Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Here is my contention with the overall and also PAF specific RoE.

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What is this chivalry to let “save face”
Either you are lying regarding such claims or you are naive. They are you enemy - they make no qualms of wanting to take hook or crook to kill you and you’re supposedly sparing HVAs which are then used to guide precise attacks against you avoiding your CAPs.

Mind boggling how this is a “moment of pride”
 
Oscar said:
Here is my contention with the overall and also PAF specific RoE.

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What is this chivalry to let “save face”
Either you are lying regarding such claims or you are naive. They are you enemy - they make no qualms of wanting to take hook or crook to kill you and you’re supposedly sparing HVAs which are then used to guide precise attacks against you avoiding your CAPs.

Mind boggling how this is a “moment of pride”
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That is just PAF claims without an iota of Proof.
Satellite images do not support PAF claims of strikes at all.
Which is why both RUSI and Stimson Center declared IAF the winner of May 10th.
 
baqai said:
I think it would be naval misadventure this time because they haven't tried it yet, this will only be done if the other front is active (Afghanistan) or we are busy with some internal problems
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it will be easier for them to hide the sunken ship... they will say look there is are debris like the rafals, the ship is just being painted so we cannot show it.
 
Deterrence against India and Indias capacity is something I've thought a lot about. Very clearly there's a huge gap between the two. For most countries the gap is small, but for India unfortunately it's huge. I mean even the current pakistan military should technically be enough to deter them because in terms of capacity India is quite stunted...but their overblown sense of self and inside directed propaganda machine means that there is no deterrence. People at NDU should do theses on this gap and how to address it. So the question is can we even deter India? what will it take? Do we need to become USA? will that even fail in the face of india SuPerPoWeR? No rocket force can counter Indian social media propaganda for their own people.
 
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We should be ready. 24 october to 4 november. anything can happen. I think india will again target pakistan while staying away from paf reach which is 500km away. We will see massive drone attacks targeting paf bases and similar attacks from brahmos. India is watching ukraine russia war closely and learning new tactics. India and afghanistan has secret agreement. Afghans did things purposefully with the bodies of our soldiers. They want full scale war and talibans are already prepared for all of this.

I think from 24 october to 4 november, we will see two front. If we attack afghanistan again, this will give opportunity to india. This is their script. I don't know what's our script. If they attack karachi this time then all the redlines will be crossed and i hope pakistan will not bend it's knees before trump. We shouldn't sacrifice our honor. We must not listen to United States this time. We should not worry about targeting important assets of enemy. We should hit enemy very hard this time and if our glide bombs aren't working then find solution and bomb the crap out of india.

I am expecting ground invasion of indian armed forces this time. we should worry. It's not like walk in the park. They will come with different strategy.
 
JamD said:
Deterrence against India and Indias capacity is something I've thought a lot about. Very clearly there's a huge gap between the two. For most countries the gap is small, but for India unfortunately it's huge. I mean even the current pakistan military should technically be enough to deter them because in terms of capacity India is quite stunted...but their overblown sense of self and inside directed propaganda machine means that there is no deterrence. People at NDU should do theses on this gap and how to address it. So the question is can we even deter India? what will it take? Do we need to become USA? will that even fail in the face of india SuPerPoWeR? No rocket force can counter Indian social media propaganda for their own people.
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What is needed is creating actual fear that the propaganda machine fails.
Blow up something in their cities - their homes - so they truly feel fear that propaganda cannot change.

That is idea of shock and awe. Otherwise you could dismantle the entire IAF ADGE and if “blind lords” cannot see or experience anything then they will continue to cite this or that for self gratification.
 
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