before it got a face saving chance. India wanted Pakistan to retaliate so it could carry out further strikes of its own. When Pakistan was taking its time, India started attacking with drones on 8 may and then missiles on the night of 9 and 10th to provoke Pakistan into attacking.
It's funny that India claimed Pakistan was attacking it on 8th and 9th, yet not a single debris of a Pakistani drone or missile was seen on these days.
Ali_Baba
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India got its faced smacked on the first night with the shoot down of 7 Indian fighter jets. It was humiliating for them…
It tried to, in its mind, even the balance by striking with missiles and drones, but thought the better of it when Pakistan responded in kind and added some interest payments on top for good measure.
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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they never realized Marco Rubio was negotiating ceasefire on their behalf!
for next time though, they have prepared IBG, which can act independently and swiftly. So, as both sides start to nego. room for timely Pak. (bigger) response gets small.
that means, fight will only take place inside Pak. border, under the guise of 'false flags'!
ARMalik
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Very good to hear this. Pakistan needs to take the fight to these cowards - they will run away like the ugly cowards they really are.
side-winder
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The impression is as if 10th May was a total Indian domination and Indian side walked scot-free.
Would be very convincing - If it weren't the Indian Babus themselves admitting certain things.
1. We all know from the OSINT videos about the smoke plumes rising from Indian bases / other military installations - that alot of projectiles did go through Indian AD network - the only thing remained doubtful was the accuracy of strikes.
2. Everyone had doubts about the accuracy including most of pakistanis given the absence of SAT imageries - Well, once again, who other than IAF chief himself - "2-4 weapon unkay usi jaga giray jahan hmara S400 pehly laga hua tha" - what's interesting is that PAF didn't launch a barrage of CM400s on S400 rather same "2-4 weapon" on S400 positions. All hitting exactly where PAF wanted to. Well - the example alone speaks of precision and inability of Indian AD to intercept PAF air launched munitions - doesn't it? Now PAF did launch alot more munitions than just "2-4 targetting at S400".
3. Now add to that - initial self admissions about damage from indian side - gallantry awards to medical personnel - few casualties of IAF personnel (ref IAF chief visiting families)
4. That story of S400 launchers catching fire during Pakistan Strikes is yet another absurdity which doesn't add up - it suggests S400 was active during Pakistani Strikes initially and got temporarily unavailable. If it was active initially - there was no way JF-17s had invalid strike co-ordinates - you exactly know the location when S400s start spitting up missiles. Reference Indian VCOAS's admission about Pakistan having live ISR visibility of "Indian prime ready-to-strike vectors". So how come PAF hit exact locations of S400 where the system had already moved from and not where it was re-deployed to.
5. Even if we assume S400 had indeed relocated - how is this argument about "they hit locations where we had already re-located from" different from "PAF had already evacuated those hangars"? It's basically the same thing being said here in both cases. No? But one is touted as "capability of masterful pinpoint accuracy" no matter the actual damage --- But the other doesn't mean a thing --- just "dud" and utter failure.
The bottom line - it's not as if 10th was all about PAF bases getting banged while Indian side had nothing to worry about while enjoying total domination - the ceasefire happened because both sides came to realize the serious gaps and weaknesses in their respective areas of concern - and both knew what was coming up with next step of escalation ladder. Trump's phone calls only worked as a catalyst.
Trailer23
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Yaar, har kuch din baad ees chut!ya ko BJP chabbi dai kar activate kar daitay hain.
Even the Indian Military does NOT take him seriously.
On a side note, anyone who may have seen Masters of the Universe from the early 80's might confuse Rajnath Singh with 'Skeletor'.
Even the Indian Military does NOT take him seriously.
On a side note, anyone who may have seen Masters of the Universe from the early 80's might confuse Rajnath Singh with 'Skeletor'.
Gregor Clegane
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No videos emerged of any smokes plumes from Indian bases.
Only videos of smoke plumes were from Damtal forests which is 3 km away from pathankot airbase and another was of smoke plumes from Nagrota forests, also 2 km away from Corps HQ.
Remaining were plumes from civilian areas of Rajoruri, Jammu and Poonch and even Srinagar dal lake.
Gregor Clegane
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Only two medical personnel were awarded. Both of them were posted at Station Medicare centre in Udhampur and one of them Surendra Mona's death was announced publicly on 10th itself (this was the one and only family that CAS visited, not multiple families).
ARMalik
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But I reckon Skeletor still had a very impressive personality. This fellow is like a giant douche bag.
side-winder
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I really feel sorry for you guys.
You guys build up a whole narrative about complete indian domination out of imagination and suddenly out of nowhere your babus come up for themselves and bust the entire bubble.
1. Bakhts remained in denial about aircrafts despite clear evidence of wreckages until CDS shb himself had to come and admit the losses.
2. Bakhts remained in denial about super duper IAF's incompetency to counter tiny PAF in air instead blaming the political restraints until the Chief sahb himself had to say there were no political restraints.
3. Bakhts remained in denial about damages to their bases until Ms. Vyomika had to come and state on record about "damage to personnel and equipment".
4. Bakhts twisted the story again saying "limited damage" means broken glasses and windows only - until the IAF chief was seen visiting families of IAF personnel who lost their lives.
5. Bakhts remained in denial about accuracy of PAF strikes and one fine day their air chief comes up and says "2-4 weapon unkay usi jaga giray jahan S400 pehlay laga hua tha".
6. Bakhts remained in delusion about S400 going scratchless and shooting everything left and right - and one fine day they get a news about a guy getting commendation award for 'repairing S400 launchers on fire for technical glitches'.
7. Bakhts remained in delusions about complete domination over Pakistanis in all domains after 7th - and suddenly the VCOAS comes up outlining lessons from sindoor giving special mention to some indigenous AD systems that didn't perform well and how Pakistan had superior ISR and EW capabilities where indian side seriously needs to work on.
Don't you guys feel any embarrassment for having got your fantasies busted by your own officials so many times? - while there has been hardly any talk from Pakistani military after the conflict had ended - your officials on the other hand drop a new admission bomb on you guys every other day
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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what are you trying to say, dude?!!!!
how can you say, no videos emerged?!
have you seen all the videos (seems your population has come before sample!)
can you verify even that videos have emerged are indeed, the only ones to exist in the first place?!!
did you ask that question?!!!
no! so please, either come with answers or be open towards other opinions!
Gregor Clegane
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Wrong again.
Only family that IAF chief visited was that of Surendra Moga who's death was announced publicly by IAF on 10th May itself. No other family was visited by him.
That speaks volumes about how poor and outdated PAF ISR capability is as S400 moved out well before PAF could hit it.
Again made up story.
He never ever said S400 launcher was on fire. He only said there was a technical glitch which he repaired in 15 mins and fired two missiles from same launcher.
That is completely made up.
He never said Pakistan had superior ISR and EW capabilities.
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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can you access this video?!
I have noticed, your replies have come before 'your desire to evaluate evidence!'
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