Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[UndercoverJIX]

Why are we focusing on Iran too much?
Iran has no Air Force, and JF cant be realistically used as SAMs against Iranian missiles. Number od Missiles Iran can fire at a time, makes this deployment redundant or sitting duck.....

Why this deployment cant be a message to Israel??? I think this is the main reason.
Pak Saudi Pact was signed right after Iraeli attack on Qatar.
Pakistan coming into this mix will slow down Israeli advancement etc, ultimately countering Israel in the Gulf and stopping any advancement and gains is benificial for Pakistan....

Pakistan has to be there to deal with Israel, waiting for them to reach in our neighbourhood will be a disastrous.

We know sooner or later, Pakistan has to face Israel directly.

 

[Ali_Baba]

could be an indication that ksa is getting rid of the american bases.

I think so too. The Americans do want to leave the middle east, and Israel keeps dragging them back to the middle east. Pakistan can step in, as a net security provider both militarily and with good relations with all the countries of the ME ( barring UAE it seems now ).

Pakistan will need funding from these middle eastern countries, as it clearly has a miliary that is capable of providing the skills and capability for that. This is no different to the many tens of billions that these Arab countries have provided to the USA for their "security cover", so materially not that different to the Arab countries.

Also, India pitched its tent in the "conquest and control of the middle east" camp with Israel to try and occupy that gap that the Americans would create by leaving, whereas Pakistan favoured diplomacy and built its foundations on trust and capability.

Pakistan's strategy seems to be working better, and the Americans saw during Sindoor, that militarily, Pakistan knows what it is doing.

 

[PK781]

hopefully things can work out and peace can prevail, otherwise entire world is looking at a lot of pain (food supply, families torn apart due to travel, oil shortages, shipping disruptions) and if this leads to regional or bigger war, then we're all done for.
The world needs to wake up and realize that nobody will stay UNAFFECTED by these wars, eventually it'll catch up.
I'm glad on this KSA-Pakistan strategic pact, and hope it grows and delivers what it is intended for.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Yes, very true.

Longer term we may need to look at Pakistanis working in UAE, get the feeling Visas for them will be difficult to come by going forward.....

Since the Saudi's are trying to get the "financial hub" cap from UAE, they can all decamp to Saudi if UAE's visa's become a problem and help Saudi's build up that capability, aswell as return home and do some startups in Pakistan.

Thoughts on a different thread on this :

Post in thread 'US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War'

Apr 11, 2026

You get 7.5 billion dollars of yearly remittances from UAE , do you believe Iran and gas pipeline can accommodate this loss ? ..... Pakistan will go bankrupt in no time if PDF pundits are given control over Pakistan's financial and foreign policies.

Its time Pakistan started not export its best and brightest people to UAE, and instead create opportunities at home for them to help Pakistan grow. UAE's success has been built on expat labour, out of 11million people, there is only 1.5 million "locals".

The people who moved to work in the UAE have had the opportunity to work with...

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[UndercoverJIX]

Complete Air Defence at King Abdul Aziz Air base was setup by Pakistan very very early 80s. Deputation used to be for 3 Years, exteded under certain conditions.

 

[Hazard]

I've been telling people here this defence pact is more serious then some want to think. Not even ground invasion of Iran is ruled out in worst case scenario.

The only question is what we get in return for providing this kind of commitment?

Realistically speaking what can we possibly get from the Saudis in return other than few $$s? I don't think Pakistan thought this pact through properly. It doesn't benefit us as much as it benefits the Saudis. Cheap blood for them to expend, but they most certainly wont be turning up to fight our wars.
Once again our leaders have let us down.

 

[Yasser76]

Why are we focusing on Iran too much?
Iran has no Air Force, and JF cant be realistically used as SAMs against Iranian missiles. Number od Missiles Iran can fire at a time, makes this deployment redundant or sitting duck.....

Why this deployment cant be a message to Israel??? I think this is the main reason.
Pak Saudi Pact was signed right after Iraeli attack on Qatar.
Pakistan coming into this mix will slow down Israeli advancement etc, ultimately countering Israel in the Gulf and stopping any advancement and gains is benificial for Pakistan....

Pakistan has to be there to deal with Israel, waiting for them to reach in our neighbourhood will be a disastrous.

We know sooner or later, Pakistan has to face Israel directly.

Yes, 100% agree.

I think for a long time we knew facing Israel would come. Good thing we have going for us other then nukes is

1) IMRBM - Israel is within range by default as many of our missiles were designed to cover all of India as far as Andaman Islands
2) 8 Cruise missile armed Hangors means Israel knows one can easily be lurking a few miles from Haifa, and Israel Navy has a very limited anti-submarine warfare capability, they never really needed it in the past
3) Land bases. To get to Pakistan Israel now has to go a very very long way, to the extremes of their operating distance, even with refuellers. Without US support, they will not have this capability. They will need 30 plus refullers minimum, Pakistan can now rely on Saudi bases at Tabuk and Sakakah, ony a less then 200 miles away from Israel
4) Their premier BVR is still the AMRAAM

Do not get me wrong, Israel are indeed formidable, but Pak retains many advantages.

 

[Ibbi32]

I am curious about the number of aircraft sent, 2 tankers suggests a force made up of 8-10 aircraft, it's likely atleast 1 or 2 Erieyes have been sent since they can act as intermediaries between link 17 used by JF-17s and J-10Cs and the mostly link 16 saudi network.

2 tankers might be for jf-17 . F-16s can also be sent but would be dependent on us and Saudi tankers

 

[Raja Porus]

Depends, if Eastern border has calmed down we could spare an Inf Div from V Corps in Karachi....

We are already at a disadvantage there with increased Indian presence near Bhuj plus coastal route (less probable). Also most of it is mechanised

 

[Yasser76]

We are already at a disadvantage there with increased Indian presence near Bhuj plus coastal route (less probable). Also most of it is mechanised

Very difficult terrain and we would see an Indian build up long time ahead. Karachi Corps never really considered our razor edge. A Brigade or even a Division can be spared. If it is light infantry then getting them back home will not be a problem now we have access to RSAF air lift

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Yes, 100% agree.

I think for a long time we knew facing Israel would come. Good thing we have going for us other then nukes is

1) IMRBM - Israel is within range by default as many of our missiles were designed to cover all of India as far as Andaman Islands
2) 8 Cruise missile armed Hangors means Israel knows one can easily be lurking a few miles from Haifa, and Israel Navy has a very limited anti-submarine warfare capability, they never really needed it in the past
3) Land bases. To get to Pakistan Israel now has to go a very very long way, to the extremes of their operating distance, even with refuellers. Without US support, they will not have this capability. They will need 30 plus refullers minimum, Pakistan can now rely on Saudi bases at Tabuk and Sakakah, ony a less then 200 miles away from Israel
4) Their premier BVR is still the AMRAAM

Do not get me wrong, Israel are indeed formidable, but Pak retains many advantages.

the once who needs to know what Pakistan is capable of, they know it well.

Once in a while Mother and father like to test us, they think political instability will have an effect on our readiness........

As for Israel reaching Pakistan, they have used Indian lands before and will definitely use again, joint exercises of mummy daddy are not unheard...Mummy llikes to.....

 

[Yasser76]

the once who needs to know what Pakistan is capable of, they know it well.

Once in a while Mother and father like to test us, they think political instability will have an effect on our readiness........

As for Israel reaching Pakistan, they have used Indian lands before and will definitely use again, joint exercises of mummy daddy are not unheard...Mummy llikes to.....

Yeah, but then that would mean India has decided to attack us and we have a two front problem anyway, I am assuming they are left out of it, but you have a good point.

 

[Ibbi32]

Depends, if Eastern border has calmed down we could spare an Inf Div from V Corps in Karachi....

Why V corps? Afaik its ussualy western divs that go to ME and weve not done division wide foreign deployments in some time. FC can handle western front so likely 7th division will go

 

[Raja Porus]

Very difficult terrain and we would see an Indian build up long time ahead. Karachi Corps never really considered our razor edge. A Brigade or even a Division can be spared. If it is light infantry then getting them back home will not be a problem now we have access to RSAF air lift

Not being argumentative but you do know how hard pressed we are in terms of infantry for western border with most of our strike formations already under strength because of it and frequency of Ops area rotations is already too tiring and wearing us down. Still OTOH sending troops on deputation would be great for them at personal level.

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Yeah, but then that would mean India has decided to attack us and we have a two front problem anyway, I am assuming they are left out of it, but you have a good point.

They can not be left out, India is waiting for any opportunity....

They have tried alone so many times, and failed......