Pakistan, Kuwait discuss expanded defence pact: report

[El Sidd]

they are self serving for sure. sadly all these GCC countries know that we Pakistanis are madly devout Muslims holding them in high esteem due to relgious connection and badly are starved for cash with very potent force they can hire for money to fight for them.
And we all know who they want defence from and its not Israel. even though srael bombed Qatar one of their kind but they dont want protection from America or Israel since they are actively providing full logstics support to Israel and America against Iran.
Pakistan has stayed away from their war against Iran since the time of Gen Zia and I pray and hope it remains that way despite all the pressure being put on Pakistan because it will be a desaster.

Arabian hegemony over Near East is least desirable for Persians, Turks, European settlers nor Turkic Khazars.

 

[r3alist]

just reverse the scenario imagine indian armed forces stations in middle east ksa kuwiat qatat etc what would be the recation of Paksitanis?

During the American occupation of Afghanistan the Indians were invited continuously and they refused, kind of unbelievable when you consider what might have happened.

I am sure the UAE has encouraged further involvement and remember didn't they have a military mou lol

The UAE seems to be so interconnected to the Indian economy it's actually a compelling reason to have much more expanded military ties


Yet the Indians are cautious..... they are worried about something

 

[El Sidd]

just reverse the scenario imagine indian armed forces stations in middle east ksa kuwiat qatat etc what would be the recation of Paksitanis?

It's in India's best interest to secure these offers. Somewhere down the line some politician will pay tribute to Indian foreign policy just like how there are ex Prime Ministers in Pakistan who adore and admire Indian policy of non intervention.

The decision lies with the government not with the people.

 

[maxpane]

During the American occupation of Afghanistan the Indians were invited continuously and they refused, kind of unbelievable when you consider what might have happened.

I am sure the UAE has encouraged further involvement and remember didn't they have a military mou lol

The UAE seems to be so interconnected to the Indian economy it's actually a compelling reason to have much more expanded military ties


Yet the Indians are cautious..... they are worried about something

indo pacific was all about that. india would control this region. israel and uae wanted that but they failed . imagine india and israel in middle east.

 

[r3alist]

indo pacific was all about that. india would control this region. israel and uae wanted that but they failed . imagine india and israel in middle east.

I think other people do more imagining than the Indians themselves.



Also they will be conscious about any misstep in the region and what repercussions, The Americans had global power status and brute force, the Indians want to cultivate certain image

 

[030292]

indo pacific was all about that. india would control this region. israel and uae wanted that but they failed . imagine india and israel in middle east.

If arabs are so suicidal that they are willing to invite snakes in their room, then they are a lost cause, no defensive agreement will save them from their own shit policies.

 

[maxpane]

I think other people do more imagining than the Indians themselves.



Also they will be conscious about any misstep in the region and what repercussions, The Americans had global power status and brute force, the Indians want to cultivate certain image

got it i just want to give an other perspective it was just for the sake of discussion

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

The war is for the Jews

How so? Do the Americans love Iran in an alternative reality or something?

The GCC spent trillions for U.S protection and in the end the U.S didn't give one tiny little shit about MULTIPLE countries, their economies, people or infrastructure

Who has launched around 15,000 airstrikes on Iran so far?

... Instead it used U.S presence in those countries as a base, making them targets just to protect Israel

I don't think any GCC leader is dead like Khamenei Sr or hiding like Khamenei Jr.

Do you see any Arab leadership complaining, moaning and whining like your good self, Sir?

The Arabs look like bufoons, clowns, morons, retards, idiots, apes and monkeys and dopes

What words will cover it?

Last I checked, it wasn't the Arabs begging Iran for $300 billion, nor were they the ones desperately trying to dominate the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz.

With the correct funding, Pakistan can provide better protection
Joint weapons programs and work as a conduit between iran and the GCC to establish peace

The enemy is the Jews and west

Iran and Israel are two sides of the same coin. Both are vying for the title of the most malign state in the region. Yet because you prefer the Iranian version over the Israeli one, you've convinced yourself you're on the right side.

If Iran hates Arabs, then stop telling Arabs to surrender to Iran. It isn't going to happen. I'd sooner expect the Islamic Republic to lose its ability to project power than see Arab states willingly submit to Iranian regional dominance again.

 

[hussain0216]

if Allah gives you something then take it . now manu salwa wnt come from heaven .
people are not realizing when you get replaced by other then you wnt have your chance in decades. you will lose all your clout and nobody will cate about you

GHQ understands this and are taking vital steps with the government


Whatever we think of our government, their foreign policy over the last few years has been superb

We now need harsh harsh steps against the enemies of Pakistan,

Treat the Afghans like absolute dirt, as non humans let alone Muslims, punish the groups spreading propaganda against Pakistan

End all visa programs, I.D cards

Conduct a census and issue new cards that are difficult to copy and make our laws harsh with long sentences and consequences

 

[hussain0216]

How so? Do the Americans love Iran in an alternative reality or something?


Who has launched around 15,000 airstrikes on Iran so far?


I don't think any GCC leader is dead like Khamenei Sr or hiding like Khamenei Jr.

Do you see any Arab leadership complaining, moaning and whining like your good self, Sir?


Last I checked, it wasn't the Arabs begging Iran for $300 billion, nor were they the ones desperately trying to dominate the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz.


Iran and Israel are two sides of the same coin. Both are vying for the title of the most malign state in the region. Yet because you prefer the Iranian version over the Israeli one, you've convinced yourself you're on the right side.

If Iran hates Arabs, then stop telling Arabs to surrender to Iran. It isn't going to happen. I'd sooner expect the Islamic Republic to lose its ability to project power than see Arab states willingly submit to Iranian regional dominance again.

Iran is a 5000 year old fact, it's not going anywhere

Whether you like it or not it's part and parcel of the Muslim world and seeing a major Muslim power attacked or defeated is not in the interest of the Muslim world

The Arabs and Iranians need peace, their division has been used against them and the region


The Arabs sat by watching Palestinians murdered by Jews
And now their economies are in turmoil and they are in the cross hairs because they host U.S bases

They spent trillions and the U.S bows to the Zionists and shits on the Arabs



Pakistan should be eager and ready to create an alternative system where Muslims countries especially Pakistan takes charge of security

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

what i want to say that imagine a scenario where Paksitan refuse to take a position and indian comes at take it they station theor forces from kuwait to behrain from then ksa what would Paksitanis will think ?

In that case, good luck to those low iq gulfi arabs if they think that the indians will fight to protect them................

 

[030292]

In that case, good luck to those low iq gulfi arabs if they think that the indians will fight to protect them................

The beating that PAF gave them in op tindoor will take them generations to recover from, no way these motherland cowards are ever going to risk their lives to protect muslims of all people.

Sarrrr neutral foreign policy sarrrr.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The beating that PAF gave them in op tindoor will take them generations to recover from, no way these motherland cowards are ever going to risk their lives to protect muslims of all people.

Sarrrr neutral foreign policy sarrrr.

You know that, I know that but the gulfi arabs don't know that.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Iran is a 5000 year old fact, it's not going anywhere

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... Whether you like it or not it's part and parcel of the Muslim world and seeing a major Muslim power attacked or defeated is not in the interest of the Muslim world....

If you've been made to believe Iran is some "major Muslim power" as part of its deterrence strategy, then that's a problem for the Muslim world—especially Pakistan.

Afghanistan fell into the same trap after "defeating" the United States and NATO. Emboldened by hubris, it turned its attention towards Pakistan by unleashing terrorism on our soil, much as Iran has projected instability across parts of the Arab world since 2003.

No country in the world lost any sleep when Pakistan finally lost patience and carried out relentless airstrikes across Afghanistan's major cities.

And let's not forget Iran's previous attempts to undermine Pakistan.

... The Arabs sat by watching Palestinians murdered by Jews ...

Have you ever heard of the Arab–Israeli conflicts? I must have missed the part where Iran fought those wars.

Ever since 1979, we've been told that Arabs are the problem and Iran is the self-appointed saviour of Palestine. Yet for years there was little to show for that rhetoric. Then, after President George W. Bush labelled Iran part of the "Axis of Evil" in January 2002, suddenly we were told Iran needed to spread its "resistance"—or, as critics would call it, its terror tentacles—across the region, all supposedly for the sake of Palestine.

... And now their economies are in turmoil and they are in the cross hairs because they host U.S bases ...

It's all in your head. And you seem far more worried about the Arabs than the Arabs are themselves.

It's like Iranians living with 88% inflation spending their time worrying about Americans dealing with 4.5% inflation.

 

[r3alist]

got it i just want to give an other perspective it was just for the sake of discussion

Completely valid point you raised

We inherently project how we might see the world, and I think I alluded to the same point before, because it should be a consideration, but I guess what I'm saying is we have to remind ourselves two different Nations and two different temperaments