Pakistan is getting dry

[Jaeger]

How did the treaty become "gone"?

Let me correct myself then.

The treaty as it was is now gone as far as India is concerned.

If treaty were to be ever implemented again.

It will need to be regonatiated for a more equitable distribution of water, taking in to account current and future realities of the water needs of the two countries.

 

[Yasser76]

Let me correct myself then.

The treaty as it was is now gone as far as India is concerned.

If treaty were to be ever implemented again.

It will need to be regonatiated for a more equitable distribution of water, taking in to account current and future realities of the water needs of the two countries.

Nah, just go ahead and block the water then send over some Rafales......

 

[Jaeger]

Nah, just go ahead and block the water then send over some Rafales......

We will take what we have to, but not more than our fill or less than our need.

You will get the rest, and you can use, store or waste that water.

And if you want come let's fight.

 

[Yasser76]

We will take what we have to, but not more than our fill or less than our need.

You will get the rest, and you can use, store or waste that water.

And if you want come let's fight.

Yeah, please spare us the sanctamonious BS, of course Pakistan will fight, only an idiot (and granted Modi and his cabinet fit that description) would not have learnt that lesson.

On the other hand, lets just see if this is all hot air that just appeals to the base instincts of Indians such as yourself and he has the balls to carry out his threats. Going by past form you will be on this thread 3 years from now boasting about "we will" this and "soon to be" that.

 

[Jaeger]

Yeah, please spare us the sanctamonious BS, of course Pakistan will fight, only an idiot (and granted Modi and his cabinet fit that description) would not have learnt that lesson.

On the other hand, lets just see if this is all hot air that just appeals to the base instincts of Indians such as yourself and he has the balls to carry out his threats. Going by past form you will be on this thread 3 years from now boasting about "we will" this and "soon to be" that.

It is not threat.

You didn't believe that article 370 could be removed. That is history now.

You didn't believe that IWT could be scrapped, that too is history now.

 

[Master Chief]

The treaty as it was is now gone as far as India is concerned.

Did India break the treaty?

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[Yasser76]

It is not threat.

You didn't believe that article 370 could be removed. That is history now.

You didn't believe that IWT could be scrapped, that too is history now.

On the ground nothing has changed so keep talking and posting and wasting our time till it does.....

 

[Yasser76]

Did India break the treaty?

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Can you imagine how these guys must cope with real life?

 

[Master Chief]

Can you imagine how these guys must cope with real life?

As if a single one of the clowns posting here has even 1 atom's worth the intellectual capacity of either Michael Howard or Jeremy Paxman. Honestly, if these guys dodged the question in as eloquent a manner as Howard, I would applaud them for effort alone!

The problem is the Bollywood horde mentality, where "water and blood don't flow together saar!", as if such a soundbite has any legal validity whatsoever. Because of this mentality, legally qualified professionals need to dumb themselves down to explain that actually, riparian law and the IWT don't work like that. Imagine being one of the authors of this following paper on the matter and wondering why you even have to waste your time explaining the obvious. Hindustanis have been dumbed down, deliberately of course, such that their vote banks are easily secured for generations. But this is the reality we now face!

A Treaty on the Brink? India’s Suspension of the IWT and the Case for Cooperative Transboundary Water Governance - International Water Law Project Blog

The Indus Waters Treaty (IWT), a framework for India-Pakistan water cooperation since 1960, faces crisis due to India's suspension amid geopolitical tensions and alleged Pakistani support for terrorism. Legal grounds cited by India for suspension lack validity under international law...

www.internationalwaterlaw.org

 

[Jaeger]

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Are you getting the hydological data, as the treaty requires for India to provide?

Are you being invited for pre inspection of all the new projects, India is currently building on the Indus rivers?

Does Indus water commission still meet once a year?

So you tell us is treaty still intact?

 

[royalharris]

Correct. Ultimately china is providing the precedent. If they are diverting brahmaputra for internal use, india will compensate by diverting indus. Period.

In any case pak supports chinese move so has no business opposing ours. Not that it matters.

India and Pakistan have a water-sharing treaty in place, whereas China has not signed any comparable treaty with any country.

If India has any grievances against China, it can attack China directly. Why bully Pakistan, just because Pakistan is an easy target?

 

[Meengla]

A short Google search will tell u that
Till March 2025, Pakistan was receving 130-135 Million Acre Feet of water from India via the indus water treaty .
But Pakistan's total storage capacity was around 17 Million Acre Feet of water.
Compared to that Total storage capacity of India is around 210 Million Acre Feet of water , out of which around 42 Million Acre Feet was in Kashmir itself .
India as of now cannot stop the flow of water . We were allowed 34 Million Acre Feet in the IWT , but now we are using around 40-42 MAF. When the monsoon hits Kashmir sometime In July, the flow of water going to Pakistan will rise to 150 MAF from present 125 MAF
and entire Punjab and Sind will go under water because Pakistan forgot to build any Dams since 1970s
The current projects announced by PM Modi will divert another 35 MAF of water .Whatever Modi says in public, he is not going to completely shut off the tap.
What will happen is that Pakistan will receive an average flow of 90-100 MAF instead of the present flow of 125 MAF
All your problems can be solved if u increase your storage capacity to 50 MAF from present 17 MAF

Thoughtful post and I hope your numbers about the amount of water that goes into Pakistan is right--for Pakistan's sake! But it is still a theft of Pakistan's water which were given to Pakistan by the IWT. No Indian govt was so cruel to have sunk to the level of the Modi regime. A Treat is a Treaty. Work with Pakistan to renegotiate to find an acceptable solution for both on long term basis but work through legal channels. Don't tie this issue with the overarching Kashmir issue.

Having said that, I believe water management has been given very high priority by the current govt of Pakistan because Pakistan can't trust India to not enforce some very restrictive flow of water in future. Also, it seems like for whatever reasons, there is more and more rain in Pakistan every year and that is blessing in disguise despite causing flooding. I think even parched Baluchistan is getting significantly more rain.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Can you imagine how these guys must cope with real life?

Do you guys seriously think India is trying to close the water pipe? We can't do that, it'll flood Jammu and Kashmir. The whole point is to deny water when you need it the most (crop Kharif season) and dump it in monsoon to ruin the crops.

You need hydrological data on how much water is coming so that you can control your own dams to release water or keep the dam closed to save water. Without these you rely on sats, which is not great if there is an overnight rain and you have no idea of water flow increase.

Long term plan is to divert rivers like the Chenab-Beas link we are building so we can farm in the Thar desert so on and so forth.

 

[Master Chief]

India and Pakistan have a water-sharing treaty in place, whereas China has not signed any comparable treaty with any country.

If India has any grievances against China, it can attack China directly. Why bully Pakistan, just because Pakistan is an easy target?

Mate the questions do get asked on this thread but Indians stay silent.

 

[royalharris]

Mate the questions do get asked on this thread but Indians stay silent.

It's simply because they see Pakistan as weak and easy to intimidate