Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[Yasser76]

Bombing 2 buildings does win you wars. Striking 2 buildings is not war..

If you want war in the true essence look at Russo-Ukraine war, the Syrian-Rebel-Russian-Iran war, Myanmar war, or even the short lived Karabkh wars were real wars and also Gaza is a conventional warfare.

Nobody can say you know what I am just gonna have a airforce dog-fight with Egypt and thats it. That is not how wars work

Well pushing back Irans nuke programme and turning Syria and Lebanese into vassel states was all done by air.

If Egypt did indeed start a land war, Israel would have a solid chance and even if Israel faced defeat, ultimately nuclear weapons would ensure not only the destruction of the Egyptian army, but possibly Egyptian civilisation.

In short, Egypt will not be able to defeat Israel in the air, and if ot does so on land (despite overwhelming Israeli air superiority), tactical nuclear weapons will finish off the Egyptian army

Egypt has very little utility in the modern military world.

Anyway, we are going off topic now, apologies

 

[battalion25]

@battalion25

What about the Sindoor War?

Regards

Just a skirmish not a war. It was like two incidents of engagements nothing to write home about in truth.

Both India and Pakistan know that they will only have to fight conventionally in a world war 3 world scenario where both have nothing to lose but not in this world order of following economy but after it collapses perhaps they can go at it yes but not as long as the world economy is functional

 

[battalion25]

Well pushing back Irans nuke programme and turning Syria and Lebanese into vassel states was all done by air.

If Egypt did indeed start a land war, Israel would have a solid chance and even if Israel faced defeat, ultimately nuclear weapons would ensure not only the destruction of the Egyptian army, but possibly Egyptian civilisation.

In short, Egypt will not be able to defeat Israel in the air, and if ot does so on land (despite overwhelming Israeli air superiority), tactical nuclear weapons will finish off the Egyptian army

Egypt has very little utility in the modern military world.

Anyway, we are going off topic now, apologies

Egypt will have to have a balancing act to Israel´s tactical nukes but outside of nukes Egypt is far superior to Israel militarily and will beat them quite comfortably.

Syria was won by Rebels... Had nothing to do with others.

Air superiority will not win Israel war over Egypt and note Egypt has competent air force and air defense systems. Conventionally Egypt Smokes Israel who couldn´t defeat Hamas for 3 years.

The only card Israel has is tactical nukes and nukes basically and Egypt Will have an equalize for that answer down the road.

But Conventionally Egypt Smokes Israel won´t even be a competition

 

[Yasser76]

Egypt will have to have a balancing act to Israel´s tactical nukes but outside of nukes Egypt is far superior to Israel militarily and will beat them quite comfortably.

Syria was won by Rebels... Had nothing to do with others.

Air superiority will not win Israel war over Egypt and note Egypt has competent air force and air defense systems. Conventionally Egypt Smokes Israel who couldn´t defeat Hamas for 3 years.

The only card Israel has is tactical nukes and nukes basically and Egypt Will have an equalize for that answer down the road.

But Conventionally Egypt Smokes Israel won´t even be a competition

OK, cannot argue with ignorance, yeah, just forget about F-35s, sub launched ballastic missiles, long range strike missiles, ,massive EW/AEW superiority as if they do not exist.

"Balancing act against Israel'as tactical nukes", WTF does that even mean? That shows they have lost already.

Anyway, as i said, off topic, lets move on. You have no clue here.

 

[battalion25]

I am gonna go out on a limp here and say flatout.

This current Syrian regime beats Israel in conventional warfare remove nukes out of the picture. HTS and SNA could absolutely reach the southern tip of Israel with their drones, tactical formations which is upgraded because of warfare experience and they are battle hardened. They could definitely punch thru the northern division quite comfortable as Israeli airforce will be exahusted the longer the war goes. Syria wins in a war of attration.

I would put my money on them bearing there is no use of nukes

 

[battalion25]

OK, cannot argue with ignorance, yeah, just forget about F-35s, sub launched ballastic missiles, long range strike missiles, ,massive EW/AEW superiority as if they do not exist.

"Balancing act against Israel'as tactical nukes", WTF does that even mean? That shows they have lost already.

Anyway, as i said, off topic, lets move on. You have no clue here.

I was the only guy who predicted how both the Ukraine war and Gaza wars will played out. Alot of people assumed that it was gonna be rollovers but it didn´t. I know my stuff bro

 

[Yasser76]

I was the only guy who predicted how both the Ukraine war and Gaza wars will played out. Alot of people assumed that it was gonna be rollovers but it didn´t. I know my stuff bro

Yeah, OK, bro, you know your stuff, you are a 3 star rank. Well done, nice one.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@battalion25

What would your prognosis for a hypothetical:

PAK-AFG war
PAK-IRAN war

Regards

 

[battalion25]

@battalion25

What would your prognosis for a hypothetical:

PAK-AFG war
PAR-IRAN war

Regards

In the Pak-AFG there will be no winner outside of India.

PAR will have to many allies for Iran. Iran gets fully invaded after a prolonged war that could go on for like 7-10 years but they will eventually get outlasted and resourses cut off.

 

[RescueRanger]

Yeah, OK, bro, you know your stuff, you are a 3 star rank. Well done, nice one.

Hahah

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Although I have my reservations about the KSA Royal family, the KSA folks I have met here in the USA are no fools. They've got a seriously good grasp on the geo-politics and geo-strategies. And, they looked quite open-minded. I though it was an aberration. However, this Pak-KSA pact has shown they do have folks in their leadership and policy-making who can think and act "out of the box"....

 

[Liquidator]

Bang on the mark with your contextual narration.

However, how does that lead into a need to support Iran militarily? Frankly, Iran is a liability at present. Let them sort themselves out and clean their house first.

Good point
It doesn't need to be on the level it is with Saudi. That's not what I'm saying.

However we should help them "sorting themselves out" as much as we can. Be it intelligence cooperation or other civert support. It is in our interest to have a strong Iran capable of striking Israel.

 

[RescueRanger]

Although I have my reservations about the KSA Royal family, the KSA folks I have met here in the USA are no fools. They've a seriously good grasp on the geo-politics and geo-strategies. And, they looked quite open-minded. I though it was an aberration. However, this Pak-KSA pact has shown they do have folks in their leadership and policy-making who can think and act "out of the box"....

People from KSA are very astute. It's a common misconception and bias against Saudi people to treat them all as self-indulgent and ignorant.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

no way NATO protects turkey against ISRAEL , they will find a way to break rules like they always have , Pakistan should be the center of these deals because we have the nukes and the best intelligence out of all the Muslims countries .

more like pak+saudi , pak+qatar , pak +Kuwait

Just Pakistan-Saudi Arabia for now.

I do like Iran's idea of a "Comprehensive Regional Security System" (CRSS). Adding Iran into a military block with Pakistan-Saudi Arabia will put West on the back foot.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

So if India dares again would Saudis be joining us in fight against India? Or this pact is only providing benefit to Saudis to counter isreal ?

Ask Hindu Extremist India to test it.