Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

So we’re trying to open a strait for our oil shipping that was already open before the US and Saudis shenanigans started great All this proved the most powerful military proving US and Arabs is just how ineffective they’ve been in the Bab-Al- Mandab US actually are. Maybe talks with Houthis may be a better option for us?
can Islamabad please after this crisis switch to Iran completing Iran pipeline this Arab and Iranian rivalry ain’t our problem anymore. It’s so frustrating our planners didn’t see a crisis in this coming in this unstable part of the world. and had no alternative plans getting oil from another country.

Someone has already pointed your illogical reasoning w.r.t totally relying on Iran, but I wanna ask you, when you said Pakistan didn't make any alternative plans, who do you think would've provided Pakistan oil on deferred payments or on credit beside Saudia, Kuwait, Uae and Qatar?
 
Houthi spokesman denies Bab al-Mandab closure, says naval blockade targets Saudi Arabia only


Yemen’s Houthi movement has denied that it has shut down the strategic Bab al-Mandab strait, stating that its naval operations are strictly limited to a targeted blockade against Saudi Arabia, Al Jazeera reports.

Mohammed Abdul Salam, the chief negotiator and spokesperson for the group, dismissed claims of a full waterway shutdown in a post on X.

“There is no closure of the Bab al-Mandab Strait as some promote,” he writes.

“The position of Yemen, as announced by the Yemeni armed forces, is limited to a maritime blockade that only affects the Saudi side, in response to its siege of Yemen and its refusal to accept any fair approach to a solution that guarantees the security, sovereignty and independence of the Yemeni people."

Looks like someone got the message
 
What a bucket full of crap ! Bottom lines is soH is closed and Bab Al Mandeb is under threat... Pakistan needs to secure her oil supply...Iran , Saudi and GCC can go to hell.... Pakistan is a regional power, no pussyfooting and no need to overanalyze things.... it's our moral obligation and strategic responsibility to keep these straits open to the best of our ability....Iran is a neighbour and we wish him well , however we have negligible economic interest with her and we don't trust her long term strategic trajectory.....we can't be held hostage by her proxies in Pakistan.


Omg … 😦


Who could have foreseen this large Tribal militia who have made a mockery of the powerful US military from re-entering the Red Sea.. frray……oh yes nothing a few days of billion pound a day bombing campaign by our Pakistan Navy cant solve … right?
 
Someone has already pointed your illogical reasoning w.r.t totally relying on Iran, but I wanna ask you, when you said Pakistan didn't make any alternative plans, who do you think would've provided Pakistan oil on deferred payments or on credit beside Saudia, Kuwait, Uae and Qatar?



Pakistan had no plan.

Restart the Iran pipeline. It’s an emergency… do it now.

Shipping oil from supplier who now can not get its oil out due the Iranian and Houthis blockade.

Learn from other oil importing countries don’t just rely on one supplier
 
Pakistan had no plan.

Restart the Iran pipeline. It’s an emergency… do it now.

Shipping oil from supplier who now can not get its oil out due the Iranian and Houthis blockade.

Learn from other oil importing countries don’t just rely on one supplier

Iran don't provide on credits or on deferred payments. Do you understand that? And whole lot of other issues like for one building that pipeline with Iran would have invited sanctions on Pakistan by USA and a earned a definite spot on FATF blacklist. Do you think just to get that pipeline or oil, Pakistan would be suffering economically in other ways?
 
Iran don't provide on credits or on deferred payments. Do you understand that? And whole lot of other issues like for one building that pipeline with Iran would have invited sanctions on Pakistan by USA and a earned a definite spot on FATF blacklist. Do you think just to get that pipeline or oil, Pakistan would be suffering economically in other ways?



Nah … the problem is the Pakistanis

You chickened out when Imran Khan was discussing cheap Russian Oil and gas. For that he was thrown in to a dark dungeon Prison cell.

West knows your threshold. Scared of your own shadows
 
Iran don't provide on credits or on deferred payments. Do you understand that? And whole lot of other issues like for one building that pipeline with Iran would have invited sanctions on Pakistan by USA and a earned a definite spot on FATF blacklist. Do you think just to get that pipeline or oil, Pakistan would be suffering economically in other ways?
The Pak Deep State has no problem with a porous border with Iran for a reason. The West can't say much for they are behind the unrest in Baluchistan. It's an "occupational hazard" for them....
 
The Pak Deep State has no problem with a porous border with Iran for a reason. The West can't say much for they are behind the unrest in Baluchistan. It's an "occupational hazard" for them....
i did not get sir . what do you mean ?
 
Nah … the problem is the Pakistanis

You chickened out when Imran Khan was discussing cheap Russian Oil and gas. For that he was thrown in to a dark dungeon Prison cell.

West knows your threshold. Scared of your own shadows
The Pak Deep State would never antagonize the West to a point of no-return for they're in general Christians. As per Merhum Israr Ahmed (RA), the Christians are employed by HIM to punish the Believers in this world when they transgress too much. The wisdom is to let them get "worldly accounts" settled while in this world, so that they get a clean cheat in the hereafter; otherwise, they have to be thrown into hell fire to compensate for that. As for the non-believers, they'll remain in hell forever. The Pak Deep State knows the transgressions it commits, so it avoids to hasten the punishment.....

A known enemy is better than an unknown friend.....

*According to Imam-i Rabbani (RA), the Fitne and Fesat the Muslims face in this Dunya are the Keffara for the collective Gunah they commit.
 
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Nah … the problem is the Pakistanis

You chickened out when Imran Khan was discussing cheap Russian Oil and gas. For that he was thrown in to a dark dungeon Prison cell.

West knows your threshold. Scared of your own shadows

Russian crude isn’t some plug and play miracle. Refineries are designed and optimised for particular crude grades...modifications require sustained use, lengthy and expensive upgrades aswell.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian strikes have damaged Russian refineries so badly that Russian companies are now approaching Indian refiners for gasoline ..so your whole point goes down the toilet there.

But sure, keep preaching IK delusions..like he was some kind of a marvel hero..who could somehow
remove Iran-Pakistan Gas sanctions, solve port constraints, and guarantee supplies. He can't even gather 100 people outside liberty.. America ki sanctions uthwayga ?
 
Nah … the problem is the Pakistanis

You chickened out when Imran Khan was discussing cheap Russian Oil and gas. For that he was thrown in to a dark dungeon Prison cell.

West knows your threshold. Scared of your own shadows

This was really funny. Thank you for the laughs, it's been a boring day.
 
The Pak Deep State has no problem with a porous border with Iran for a reason. The West can't say much for they are behind the unrest in Baluchistan. It's an "occupational hazard" for them....
While I agree with you, it's more complicated, especially on the Iranian side, they have built a large wall yet still there's comings and goings, the weight of the question lays fully on the Iranian side.

On the Pakistani side, it was lack of important to the Iranian border because we don't consider it as a threat, brotherly this and that, baring terror activities but we had other fish to fry.

There was no border fence on the Pakistan side, and it was too long and difficult to control without mutual mechanisms, which just did not exist, we're still building on a suitable formula for mutual border security.

Plus, this region of Pakistan is least developed so economic flows with Iran allows for a local economy to exist, be it smuggling etc so more a case of looking the other way and let the people make a living. of course others will also skim from the top.

But Pakistan did not shout about the issues much, thinking it'l settle down eventually. It's the Iranian who've been crying, building walls yet still lacked control, was that willful? I would say it was.
 
Russian crude isn’t some plug and play miracle. Refineries are designed and optimised for particular crude grades...modifications require sustained use, lengthy and expensive upgrades aswell.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian strikes have damaged Russian refineries so badly that Russian companies are now approaching Indian refiners for gasoline ..so your whole point goes down the toilet there.

But sure, keep preaching IK delusions..like he was some kind of a marvel hero..who could somehow
remove Iran-Pakistan Gas sanctions, solve port constraints, and guarantee supplies. He can't even gather 100 people outside liberty.. America ki sanctions uthwayga ?



India never accepted or stopped buying Russian oil😊there’s no shortage stop fooling people.

Pakistan should have just borrowed some money from Zardari and Shariff instead of asking for $10 Billion loan from Trump .. 😜
 
Nah … the problem is the Pakistanis

You chickened out when Imran Khan was discussing cheap Russian Oil and gas. For that he was thrown in to a dark dungeon Prison cell.

West knows your threshold. Scared of your own shadows
And we’re back to “Allah hi Allah kiya karo - ‘magar sajde imran ko kiya karo”
 

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