Pakistan is getting dry

[fitpOsitive]

Throughout the year we don't have much water. Rainy season is near and India will deliberately open the water gates of all the dams it has built of our waters. And then we will have big floods.
Pak govt will be happy as it will spark billions of dollars of aid. Actually I think they are desperately waiting for the this to happen.
India on the other hand holds power.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Throughout the year we don't have much water. Rainy season is near and India will deliberately open the water gates of all the dams it has built of our waters. And then we will have big floods.
Pak govt will be happy as it will spark billions of dollars of aid. Actually I think they are desperately waiting for the this to happen.
India on the other hand holds power.

I'm not even sure which dam affects Pakistan. All dams between Ind Pak are runoff river dams. They cannot cause floods unless it rains heavily and water flows naturally to Pak.

 

[fitpOsitive]

I'm not even sure which dam affects Pakistan. All dams between Ind Pak are runoff river dams. They cannot cause floods unless it rains heavily and water flows naturally to Pak.

If you Google a little

• Ravi River:
  India has built Ranjit Sagar Dam and the Shahpurkandi barrage on the Ravi River, which has the effect of stopping some water flow to Pakistan.
  
  
• Chenab River:
  India has built several hydropower projects on the upper Chenab River, including Baglihar, Ratle, and others, which have been a point of contention with Pakistan.
  
  
• Jhelum River:
  Similar to the Chenab, India has also built hydropower projects on the Jhelum River, such as Kishanganga, which have led to disputes with Pakistan.
  
  
• Indus River:
  While India is primarily allocated the eastern rivers (Ravi, Beas, Sutlej), it also has some rights to utilize the western rivers (Jhelum, Chenab, Indus). India has been planning and constructing various projects on these rivers, including the Bursar Multipurpose Project on the Chenab River.
  
  
• Ujh River:
  India is also undertaking the Ujh Dam project on the Ujh River, which also flows into Pakistan.
  
  
• Other projects:
  India has also been planning and constructing other projects, including the Tulbul Navigation Project (which is stalled) and the Gyspa project on the Bhaga River.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Pak Army is sleeping now..

 

[Vikramaditya1]

If you Google a little

• Ravi River:
  India has built Ranjit Sagar Dam and the Shahpurkandi barrage on the Ravi River, which has the effect of stopping some water flow to Pakistan.
  
  
• Chenab River:
  India has built several hydropower projects on the upper Chenab River, including Baglihar, Ratle, and others, which have been a point of contention with Pakistan.
  
  
• Jhelum River:
  Similar to the Chenab, India has also built hydropower projects on the Jhelum River, such as Kishanganga, which have led to disputes with Pakistan.
  
  
• Indus River:
  While India is primarily allocated the eastern rivers (Ravi, Beas, Sutlej), it also has some rights to utilize the western rivers (Jhelum, Chenab, Indus). India has been planning and constructing various projects on these rivers, including the Bursar Multipurpose Project on the Chenab River.
  
  
• Ujh River:
  India is also undertaking the Ujh Dam project on the Ujh River, which also flows into Pakistan.
  
  
• Other projects:
  India has also been planning and constructing other projects, including the Tulbul Navigation Project (which is stalled) and the Gyspa project on the Bhaga River.

None of these violate IWT. They are all run off river dams, you have all the blueprints of the construction of dams. The rivers allocated to us are fully utilised. If Ravi is dry in Pakistan it's because you agreed to it and signed the treaty which grants you 80% of the water in trans boundary river. Utilize the water given to you fully instead watching it go into the Indian Ocean.

All I'm reading is India taking care of water given to us fully.

 

[fitpOsitive]

None of these violate IWT. They are all run off river dams, you have all the blueprints of the construction of dams. The rivers allocated to us are fully utilised. If Ravi is dry in Pakistan it's because you agreed to it and signed the treaty which grants you 80% of the water in trans boundary river. Utilize the water given to you fully instead watching it go into the Indian Ocean.

All I'm reading is India taking care of water given to us fully.

You know what, if Indians were so honest and understanding, India would be united and Pakistan would have never born. Whenever you say "None of these violate IWT", it's same what Israel says : we are just defending Israel.
But our army is corrupt and tbh, even if you stop all water, we might not be able to do anything.

 

[newb3e]

whatever little precious water Pakistan has will be diverted to irrigate a fking desert where khaki fks will grow grass for cows in Saudi and UAE!!

and this nation will keep sleeping!

kamal chotya qoum hai no wonder an idiot is at helm and rulling!

 

[maverick]

India is not doing anything against the IVT...... sometimes , I really feel ashamed of my compatriots ignorance.

you were and will always be a scum of the earth, you need to go back to SS, NS and kiss their ass, that place is good enough for you.

Indus Water Treaty

History tells us how water shaped societies and settlements. It is a known fact that wherever there is water, there is life—and vice versa. As a

www.nation.com.pk

 

[hussain0216]

you were and will always be a scum of the earth, you need to go back to SS, NS and kiss their ass, that place is good enough for you.

Indus Water Treaty

History tells us how water shaped societies and settlements. It is a known fact that wherever there is water, there is life—and vice versa. As a

www.nation.com.pk

We've been trying to build dams and reservoirs for decades, only the stupid backwards parts of the country blocked them

Dam Nahi banega!!!

 

[RealDeal]

Some things to note

AI Overview



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Yes, according to recent research, rainfall in Pakistan is increasing, particularly in the form of extreme monsoon events, with the most significant increase observed in the southern regions of the country, largely attributed to climate change and warming in the Middle East which enhances summer rainfall over Pakistan; this trend was most evident in the record-breaking rainfall experienced in 2022 causing devastating floods.
Key points about increasing rainfall in Pakistan:
Significant rise in recent decades:
Studies show a notable increase in regional rainfall over Pakistan and northwestern India, with some reports indicating a 46% rise in rainfall since 1979.
Intensified monsoon events:
While the overall rainfall is increasing, the most concerning aspect is the rise in intensity of monsoon rains, leading to more extreme flooding events.
2022 floods as an example:
The devastating floods in Pakistan during 2022 are considered a prime example of the extreme rainfall patterns linked to climate change, with significantly higher rainfall than previous years, particularly in the southern plains.
Climate change factors:
The increased rainfall is linked to warming temperatures in the Middle East which influence atmospheric patterns and drive more moisture towards Pakistan.


We need dam building to be faster then ever

Just because you are getting slightly more rainfall than 50 years ago doesn't mean you are not drying up. In 50 years, your rainfall might have increased 10-15%, but your population has probably tripled, so that 10-15% extra rainfall is like a drop and water scarcity has probably tripled.

Secondly, the amount of rainfall a place gets means **** all if it is getting all this rainfall in extreme weather events over 2-3 days and if its average temperature is like 40 degrees in summer. 2 places getting the same annual rainfall an year, one can be literally a forest and one can be be a desert. Temperature, soil type, presence/absence of a river, and the spread of rainfall through the year make all the difference.

Jaipur gets about 650 mm rainfall an year, slightly more than London. This is what it looks like - semi arid almost a desert, and i am sure you know what London looks like, one of the greenest cities in the world.

 

[hussain0216]

Just because you are getting slightly more rainfall than 50 years ago doesn't mean you are not drying up. In 50 years, your rainfall might have increased 10-15%, but your population has probably tripled, so that 10-15% extra rainfall is like a drop and water scarcity has probably tripled.

Secondly, the amount of rainfall a place gets means **** all if it is getting all this rainfall in extreme weather events over 2-3 days and if its average temperature is like 40 degrees in summer. 2 places getting the same annual rainfall an year, one can be literally a forest and one can be be a desert. Temperature, soil type, presence/absence of a river, and the spread of rainfall through the year make all the difference.

Jaipur gets about 650 mm rainfall an year, slightly more than London. This is what it looks like - semi arid almost a desert, and i am sure you know what London looks like, one of the greenest cities in the world.

The weather in the world is changing, Pakistan will be like a funnel with increasing rainfall,it just now needs more dams to store water

 

[RealDeal]

The weather in the world is changing, Pakistan will be like a funnel with increasing rainfall,it just now needs more dams to store water

This is literally from today

Himalayan snow at 23-year low, threatening 2 billion people

The Hindu Kush-Himalayan range holds the largest reserves of ice and snow outside the Arctic and Antarctica.

www.dawn.com

But ok

 

[Krptonite]

You know what, if Indians were so honest and understanding, India would be united and Pakistan would have never born. Whenever you say "None of these violate IWT", it's same what Israel says : we are just defending Israel.
But our army is corrupt and tbh, even if you stop all water, we might not be able to do anything.

The same argument can be turned on its head, if you guys are being the victims, you would win more international arbitrations

Perhaphs if you explain why or how you believe GOI is breaking the IWT we can discuss the points further

So far you've put forth on ground views for lessening water , which can be caused by multiple things, what causes you to fixate on us breaking the treaty

 

[fitpOsitive]

The same argument can be turned on its head, if you guys are being the victims, you would win more international arbitrations

Perhaphs if you explain why or how you believe GOI is breaking the IWT we can discuss the points further

So far you've put forth on ground views for lessening water , which can be caused by multiple things, what causes you to fixate on us breaking the treaty

See Post#108 please

 

[GatlingGun]

If you Google a little

• Ravi River:
  India has built Ranjit Sagar Dam and the Shahpurkandi barrage on the Ravi River, which has the effect of stopping some water flow to Pakistan.
  
  
• Chenab River:
  India has built several hydropower projects on the upper Chenab River, including Baglihar, Ratle, and others, which have been a point of contention with Pakistan.
  
  
• Jhelum River:
  Similar to the Chenab, India has also built hydropower projects on the Jhelum River, such as Kishanganga, which have led to disputes with Pakistan.
  
  
• Indus River:
  While India is primarily allocated the eastern rivers (Ravi, Beas, Sutlej), it also has some rights to utilize the western rivers (Jhelum, Chenab, Indus). India has been planning and constructing various projects on these rivers, including the Bursar Multipurpose Project on the Chenab River.
  
  
• Ujh River:
  India is also undertaking the Ujh Dam project on the Ujh River, which also flows into Pakistan.
  
  
• Other projects:
  India has also been planning and constructing other projects, including the Tulbul Navigation Project (which is stalled) and the Gyspa project on the Bhaga River.

Half of your list is not constructed. Now be honest and also mention their storage capacity. All of them are within IWT clauses.