Pakistan UAVs News & Discussions

arslank01 said:
Again, the issue is you're looking at CAMM-ER as ASRAAM. You're also looking quite narrowly at this.

The simple answer is, a CAMM-ER derived BVRAAM would be relatively easy to produce and add another VLRAAM option to the market.

They dont need to go back to ASRAAM. CAMM-ER in its current form, modified to be air launched would be perfectly sufficient. You're optimising flight profiles, also probably be able to shed some weight, etc etc. Nobody is providing asraam and nobody is saying this would be Pakistan specific. However, imagine a program that gave us some experience, working with a member of the 'A TEAM' of Euro missile design, allowing us to work with modern propellants and systems to locally produce a camm-er derived bvraam.

Imagine the doors also opened for italy. How many countries can offer a full avionics and missile package?
Russia(?)
US
Israel
China
France

Nobody else.

Italy however, has a lax ish arms export policy and CAN provide avionics, but is at the mercy of the US or MBDA to allow BVRAAM exports to compliment their avionics. Imagine an ITAR free, less restrictive but capable western missile and avionics suite. I can just imagine Egypt, tons of Gulf states and of course Pakistan frothing at the mouth...
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I see your point, question is though why arent they going that route. I hace my doubts about their ability to carry out such work independently, not from a technical perspective but rather a political perspective. I would imagine any nation threatening NATO hierarchy (ie US, UK, French weapons dominance) will be treated as a pariah in NATO (ala Turkey).

As it stands, Turkey will likely fulfill the weapons role you envision here to some extent (at least Vis a vis short range - Gokdogan/goksur) route as a tri-service missile. Maybe FAAZ will fill that role also. But to the core of your argument about a lack of coordination, that is the plague of most countries (US included), until the civilians with pocket books step in and tell them what wasteful spending is being done. Sadly in Pakistan, no-one can say that to the military even through the combination of resources would likely yield a better overall product.
 
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GIDS has been showcasing a range of UAVs at IDEX 2025 in Abu Dhabi this week. The most noteworthy among them was the three newly unveiled members of the Blaze family of loitering munitions.

The Blaze-25, weighing 25kg, is the smallest family member. Unlike the other members, it is electrically powered, with the propulsion system giving the loitering munition a range of 75km, an endurance of 60 minutes and the ability to carry an anti-tank warhead weighing between 8kg and 10kg.

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The Blaze-50 and Blaze-75 are the larger members, both powered by a gasoline engine. The former has a maximum range of 180km, an endurance of 60 minutes and a 20kg payload. The heavier Blaze-75 has a longer maximum range of 500km and endurance of 240 minutes while carrying a 30kg pre-fragmentation warhead.


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In line with the growing global adoption of loitering munitions technologies, whose low-cost and precision strike capabilities have proven their strategic usefulness in conflicts in the South Caucasus, Eastern Europe, and the Middle East, GIDS first long-range kamikaze UAV is called SARKASH.

According to GIDS’s product brochure, SARKASH, equipped with state-of-the-art guidance and seeker systems, is a long-range kamikaze UAV that offers extended battlefield surveillance and precision engagement of high-value targets. Powered by a turbojet propulsion system, this drone can reach a flight endurance of over 120 minutes and an operational range of 1,000 kilometers. Its payload capacity is 50 kg, and its weight is 175 kg. Thanks to its launch mechanism, which allows for fast deployment on various land—and sea-based platforms, it can adapt to diverse combat settings.

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GIDS Blaze-25/50/75 Loitering Munitions - Quwa

GIDS revealed 3 new loitering munitions at IDEAS 2024: Blaze 25, Blaze 50, and Blaze 75.
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Are any of these FPV drones? Is pakistan making FOV drones?
 
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Some nice closeup shots of Yiha-iii Kamikaze munition in Albanian service. Albania is 5th known user of this system, other 4 being Pakistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan and Ukraine.It has been used in active combat by Pak, Turkey and Ukraine inside Iran, Syria and Russia respectively.
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