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Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion
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Cash gk
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1. Who are you to decide the fate of the Palestinians.
2. Who are you to support Trumps’ 20 point agenda when you know that 13 out of 20 points are not acceptable to the Palestinians and never will be.
3. Tony Blair as the Governor of Palestine ? The butcher of Iraq.
4. A Palestine with no right to self defence ? No army. No navy. No Airforce. And not even their own police.
Have you even read the 20 points of Trump or you just agreed to it out of slavery.
2. Who are you to support Trumps’ 20 point agenda when you know that 13 out of 20 points are not acceptable to the Palestinians and never will be.
3. Tony Blair as the Governor of Palestine ? The butcher of Iraq.
4. A Palestine with no right to self defence ? No army. No navy. No Airforce. And not even their own police.
Have you even read the 20 points of Trump or you just agreed to it out of slavery.
flyingorca
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I think at this point all arabs have surrendered to Israel and will not retaliate. Pak saudi alliance is mere ceremonial and has no strategic value. After Pakistan understanding all this, they have decided to make some peace deals with Israel to save their own butts.
Also at this point, Palestine should accept defeat and relocate to neighboring arab countries or even to west. Too many civilians are dying. Israel has already been exposed to the world as the enemy.
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, during several battles, made decisions to minimize civilian harm and safeguard the community. A few key events where he either withdrew or repositioned to protect civilians include:
Battle of Uhud (625 CE): The Prophet initially had the upper hand, but when archers left their posts, the Muslims were exposed. He himself was injured and pulled back toward the mountain, focusing on protecting his companions and non-combatants.
Battle of the Trench (627 CE): Instead of direct fighting, the Prophet chose a defensive strategy (digging the trench) that prevented large-scale bloodshed in Medina and protected civilians.
Treaty of Hudaybiyyah (628 CE): Not a battle, but he accepted a truce with the Quraysh—even though it seemed unfavorable to Muslims at first—in order to avoid conflict and protect his people.
Also at this point, Palestine should accept defeat and relocate to neighboring arab countries or even to west. Too many civilians are dying. Israel has already been exposed to the world as the enemy.
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, during several battles, made decisions to minimize civilian harm and safeguard the community. A few key events where he either withdrew or repositioned to protect civilians include:
Battle of Uhud (625 CE): The Prophet initially had the upper hand, but when archers left their posts, the Muslims were exposed. He himself was injured and pulled back toward the mountain, focusing on protecting his companions and non-combatants.
Battle of the Trench (627 CE): Instead of direct fighting, the Prophet chose a defensive strategy (digging the trench) that prevented large-scale bloodshed in Medina and protected civilians.
Treaty of Hudaybiyyah (628 CE): Not a battle, but he accepted a truce with the Quraysh—even though it seemed unfavorable to Muslims at first—in order to avoid conflict and protect his people.
muhammed45
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TB is a blood thirsty animal.
Broghil
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Accepting Israel is too big of a political baggage for any political party or even establishment to carry. I don't think that they would go this far.
I don't think Pak would even send it's troops to Gaza as a peace keeping force or something like that.
I don't think Pak would even send it's troops to Gaza as a peace keeping force or something like that.
RescueRanger
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PakistanLVR
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Unpopular Opinion, but my concerns are the following.
I want the Saudis to start deporting Indians specifically Hindus from Saudi Arabia and the Peninsula in mass. This is a good-willed gesture to let Pakistan know that they will back up Pakistan with deeds and cold hard decisions instead of letting Hindus roaming freely around the blessed cities.
Secondly, this treaty will not be used to further the aims of the Israelis and the Americans (both are working in cahoots). I do not want Pakistani forces fighting other Muslims nations or groups.
Thirdly, No recognition of the mass-murdering regime. This better not be a backdoor way to force recognition onto Pakistan. We all saw that hideous woman Junejo sitting right behind the DM at the UNGA.
The Saudis can sell oil to the Hindus but once the next round starts, they better jump right in the midst of it, and better not try to veto mass retaliation (hopefully against Hindu civilian targets and economic points).
Other than that, it's all Kosher (or Halal) for me.
I want the Saudis to start deporting Indians specifically Hindus from Saudi Arabia and the Peninsula in mass. This is a good-willed gesture to let Pakistan know that they will back up Pakistan with deeds and cold hard decisions instead of letting Hindus roaming freely around the blessed cities.
Secondly, this treaty will not be used to further the aims of the Israelis and the Americans (both are working in cahoots). I do not want Pakistani forces fighting other Muslims nations or groups.
Thirdly, No recognition of the mass-murdering regime. This better not be a backdoor way to force recognition onto Pakistan. We all saw that hideous woman Junejo sitting right behind the DM at the UNGA.
The Saudis can sell oil to the Hindus but once the next round starts, they better jump right in the midst of it, and better not try to veto mass retaliation (hopefully against Hindu civilian targets and economic points).
Other than that, it's all Kosher (or Halal) for me.
Broghil
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At the same time I don't think Pak was doing any wonders on foreign relations front during IK. Every Govt has made many bad decisions and many good ones. It will all come down to how many of these thing materialise into reality and how things pan out in future.
Accepting Abraham accord without two state solution may not be such an easily acceptable solution for many countries.
Accepting Abraham accord without two state solution may not be such an easily acceptable solution for many countries.
r3alist
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Fair point here. Relevant framing
r3alist
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This if, is a big big if for India
Do you guys not forget didn't it take something like two weeks for India to muster up a failing strategy and actually attack
India has to seriously make nice with the west otherwise it will be pounded by the rest of the world. Do you think China will risk its global reputation of arms manufacturing, they will want Pakistan to do at least as well.
What the heck is a sindoor? What the heck is this permanent military operation between two nuclear States?
Has anyone even remotely validated India's original claims?
It's an absurdity, it's too serious to let Indians make a decision on
No wonder it's been moved to the cricket field. Clownish.
hydrabadi_arab
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See India in panican mode already have started to step back from unconditional Israel support, read latest BRICS statement.
India see writing on the wall. This pact have shackled them. GCC will sign abraham accords 2.0 with Israel along with Pakistan but they will not forget where India stood before that.
India see writing on the wall. This pact have shackled them. GCC will sign abraham accords 2.0 with Israel along with Pakistan but they will not forget where India stood before that.
A1Kaid
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I see some confusion on the forum re Two State Solution
Supporting a two-state solution (a sovereign State of Palestine alongside Israel) does not automatically mean Pakistan recognizes Israel diplomatically nor needs to sign Abraham Accords.
Recognition is a separate policy decision tied to Palestinian rights.
Supporting a two-state solution (a sovereign State of Palestine alongside Israel) does not automatically mean Pakistan recognizes Israel diplomatically nor needs to sign Abraham Accords.
Recognition is a separate policy decision tied to Palestinian rights.
clutch
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The Saudi Pakistani defense agreement is not really a defense agreement at all.
Apparently it's a agreement for Pakistan to join the Abraham accords and to recognize Israel.
The Pakistani corrupt regime and government has made a deal with the devil. Only the fools are thinking this is a defense agreement. Is timed perfectly.
Time came exactly when Israel attacked Qatar. That gave the umbrella of this so-called defense agreement between Saudi and Pakistan made all the sheep believe that this was in response to that.b not at all. This has been in the works forever. Pakistan is betraying the Palestinians and the Gaza up and is going to join on the murder.
Apparently it's a agreement for Pakistan to join the Abraham accords and to recognize Israel.
The Pakistani corrupt regime and government has made a deal with the devil. Only the fools are thinking this is a defense agreement. Is timed perfectly.
Time came exactly when Israel attacked Qatar. That gave the umbrella of this so-called defense agreement between Saudi and Pakistan made all the sheep believe that this was in response to that.b not at all. This has been in the works forever. Pakistan is betraying the Palestinians and the Gaza up and is going to join on the murder.
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