Pakistan Rocket Force Command News and Discussions

[Panzerkiel]

You gotta be more specific sir. If it's copy is there, is it with army or Nay.
Do we have air launched like the Chinese do?.

 

[TallGuy]

Same stuff..new packaging.



Utter bakwaas.



The same babur subsonic cruise missile now has some 30 odd variants. There is really non existent new tech, no industrial base, and no money to feed this new 'rocket command'.



Enjoy being fooled.



You just dont have the industrial base and resources for mass production. Any one with an average understanding of Paks economy and some years of service in our defence setups knows this basic fact. But lets play along..lets fool each other..lets never actually improve.

before PRF we could not use Babar/Ghaznavi/Shaheen 1A due to nuclear overhang.

PRF will rename use the same weapon systems with conventional warheads.

so no body will say by firing Shaheen Pakistan was going nuclear

but by firing Fattah 1/2/3/4 no problem they are conventional.

let this sink in!

 

[Bilal]

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Off topic: back in university days, this one guy belonged to the student wing of a political party. One day there was a clash with the students of an opposing group and this guy was dating a girl at that time.

When he saw the group of students from the other side coming towards him he stood up to make a run for it, the girl said to him “mien kia karo”, he replied “apna apna bhaago”.

 

[Scorpio]

True, but officially inducted weapons include Fatah (A100 MLRS), Fatah-1 140km MLRS, Fatah-2 400km TBM, Fatah-3 (speculated to be CM302 or HD-1) and Fatah-4 low flying 750km subsonic cruise missile.

What about other missiles.. Hatf series, shaheen series and etc

 

[TallGuy]

What about other missiles.. Hatf series, shaheen series and etc

they are all declared dual use (Nuclear tip) hence dead weight in Conventional warfare.

 

[TopGun786]

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Love it.....

 

[Bilal]

What about other missiles.. Hatf series, shaheen series and etc

Conventional version/designation not unveiled yet. The above system are clearly marked for the conventional rocket force.

 

[Scorpio]

they are all declared dual use (Nuclear tip) hence dead weight in Conventional warfare.

Making new army arm .. just to fire fatah series make no sense at all...

Unless more missile specially.. super Sonic or hypersonic will given to them ..Under there control ...

 

[TallGuy]

Making new army arm .. just fire fatah series make now sense then ...

Unless more missile specially.. super Sonic or hypersonic will given to them ..

Under there control ...

There is a systematic approach and method to resolving/finding solutions.

Masha Allah! Shukar Al Hamdullah!

Right people and right places with right mindset - can do wonders. just wait and see PRF will become premiere deep precision strike force.

border till 1000km misc. Indian military targets will be successfully attacked.

wait till you start hearing about Long range strike drones integrated into PRF.

 

[Michael]

True, but officially inducted weapons include Fatah (A100 MLRS), Fatah-1 140km MLRS, Fatah-2 400km TBM, Fatah-3 (speculated to be CM302 or HD-1) and Fatah-4 low flying 750km subsonic cruise missile.

No.

There's no need to incorporate these MLRS into a new, independent military service. They would be far more effective within the Army. Bringing them under the Rocket Force's purview would only diminish their effectiveness.

The Rocket Force, as an independent military service, is meant to launch lethal attacks against the enemy, regardless of cost. This is completely different from traditional warfare thinking. In traditional warfare thinking, war is negotiable. However, when the supreme commander decides to activate the Rocket Force to launch a lethal attack, such warfare is not negotiable. This is the significance of its independence.

For example:
Pakistan's Shaheen series of missiles. Once the Rocket Force becomes independent, these nuclear weapons will be under its full control.
In the P5 countries, a small number of nuclear missiles are always in a state of readiness for launch, known as "combat readiness." Other nuclear missiles are stored or in reserve, and their activation requires a significant lead time.
However, maintaining a nuclear missile force in "combat readiness" for a long period of time requires numerous requirements and substantial financial expenditures.

 

[Curious guy]

I think we have SPD for that purpose.

No.

There's no need to incorporate these MLRS into a new, independent military service. They would be far more effective within the Army. Bringing them under the Rocket Force's purview would only diminish their effectiveness.

The Rocket Force, as an independent military service, is meant to launch lethal attacks against the enemy, regardless of cost. This is completely different from traditional warfare thinking. In traditional warfare thinking, war is negotiable. However, when the supreme commander decides to activate the Rocket Force to launch a lethal attack, such warfare is not negotiable. This is the significance of its independence.

For example:
Pakistan's Shaheen series of missiles. Once the Rocket Force becomes independent, these nuclear weapons will be under its full control.
In the P5 countries, a small number of nuclear missiles are always in a state of readiness for launch, known as "combat readiness." Other nuclear missiles are stored or in reserve, and their activation requires a significant lead time.
However, maintaining a nuclear missile force in "combat readiness" for a long period of time requires numerous requirements and substantial financial expenditures.

 

[falcon34]

I think we have SPD for that purpose.

Exactly the entire purpose for PRF is to launch long range nuclear capable missiles with conventional warheads without signaling nuclear posturing

 

[Scorpio]

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[AeroTech]

before PRF we could not use Babar/Ghaznavi/Shaheen 1A due to nuclear overhang.

PRF will rename use the same weapon systems with conventional warheads.

so no body will say by firing Shaheen Pakistan was going nuclear

but by firing Fattah 1/2/3/4 no problem they are conventional.

let this sink in!

I let this idea sink in and it was even more bullcrap.

Everybody (specially Indians) already knows that SPD oversees both nuke and conventional missiles.

Up until the recent conflict, once you mobilized launchers for shaheen and babur, enemy would be guessing that is it nuclear or conventional. That would give you an advantage bcz the enemy hesitated a bit. Now, once every damn thing is a Fatah-xyz, and the ememy is sure that it's only conventional, you only give them more confidence. Bcz conventional ones are vintage and lack accuracy/firepower.

Lastly, thanks for conceding on my main point i.e. it's just damn rebranding of old garbage. New corps, new generals, new bureaucracy, new perks/benefits. Maujan hi maujan.

 

[AeroTech]

Surely "we" not "you" right?

Here we go again..