Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

dont waste your time with this Watandar guy .... He doesnt have the capacity to listen to facts, i have tried that multiple times.
Exactly completely hopeless character this guy.

So much bias. @Watandar & @Lulldapull and few others would drool over Iran loving even at the cost of their own country. They have made their mind. No amount of logic or facts would change that. I don't want Pakistanis to be in Pro-Irani camp or Pro-Saudi camp. We all should be in Pro-Pakistan camp. It is impossible that Iran or any group or any political party which they support is ALWAYS and all the time correct. They have no stamina and no grace to acknowledge when the camp which they worship can be wrong too at times.

There is no objectivity and no credibility for such people who have ZERO record of giving any sort of statement against their camp till date. Even once you pass a statement against any action of your worshiped group will show that you are not blinded. Integrity demands that one should see things with facts only and should have courage to give statements against their camp when their camp is wrong at times. When you are hell bent on defending a certain group or a camp then there's absolutely no point in discussing anything as no amount of logic and no amount of facts would make an effect on that thick skull.

I am with Iran all along this war and still want it all the best. But when Iran hit commercial ships during a freshly created ceasefire under MoU drafted & signed after tireless efforts then I had the courage to call out Iran. Who benefitted from torpedoing the MoU the most? Certainly not Iran. Israel benefited the most. Iranian ports again blockaded. Thick skulls of IRGC should have understood that hitting commercial ships in ceasefire is not going to help them. Now Israel is watching with popcorns and Iran has no guts to attack it. The same Israel which created this war at first place. Secondly these unconditional Pro-Iranians were saying so much things against UAE but when Iran hit commercial ships and destroyed the MoU they helped UAE the most. As now Iran cannot sell its oil, other GCC countries facing problems but UAE is doing record sales via Fujairah. Two countries these pro-iranians used to blame all the time Israel and uae. But with their hypocrisy now they won't say a word on it because their master Iran isn't or unable to do anything against them. Iran shoot only itself in the foot by restarting this war. Its like celebrations in Israel that Iran is getting bombed because of the war Israel planned and created but Iran don't have any guts to attack it now. Iran is left with no choice but to re-attack same bases again and again lol. Iran is out of options.

Lastly, the whole point of hitting commercial ships and restarting war by Iran is completely unacceptable for any country of the world including us Pakistan. How dare a single country want to assert its control over international water way ? Our ships also pass by through it, why they should follow a certain route and seek permission from a certain so-called authority to pass? This is absurdity. Its even bigger blunder by Iran for itself because the whole point of closing or controling Strait of hormuz is to be used by Iran as a leverage only. Iran could have done that anytime in future if threatened by war again. But if Iran wants to keep the control all the time then it will just lose the only leverage it ever had. Countries will focus on pipelines and alternates and its enemies will keep bombing it as they'd know Iran don't have any further leverage and its already using all it can.

In the end, we all know Iran was never a technological or military power. It was lucky only because of geography that heavily favored it because of SOH. But in first phase of war Iran got over confident and thought they militarily defeated US (who lost 16 members till date) and no US city, no US leadership even touched.

Edit: LOL @Watandar amateur and lil girly behavior by just making laughing or dislike reactions. I challenge you brainwashed and bias guys to show me a single post of yours where you had the courage to speak against your worshipped camp. That is what integrity demands. If you are so blinded to defend a certain camp unconditionally then you are a LOST CAUSE. That unconditional support should be only for your own country and none other.
 
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Exactly completely hopeless character this guy.

So much bias. @Watandar & @Lulldapull and few others would drool over Iran loving even at the cost of their own country. They have made their mind. No amount of logic or facts would change that. I don't want Pakistanis to be in Pro-Irani camp or Pro-Saudi camp. We all should be in Pro-Pakistan camp. It is impossible that Iran or any group or any political party which they support is ALWAYS and all the time correct. They have no stamina and no grace to acknowledge when the camp which they worship can be wrong too at times.

There is no objectivity and no credibility for such people who have ZERO record of giving any sort of statement against their camp till date. Even once you pass a statement against any action of your worshiped group will show that you are not blinded. Integrity demands that one should see things with facts only and should have courage to give statements against their camp when their camp is wrong at times. When you are hell bent on defending a certain group or a camp then there's absolutely no point in discussing anything as no amount of logic and no amount of facts would make an effect on that thick skull.

I am with Iran all along this war and still want it all the best. But when Iran hit commercial ships during a freshly created ceasefire under MoU drafted & signed after tireless efforts then I had the courage to call out Iran. Who benefitted from torpedoing the MoU the most? Certainly not Iran. Israel benefited the most. Iranian ports again blockaded. Thick skulls of IRGC should have understood that hitting commercial ships in ceasefire is not going to help them. Now Israel is watching with popcorns and Iran has no guts to attack it. The same Israel which created this war at first place. Secondly these unconditional Pro-Iranians were saying so much things against UAE but when Iran hit commercial ships and destroyed the MoU they helped UAE the most. As now Iran cannot sell its oil, other GCC countries facing problems but UAE is doing record sales via Fujairah. Two countries these pro-iranians used to blame all the time Israel and uae. But with their hypocrisy now they won't say a word on it because their master Iran isn't or unable to do anything against them. Iran shoot only itself in the foot by restarting this war. Its like celebrations in Israel that Iran is getting bombed because of the war Israel planned and created but Iran don't have any guts to attack it now. Iran is left with no choice but to re-attack same bases again and again lol. Iran is out of options.

Lastly, the whole point of hitting commercial ships and restarting war by Iran is completely unacceptable for any country of the world including us Pakistan. How dare a single country want to assert its control over international water way ? Our ships also pass by through it, why they should follow a certain route and seek permission from a certain so-called authority to pass? This is absurdity. Its even bigger blunder by Iran for itself because the whole point of closing or controling Strait of hormuz is to be used by Iran as a leverage only. Iran could have done that anytime in future if threatened by war again. But if Iran wants to keep the control all the time then it will just lose the only leverage it ever had. Countries will focus on pipelines and alternates and its enemies will keep bombing it as they'd know Iran don't have any further leverage and its already using all it can.

In the end, we all know Iran was never a technological or military power. It was lucky only because of geography that heavily favored it because of SOH. But in first phase of war Iran got over confident and thought they militarily defeated US (who lost 16 members till date) and no US city, no US leadership even touched.
The mod has requested several times on this thread not to launch personal attacks on other members. Kindly respect the rules and stay on topic.

Oh and nobody reads such long rants either.
 
The mod has requested several times on this thread not to launch personal attacks on other members. Kindly respect the rules and stay on topic.

Oh and nobody reads such long rants either.

No personal attack was made. and yes you read it full because it was intended to school you. : )

How else you would improve then ? Just don't give blinded unconditional support to any group. This takes away any credibility whatsoever. No now matter how many posts you write and no matter how many dislikes / or make faces would have zero effect as everyone would know you are bias.
 
No personal attack was made. and yes you read it full because it was intended to school you. : )

How else you would improve then ? Just don't give blinded unconditional support to any group. This takes away any credibility whatsoever. No now matter how many posts you write and no matter how many dislikes / or make faces would have zero effect as everyone would know you are bias.
Your obsession with me is somewhat flattering however I doubt people are interested in the difficulties you are experiencing in handling rejection. Please return to the thread topic.
 
Your obsession with me is somewhat flattering however I doubt people are interested in the difficulties you are experiencing in handling rejection. Please return to the thread topic.

Your post is self evident and contradictory. You are derailing the topic in personal battle, write personal remarks and then show complete hypocrisy by writing a line in the end "Please return to the topic". That's open and clear hypocrisy.

I did honest effort for you to step up and improve and not be fixated or rigid mindset. Show unconditional support for your own country only. Don't get divided into camps. You took whole thing negatively. Anyways, I am done with it. Hope both of us will learn a thing or two from this.
 
Your post is self evident and contradictory. You are derailing the topic in personal battle, write personal remarks and then show complete hypocrisy by writing a line in the end "Please return to the topic". That's open and clear hypocrisy.

I did honest effort for you to step up and improve and not be fixated or rigid mindset. Show unconditional support for your own country only. Don't get divided into camps. You took whole thing negatively. Anyways, I am done with it. Hope both of us will learn a thing or two from this.
Please stop this attention seeking behavior and return to thread topic.

Hope this helps.
 
Exactly completely hopeless character this guy.

So much bias. @Watandar & @Lulldapull and few others would drool over Iran loving even at the cost of their own country. They have made their mind. No amount of logic or facts would change that. I don't want Pakistanis to be in Pro-Irani camp or Pro-Saudi camp. We all should be in Pro-Pakistan camp. It is impossible that Iran or any group or any political party which they support is ALWAYS and all the time correct. They have no stamina and no grace to acknowledge when the camp which they worship can be wrong too at times.

There is no objectivity and no credibility for such people who have ZERO record of giving any sort of statement against their camp till date. Even once you pass a statement against any action of your worshiped group will show that you are not blinded. Integrity demands that one should see things with facts only and should have courage to give statements against their camp when their camp is wrong at times. When you are hell bent on defending a certain group or a camp then there's absolutely no point in discussing anything as no amount of logic and no amount of facts would make an effect on that thick skull.

I am with Iran all along this war and still want it all the best. But when Iran hit commercial ships during a freshly created ceasefire under MoU drafted & signed after tireless efforts then I had the courage to call out Iran. Who benefitted from torpedoing the MoU the most? Certainly not Iran. Israel benefited the most. Iranian ports again blockaded. Thick skulls of IRGC should have understood that hitting commercial ships in ceasefire is not going to help them. Now Israel is watching with popcorns and Iran has no guts to attack it. The same Israel which created this war at first place. Secondly these unconditional Pro-Iranians were saying so much things against UAE but when Iran hit commercial ships and destroyed the MoU they helped UAE the most. As now Iran cannot sell its oil, other GCC countries facing problems but UAE is doing record sales via Fujairah. Two countries these pro-iranians used to blame all the time Israel and uae. But with their hypocrisy now they won't say a word on it because their master Iran isn't or unable to do anything against them. Iran shoot only itself in the foot by restarting this war. Its like celebrations in Israel that Iran is getting bombed because of the war Israel planned and created but Iran don't have any guts to attack it now. Iran is left with no choice but to re-attack same bases again and again lol. Iran is out of options.

Lastly, the whole point of hitting commercial ships and restarting war by Iran is completely unacceptable for any country of the world including us Pakistan. How dare a single country want to assert its control over international water way ? Our ships also pass by through it, why they should follow a certain route and seek permission from a certain so-called authority to pass? This is absurdity. Its even bigger blunder by Iran for itself because the whole point of closing or controling Strait of hormuz is to be used by Iran as a leverage only. Iran could have done that anytime in future if threatened by war again. But if Iran wants to keep the control all the time then it will just lose the only leverage it ever had. Countries will focus on pipelines and alternates and its enemies will keep bombing it as they'd know Iran don't have any further leverage and its already using all it can.

In the end, we all know Iran was never a technological or military power. It was lucky only because of geography that heavily favored it because of SOH. But in first phase of war Iran got over confident and thought they militarily defeated US (who lost 16 members till date) and no US city, no US leadership even touched.

Edit: LOL @Watandar amateur and lil girly behavior by just making laughing or dislike reactions. I challenge you brainwashed and bias guys to show me a single post of yours where you had the courage to speak against your worshipped camp. That is what integrity demands. If you are so blinded to defend a certain camp unconditionally then you are a LOST CAUSE. That unconditional support should be only for your own country and none other.
Oh paee we are just as pendu as you no?

Problem now is Abbu-G humreeka can't fight dem Iranis no?

I mean you can see it no?

Sharmeela honay say to kuchh ne hona ab right.

It is what it is.....Abbu G humreeka can't win this bro.
 
been reading this thread!

sheer stupidity of some 'seniors' beyond belief!

IR is attacking arabs, bec, they are partner in crime 1. they are attacking them 2. they hold the key to circulating petro dollars, which helps in converting US debt into assets!


if IR attacks zios instead, there would be less justification to close down, the straight!


lastly, Arabs keep harping about their wealth in dollars, I should break it to them!

once, $$ flow stops of petro dollars, you are nothing more than beggars!

wealth in Black Rock funds, are marked to market, they are not allowed to buy gold mines!
 
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Opps so much for unguided missiles by "cavemen"
 
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Bhai last thing I want to see is our boyz sitting in those bombed out US bases in the GCC catching Irani drones n missiles or going after hoosi baaghi in those Yemeni hills.

Fuckk that!

We got enough junk in da trunk in Balochistan/ KP already.
 
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Opps so much for unguided missiles by "cavemen"

Try again "genius".

All claims of some imaginary small fire in 1 small oil tank in the Jizan Aramco bulk plant (and fires in general) is fake news and propaganda (as usual) much like their other low IQ fake news and propaganda which my earlier posts in this thread demonstrate as well for everyone to see.

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Houthi terrorist cultists eliminated:

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Bhai last thing I want to see is our boyz sitting in those bombed out US bases in the GCC catching Irani drones n missiles or going after hoosi baaghi in those Yemeni hills.

Fuckk that!

Exactly. Munira would be silly to get involved in this. We should keep well away but only pay Saudi lip service by saying a few sheikh-chillies
 
As for the retards here in this thread who propagandize low IQ drug-addicted Houthi terrorist cult propaganda;

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Two Saudi oil tankers departed through the Bab Al-Mandab Strait earlier today (as I wrote KSA and the Yemeni government is in control of the strait itself as well as Mayun island (Perim Island in the middle of the strait), not the drug-addicted backward Houthi terrorist cultists, leaving for Karachi.

In the past few days alone 20 + Saudi Arabian oil tankers and ships have left the Strait for Asia.

As I wrote, only 2 Saudi Arabian ships/tankers have been attacked since February. None of them destroyed but damaged. Being fixed currently.

The disruption has been minimal and as I wrote before, such disruptions will not be tolerated by either KSA or the international community as we are talking about one of the world's most busy and important waterways. It is not some small private swimming pool or public swimming pool or a little lake out in the middle of nowhere.

The Houthi terrorist cult only controls a very small coastline in Yemen and only the Hudaydah port. Their sole port and that only due to global pressure due to humanitarian questions which prevented KSA/Yemen from liberating it many years ago.
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The Houthi terrorist cult are mostly independent and only use the incompetent Iranian regime as their own personal piggy bank. We all saw how passive they have been since June 2025.

They, like all others in the Arab world (militias and terrorist groups) have their own agendas. They will use any outside help in order to further strengthen their own agendas. If the Iranian regime collapses tomorrow they will not care overly much - only care about how that would impact their own prospects.
 
Exactly. Munira would be silly to get involved in this. We should keep well away but only pay Saudi lip service by saying a few sheikh-chillies
Man we tried playing peacemaker a decade ago under Gen. Raheel in that Jizaan/ Maarib area and it almost ended in disaster. Good thing we pulled out.

Yemen is just a death trap.
 

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