Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[r3alist]

Aptly said....

The most important part of this pact is the guts shown by both Pak and the KSA. I have to give credit to MBS. The rest are all details......

India wants to put no skin in the game but wants to be considered the centrepiece in the game..... that it offers no value to

You can make whatever value judgement you wish, but no one can deny that Pakistan commits and sacrifices on its strategic decision

That sets a low bar to beat, and it's all India's fault for its perception of value, it just doesn't want to contribute or sacrifice

It is actually scandalous that the Americans took so long to come to this conclusion, as they have dithered for too long and in fact it's allowed China an easier path to rise

You fundamentally cannot incentivize the Indians to fight China, when the entire national narrative and psyche is geared towards Pakistan. The Americans should have seen this long ago

 

[Meengla]

You come up with the cutest angles
Taking your narrative, why has it resulted in India coming off the worst and being the most worried? Someone let you down

Aptly said....

The most important part of this pact is the guts shown by both Pak and the KSA. I have to give credit to MBS. The rest are all details......

For too many years, by too many Pakistanis, Turks and Persians there have been loose use of GCC Arabs as 'American stooges' etc. I never subscribed to such views and tried to say that the rich Arabs, maybe 'decadent', are simply trying to hold onto the prosperity which maybe due to the oil wealth but has also lifted tens of millions of their citizens out of poverty and indirectly hundreds of millions when you factor in expats living in those countries. Such lazy thought processes are never good. So many Pakistanis here had been calling the Pakistani military as American stooges blah blah without factoring in the grave threat Indian poses to Pakistan; and it seems most of such Pakistanis are the expat simpletons living in comfort in Western countries.

Back to the topic. Just discovered this Indian channel. While the guy barely gives any credit to Pakistan, despite the title of the video, this is a very good video. I couldn't believe Netanyahu named China in his blame game; he is the sitting PM of Israel!! I had to watch that segment of the video again and again to rule out AI audio.

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[gamaji]

Agree it would be huge mistake to handover the nukes. Leaving the nukes aside though, Pakistan is already considered "neutralized" by Zionists and the West. Not only its elite but middle class is hugely pro western and seeks to immigrate , do business with and eventually send their assets to the West or 2nd tier western vassals like Dubai. The feeble economy of the country makes it entirely dependent on Western bailouts.

Its why you dont hear much from them about Pakistan. They see country as useful for geopolitical hitjobs from time to time. Only issue for West is how to eventually de-nuclearize Pakistan, which they have not figured out yet.

"Pakistan is already considered "neutralized" by Zionists and the West." How, bro? Just because "its elite but middle class is hugely pro western and seeks to immigrate , do business with and eventually send their assets to the West or 2nd tier western vassals like Dubai."? Strange logic. Then the whole third world has already been "neutralized" by Zionists and the West.

 

[Meengla]

"Pakistan is already considered "neutralized" by Zionists and the West." How, bro? Just because "its elite but middle class is hugely pro western and seeks to immigrate , do business with and eventually send their assets to the West or 2nd tier western vassals like Dubai."? Strange logic. Then the whole third world has already been "neutralized" by Zionists and the West.

Right.
But unfortunately you are communicating with another expat Pakistani sitting in the West with strange ideas about Pakistan. And as much as they try to deny this: They are very hard to communicate with because a certain Messiah Khan is not in power anymore.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

India wants to put no skin in the game but wants to be considered the centrepiece in the game..... that it offers no value to

You can make whatever value judgement you wish, but no one can deny that Pakistan commits and sacrifices on its strategic decision

That sets a low bar to beat, and it's all India's fault for its perception of value, it just doesn't want to contribute or sacrifice

It is actually scandalous that the Americans took so long to come to this conclusion, as they have dithered for too long and in fact it's allowed China an easier path to rise

You fundamentally cannot incentivize the Indians to fight China, when the entire national narrative and psyche is geared towards Pakistan. The Americans should have seen this long ago

But you must give Indians credit, they convinced Americans that they will eventually become their strategic partners. Just take 4 million Indians and have $230bn annual deficit with us. Along with shifting all your supply chain to India. Like someone said must one sided partnership in history of USA.

 

[maverick]

I don't think so. I think Israel doesn't fear nuclear weapons even if we place them on arabian soil. It will not change Israeli mindset as they are backed by superpower. this theory that american economy is dying etc, it's overhyped. They are rebuilding again. They still have the strongest army in this world.

They are hastening the coming of their messiah.. thats what nethanyahus goal is, in other words anti christ.. talmud says their savior will come when there will be mass destruction and killing..
there is no stopping israel now

 

[Starlord]

Right.
But unfortunately you are communicating with another expat Pakistani sitting in the West with strange ideas about Pakistan. And as much as they try to deny this: They are very hard to communicate with because a certain Messiah Khan is not in power anymore.

The fact that if this deal/PACT was signed by Imran Khan some poster boys will be calling it bigger than Sulah Hudabiya, and have declared Imran Khan to be greater Leader than Rasool Allah and Khulfa-e-Rashidun, I mean I won't be surprised if they worship the man or his pictures on some alters like some Shiaite factions literally bow down to Ali RA and consider him Nauzubillah Allah himself.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

They are hastening the coming of their messiah.. thats what nethanyahus goal is, in other words anti christ.. talmud says their savior will come when there will be mass destruction and killing..
there is no stopping israel now

When Iblis inserts this notion into you you're basically done....

Pharaoh also declared: "I am your lord, the most high" (79:24) and also "I know of no god for you but myself" (28:38).And, the rest is history....

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

President Trump, being an iconic American CEO, has made it amply clear to all: no more fckn babysitting; if you can't save your own a$$ too bad....

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Pak-Saudi Defense Pact Details, Donlad Trump Plan Revelead | Dr Maliha Lodhi | Baraks | EP 363​

 

[Tamerlane]

do you guys see where its going?

why do i have a spine shivering feeling of "Malhama"

Based on my study of Islamic prophecies, there are two battles foretold. One is the Al-Malḥamat Al-Kubra which is between the Muslims and Romans. This is one of the biggest, if not THE biggest battle in human history.

Muslims will win, inshallah, but only after suffering severe losses. The Romans will leave the region but Israel will still remain, and then the Antichrist (Dajjal) will appear after the war. He will be leading a Jewish army, so he’ll be the leader of Israel.

Next to appear is Isa AS (Jesus) who will kill the Antichrist in a location which is identified as near Tel Aviv airport today. This is the second battle and includes the total annihilation of Israeli forces. This war will be much less intense than the first one.

After that, Muslims will be united, inshallah, and the capital of the Caliphate will be Jerusalem. Many Christians will become Muslim and the promise in the Quran of making Islam dominant over all religions will be fulfilled. There will be peace on earth and a golden age for mankind, probably lasting centuries.

The coming of the messiah is one of the 13 fundamental beliefs of Judaism and he’s going to come when there are wars and suffering. As we can see, they’re deliberately speeding things up. They need Al-Malḥamat Al-Kubra (WW3) so that their messiah will come.

Before the time of the mashiach, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16)

 

[The SC]

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There is no shame in starting from scratch..

1. The money is now there
2. Saudi companies have experience in body building, electronics, systems and electrical circuits

There is nothing wrong with buying a sixth generation, a fifth generation, and a fourth generation++, whether Western or Eastern, and at the same time building your own product that you control and guarantee supply chains for your forces and partners.

The project has high chances to obtain advanced technologies due to Saudi-Chinese and Pakistani-Chinese relations..And there is Turkiye too..

 

[gamaji]

The fact that if this deal/PACT was signed by Imran Khan some poster boys will be calling it bigger than Sulah Hudabiya, and have declared Imran Khan to be greater Leader than Rasool Allah and Khulfa-e-Rashidun, I mean I won't be surprised if they worship the man or his pictures on some alters like some Shiaite factions literally bow down to Ali RA and consider him Nauzubillah Allah himself.

Signed by Imran Khan? Nah yaar.

That dummy was utterly disgraced when Saudi royal plane dropped that brainless idiot and his delegation in US and flew back to KSA empty because the fool talked disgracefully about the royal family while flying in that plane.

Saudis didn't even wanted to hear his name afterwards.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Signed by Imran Khan? Nah yaar.

That dummy was utterly disgraced when Saudi royal plane dropped that brainless idiot and his delegation in US and flew back to KSA empty because the fool talked disgracefully about the royal family while flying in that plane.

Saudis didn't even wanted to hear his name afterwards.

If true than IK is a liability for the Pak Deep State for his extreme ego....

 

[Tamerlane]

The 2 billion Muslims of this world will never see peace as long as the Israeli knife remains inserted into the heart of the Muslim world. Israel is a failed experiment and it’s only a matter of time before it’s finally extinguished.

Jews don’t have a history of military conquest. They were able to enslave Christian nations by infiltrating their societies and subverting them from within. They managed to take over Russia with the Bolshevik revolution, Germany before Hitler threw them out, and now America.

But with the Muslim world they seem to think they can conquer it after destroying the whole region. It’s called ‘Creative Destruction.’ It’s a business theory that says that you must destroy the old way of doing things and replace it with new. When the US launched their wars in the ME their analysts said that they’re doing creative destruction.

They probably thought that with destroyed countries and mass poverty they will be able to install their puppets everywhere and make the people abandon Islam. After all, haven’t the Christians mostly abandoned their own religion?

The Israelis probably think they’re very near their objective. But to totally demoralize all Muslims in the world they would need to bring down Saudi Arabia and establish control over Mecca and Medina. Then they will be able to say: ‘Look, your religion is false, submit to us and we’ll give you jobs and food.’

That’s why I think they’ll keep trying to move forward with their plans. But, unlike the US, they haven’t been able to infiltrate Muslim countries and they’ll never be able to enslave 2 billion Muslims of the world. So, their doom is guaranteed.

 

[Cookie Monster]

500,000 thousand more Pakistani expats in the Arab world would go long ways in helping Pakistan's economy and 500,000 less Indians in the Arab world would do major damage to India's economy.
@The SC : You guys need to realize you have an Israeli Trojan Horse in millions in your midst.

I fully agree...instead of giving loans, handouts, subsidized oil, etc...
...it would be far better if KSA gave Pakistan a preferential treatment in terms of providing jobs. KSA has a shortage of manpower for the size of its economy...hence why u see so many ppl from Pakistan, India, Philippines, etc.

...so if part of this defense pact...could prioritize Pakistan...in terms of for example...
- there's a need for 5000 nurses...take them from Pakistan.
- there's a need for 2500 Mechanical Engineers...take them from Pakistan.

This way...it would be the same as getting them from some other country. Wouldn't require any extra money KSA would have to give Pakistan. The companies hiring this labor would pay them...from the profits they gain(as they run their business)...just how any business pays its employees.

KSA has a lot of money and not enough manpower...Pakistan has a lot of manpower and not enough money. This would uplift Pakistan(without handouts) and KSA wouldn't have to give handouts/loans/etc which can fast become tiring and a liability when the corrupt politicians squander it.

@The SC