Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

the vicious kind said:
No he hasnt, i have read the full statement. Trump’s statement was: “The prime minister and the field marshal of Pakistan … they were with us right from the beginning … they back this 100 per cent.” Trump is taking about the U.S-led Gaza peace proposal, not abraham accords. This follows the US -Turkey - KSA - Qatar - Pakistan meeting a few days ago, when muslim countries put pressure on trump to get a peace deal through.

Pakistan’s official stance remains unchanged, no recognition without a just two-state settlement. Stop spreading fake news and drama.
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Do you know Who is fatima bhuto..
 
Do you guys understand that to accept and recognize a state is to legitimize an occupying country in the heart of the Muslim world, one that possesses an atomic bomb? Do you realize that what you are writing is your own death sentence? You are signing the death warrant for your children and coming generations.
 
Cash gk said:
Do you know Who is fatima bhuto..
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Cash gk said:
I can see you are absolutely an idiot who trying to cover up your covering is as you are partnering the crime against Muslim world you are a traitor.
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Fatima Bhutto isn’t some authority on geopolitics, she’s neither a defense analyst nor a former intelligence chief. Her tweets are opinions, not infallible facts. Stop treating celebrity commentary as state policy.

Are you for real? You’re calling people traitors based on a tweet from some random anti-PMLN journalist?

Bro, I’m no fan of Shehbaz Sharif or the patwaris, but I’m not so delusional that I’ll believe every rumor thrown around on Twitter. Use some logic before making wild accusations.

Let me ask you this, Do you get your new feeds from retired uncle whatsapp groups ?
 
the vicious kind said:
Fatima Bhutto isn’t some authority on geopolitics, she’s neither a defense analyst nor a former intelligence chief. Her tweets are opinions, not infallible facts. Stop treating celebrity commentary as state policy.

Are you for real? You’re calling people traitors based on a tweet from some random anti-PMLN journalist?

Bro, I’m no fan of Shehbaz Sharif or the patwaris, but I’m not so delusional that I’ll believe every rumor thrown around on Twitter. Use some logic before making wild accusations.

Let me ask you this, Do you get your new feeds from retired uncle whatsapp groups ?
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Get well soon,
 
the vicious kind said:
Fatima Bhutto isn’t some authority on geopolitics, she’s neither a defense analyst nor a former intelligence chief. Her tweets are opinions, not infallible facts. Stop treating celebrity commentary as state policy.

Are you for real? You’re calling people traitors based on a tweet from some random anti-PMLN journalist?

Bro, I’m no fan of Shehbaz Sharif or the patwaris, but I’m not so delusional that I’ll believe every rumor thrown around on Twitter. Use some logic before making wild accusations.

Let me ask you this, Do you get your new feeds from retired uncle whatsapp groups ?
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Admin check this guy if he is Pakistaní or penetrator
 
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Accepting the state should lead to stability, but it can't if people despise each other. Like native Undlusians despised African rulers, and when the time came, exodus and inquisition (reconquista).

That is why Israel wants legitimacy to end this issue politically. If you accept 2 states, it means you are accepting Israel as a country.
 
Cash gk said:
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Many predicted that. That is why there was no briefing or minutes released after the meeting.

If Trump is blabbering own its own, then our rulers provided this opportunity. That is why Modi didn't meet Trump a month ago, because Trump could say anything that Modi asked him to resolve Kashmir etc.
 
Cash gk said:
Get well soon,
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Here is the 21-point peace plan brokered by Trump. Please show me where it says that Pakistan will accept Israel or that Pakistan has abandoned the two-state solution. On the contrary, if you actually read the last point (which I doubt you will, since you seem to prefer second-hand knowledge over facts), you’ll see that is actually points to a two state solution.
  • Demilitarization: Gaza will become a de-radicalized, terror-free zone that poses no threat to its neighbors.
  • Redevelopment: Gaza will be rebuilt for the benefit of its people, who have already suffered greatly.
  • Ceasefire Agreement: If both sides accept the proposal, the war will end immediately; Israeli forces will withdraw to agreed lines, and all military operations will halt.
  • Hostage Release: Within 72 hours of Israel’s acceptance, all hostages (alive or deceased) will be returned.
  • Prisoner Exchange: After hostages are released, Israel will free 250 life-sentence prisoners and 1,700 Gazans detained after Oct 7 2023 (including all women and children). For every deceased Israeli hostage, remains of 15 Gazans will be returned.
  • Amnesty Option: Hamas members who commit to peaceful coexistence and disarmament will be given amnesty; those wishing to leave Gaza will get safe passage.
  • Immediate Aid: Upon acceptance, full humanitarian aid will enter Gaza—covering infrastructure, hospitals, bakeries, and rubble removal—based on the Jan 19 2025 aid agreement.
  • Aid Oversight: Aid distribution will be managed by the UN, Red Crescent, and neutral international institutions; Rafah crossing will follow Jan 19 2025 mechanisms.
  • Transitional Governance: Gaza will be run temporarily by a technocratic Palestinian committee with international experts, overseen by a “Board of Peace.”
  • Economic Development Plan: A Trump-led panel of experts will design a plan to rebuild Gaza and attract investments, creating jobs and hope.
  • Special Economic Zone: A zone with preferential tariffs and access will be negotiated with participating countries.
  • Freedom of Movement: No one will be forced to leave Gaza; those who wish may freely leave and return.
  • Hamas Exclusion: Hamas and other factions will have no role in governance; all military and terror infrastructure will be dismantled.
  • Demilitarization Program: Weapons will be decommissioned under independent monitoring, with buy-back and reintegration programs funded internationally.
  • Regional Guarantees: Regional partners will guarantee compliance so New Gaza remains peaceful and secure.
  • International Stabilization Force (ISF): A temporary ISF will deploy in Gaza to train vetted Palestinian police, with input from Jordan and Egypt.
  • Border Security: ISF will coordinate with Israel and Egypt to secure borders, prevent arms smuggling, and enable safe goods flow.
  • Israeli Withdrawal: Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. The IDF will withdraw as ISF control expands, keeping only a temporary perimeter until full security is achieved.
  • Contingency Clause: If Hamas rejects or delays, aid and redevelopment will still proceed in terror-free zones handed from IDF to ISF.
  • Interfaith Dialogue & Path to Statehood: An interfaith dialogue will promote coexistence. Once PA reforms succeed, conditions may allow a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood.


 
Goenitz said:
Accepting the state should lead to stability, but it can't if people despise each other. Like native Undlusians despised African rulers, and when the time came, exodus and inquisition (reconquista).

That is why Israel wants legitimacy to end this issue politically. If you accept 2 states, it means you are accepting Israel as a country.
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Those who think that peace will come, after signing this death sentence. they are living in fools heaven. Palestine, the land will never see peace because they are three major religions fighting to control on that piece of land.
 
the vicious kind said:
Here is the 21-point peace plan brokered by Trump. Please show me where it says that Pakistan will accept Israel or that Pakistan has abandoned the two-state solution. On the contrary, if you actually read the last point (which I doubt you will, since you seem to prefer second-hand knowledge over facts), you’ll see that is actually points to a two state solution.
  • Demilitarization: Gaza will become a de-radicalized, terror-free zone that poses no threat to its neighbors.
  • Redevelopment: Gaza will be rebuilt for the benefit of its people, who have already suffered greatly.
  • Ceasefire Agreement: If both sides accept the proposal, the war will end immediately; Israeli forces will withdraw to agreed lines, and all military operations will halt.
  • Hostage Release: Within 72 hours of Israel’s acceptance, all hostages (alive or deceased) will be returned.
  • Prisoner Exchange: After hostages are released, Israel will free 250 life-sentence prisoners and 1,700 Gazans detained after Oct 7 2023 (including all women and children). For every deceased Israeli hostage, remains of 15 Gazans will be returned.
  • Amnesty Option: Hamas members who commit to peaceful coexistence and disarmament will be given amnesty; those wishing to leave Gaza will get safe passage.
  • Immediate Aid: Upon acceptance, full humanitarian aid will enter Gaza—covering infrastructure, hospitals, bakeries, and rubble removal—based on the Jan 19 2025 aid agreement.
  • Aid Oversight: Aid distribution will be managed by the UN, Red Crescent, and neutral international institutions; Rafah crossing will follow Jan 19 2025 mechanisms.
  • Transitional Governance: Gaza will be run temporarily by a technocratic Palestinian committee with international experts, overseen by a “Board of Peace.”
  • Economic Development Plan: A Trump-led panel of experts will design a plan to rebuild Gaza and attract investments, creating jobs and hope.
  • Special Economic Zone: A zone with preferential tariffs and access will be negotiated with participating countries.
  • Freedom of Movement: No one will be forced to leave Gaza; those who wish may freely leave and return.
  • Hamas Exclusion: Hamas and other factions will have no role in governance; all military and terror infrastructure will be dismantled.
  • Demilitarization Program: Weapons will be decommissioned under independent monitoring, with buy-back and reintegration programs funded internationally.
  • Regional Guarantees: Regional partners will guarantee compliance so New Gaza remains peaceful and secure.
  • International Stabilization Force (ISF): A temporary ISF will deploy in Gaza to train vetted Palestinian police, with input from Jordan and Egypt.
  • Border Security: ISF will coordinate with Israel and Egypt to secure borders, prevent arms smuggling, and enable safe goods flow.
  • Israeli Withdrawal: Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. The IDF will withdraw as ISF control expands, keeping only a temporary perimeter until full security is achieved.
  • Contingency Clause: If Hamas rejects or delays, aid and redevelopment will still proceed in terror-free zones handed from IDF to ISF.
  • Interfaith Dialogue & Path to Statehood: An interfaith dialogue will promote coexistence. Once PA reforms succeed, conditions may allow a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood.


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Don’t quote me anything, mate
 
Goenitz said:
Many predicted that. That is why there was no briefing or minutes released after the meeting.

If Trump is blabbering own its own, then our rulers provided this opportunity. That is why Modi didn't meet Trump a month ago, because Trump could say anything that Modi asked him to resolve Kashmir etc.
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There are many fools here who think that if they accept that doctrine everything will become peaceful or bring progress. Those foolish people — the decision you are making goes against the will of the local people and the wishes of their ancestors; it does not reflect the views of the locals. You come into their lands and speak for outsiders, you speak in their homes as if you are from outside — do you think that will bring peace? You are mad. The people defending this are even bigger traitors.
 
This woman is Pro Israel . She knew what is coming.
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