POST WAR assessment of recent conflict.

[TAC]

it was just arty shells, that we couldnt stop

Yeah u stopped everything else, including PL -15s by putting your shiny new jets in their flight path

 

[Hybrid]

None of these are vague claims
You guys did used nuclear systems
6 planes did crash with 4 (cat out of bag)
Bases were targeted as we can see numerous amateur videos

Share satelite images.

 

[ziaulislam]

Share satelite images.

Satellite images for plan crashed???

 

[ghazi52]

Har jagah Pakistan to yaad ata he hai

 

[ghazi52]

Once Again, Thanks to Quaid e Azam for Pakistan.

 

[ziaulislam]

Share satelite images.

Satellite images of some destruction to forward bases hangers have no meaning, unless you can see damagaed aircrafs, .most aircraft are not hangers they are in air or dispered amongst different bases. All damage euns away have zero tactical or practical advantage since it takes few mins to repair those anyway

R Regardless neither Pakistan nor indoa can intercept nuclear based system like brahmos, and haft series Pakistan has. Pakistan disnt escalate to nuclear since our airforce wasnt paralyzed like your was

Also we have much better conventional system sinilar to HIMARS o.e fatej 1,2 ..cheaper and less escalatory..since Pakistan doesnt jump to nuclear like india does(though i disagree we should have taken out our nuclear assets too like india did)

 

[ziaulislam]

it was just arty shells, that we couldnt stop

Wait why couldn't you stop art shells since you claim you were able to stop arterlly rockets like fateh 1,2 they are essentially the same thing

 

[Hybrid]

Satellite images for plan crashed???

You say bases are targeted right show some satalite images. I want to where you guys hit

 

[Hybrid]

Wait why couldn't you stop art shells since you claim you were able to stop arterlly rockets like fateh 1,2 they are essentially the same thing

If you know besics. Why AD are designed for and how AD works you will know.

 

[TAC]

You say bases are targeted right show some satalite images. I want to where you guys hit

If they didn’t hit anything why is your spokesperson on record the very next morning confirming that Indian bases had been hit causing damages in material and manpower and asking for deescalation? U Now run along and count how many of your jets got shot down, O sorry I forgot that’s ’not the question u should be asking’Nation

 

[Hybrid]

Satellite images of some destruction to forward bases hangers have no meaning, unless you can see damagaed aircrafs, .most aircraft are not hangers they are in air or dispered amongst different bases. All damage euns away have zero tactical or practical advantage since it takes few mins to repair those anyway

R Regardless neither Pakistan nor indoa can intercept nuclear based system like brahmos, and haft series Pakistan has. Pakistan disnt escalate to nuclear since our airforce wasnt paralyzed like your was

Also we have much better conventional system sinilar to HIMARS o.e fatej 1,2 ..cheaper and less escalatory..since Pakistan doesnt jump to nuclear like india does(though i disagree we should have taken out our nuclear assets too like india did)

First, I'm asking — where are the images showing that we were actually hit?
Should we start listing what we hit?

Our Air Force was “paralyzed,” yet we were destroying PAF airbases across the length and breadth of Pakistan.
And if the PAF was dominating, why were they launching ground-to-ground missiles from civilian areas?

And what even is a “nuclear-based missile”?
The idea that Pakistan didn’t retaliate is wrong — it simply had no options left.

It was Pakistan that escalated things.
It started with a drone on 7th May.
On 8th May, Indian drones were flying all over Pakistan. Take an ad break with that.

Then Pakistan came with rockets, Fateh-1, Fateh-2, and CM-400 — every single one of them was intercepted.

When we started with missiles, we hit everything we aimed at with impunity — completely unchallenged.

And am not going to replay again

 

[Hybrid]

If they didn’t hit anything why is your spokesperson on record the very next morning confirming that Indian bases had been hit causing damages in material and manpower and asking for deescalation? U Now run along and count how many of your jets got shot down, O sorry I forgot that’s ’not the question u should be asking’Nation

Bro, ISPR literally showed edited clips from Indian media and claimed they hit Indian airbases.
They even said, “Here’s the before picture of the Indian airbase” — but never showed any after photo. This is the level of press conference ISPR held.

Do you want me to share those edited clips from ISPR?
If you really hit Indian airbases, go ahead and share satellite images. That would make things much clearer.

But sure, stay in your dream world. I don’t want to be the one to break it.

 

[Mav3rick]

First of all I would like to send my thanks to all the brave service-members that withstood the assault by the vicious saffron enemy. You proved why we can't let our defense down no matter how much the West, their puppets in the Arab world want us to. These so called "Muslims" would need their influence to end sooner or later if the Islamic world wants to progress and become a center of learning and dignity.

I read Mastan Khan's assessment on the recent clashes and the ceasefire and I am highly worried that it does not bode well for Pakistan's future.

The Indians targeted all of Pakistan and its sensitive locations after murdering innocent Pakistanis in false flag attacks. Pakistan did not go on the offensive as they aggressively told us if the Indians attempt an attack on Pakistan or attacks our civilians "they will pay through their noses." When the initial strikes occurred May 7th, Pakistan again and timidly struck back military targets only in Indian occupied and colonized Kashmir. A mosque in central Punjab was leveled and Pakistan's response was to attack some targets in IOK.

This was a grave mistake as the Indians deliberately struck a mosque that's closely near a military installation that Pakistani military members likely perform worships at. By shooting down some planes during the initial Indian Air Terror and in the process shooting down the Indian jets, Pakistan military planners were contend to pat themselves on the back and call it a day.

What should have happened was Pakistan Air Force should have struck a Hindu temple in the heart of Mumbai or Gujarat.
Just like in 2019, Pakistan dropped the ball and let the enemy go without suffering major losses. We all know the Indians being the typical cowards as reflected throughout their history gained much needed confidence to press ahead and fully colonized IOK with Dravidian and Ganges stock Indians.

Pakistan only came out on top tactically, the Indians strategically. I do not know all the details on the "ceasefire" but I know it does not bode well. They used a false-flag operations to target Pakistan proper and Pakistan let them off easily, again.

The ceasefire sounds awfully similar to the one that Israel signed with Hezbollah/Lebanon, Hezbollah will lay down its arms while Israel is allowed to carry out attacks whenever they feel threaten.
The Indians basically implied that proper Pakistan will again be targeted if there is any "terror" attacks in India or IOK.

The fact that Indians can so easily launch their missiles and drones against all parts of Pakistan while Pakistan basically shot off a missile here or there (without much visual damage to the enemy), this will in fact embolden the vicious, rabid enemy further. He will now attempt to target population centers whenever he has an itch. Same as the Israelis. The Indians even struck cowardly right before the ceasefire and struck the PAF base in Sindh and martyred our brave military men.

The Indian cleverly masking his whole argument based of attacking "Terrorists" in Pakistan and claims to be "Surprised" that Pakistan struck back. They are shaping the narrative that anyone could be a terrorist in Pakistan and in the future will be attacked with or without evidence. The Indians also are prepping for future strikes as they didn't suffer ample civilian casualties or financial losses in order to re-calibrate the Hindutva mind. He sees Pakistan and Muslims as a civilizational struggle, while we are confused as to our identity. He does not see Pakistan or South Asian Muslims as normal human begins, but fifth columnists left behind by invaders. The Hindutva will conduct his future actions around these beliefs.


I was banned from the main conflict thread because one of the mods because in his mind he thinks I spoke out against the Quran when I advocated that Pakistan should conduct strikes on Hindu population centers as they openly struck Islamic mosques. Maybe that mod lacks a proper understanding of English but I go by Surah Bakarah verse:

"Fight in the cause of Allah ˹only˺ against those who wage war against you, but do not exceed the limits.1 Allah does not like transgressors."



@Waz @Musings Please message me about the thread ban. I would like to make an suggestion, please get rid of the laughing emoji it likely plays a part in trolling and jest behavior and gives many low-iq Pakistanis and Indians to abuse this feature to mock serious points. I want this forum to a place where serious thinkers come and discuss military issues, and not become another Facebook.

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While I absolutely understand your sentiments, I wanted to particularly respond to your opinion that Pakistan should have targetted Indian Civilians and Hindu places of worship. In which Islam is either allowed?

And what would be the difference between us and them?? Under no circumstances shoud Indian civilians be harmed, even in all out wars. Only combatants should be targetted.

 

[Vapnope]

Bro, ISPR literally showed edited clips from Indian media and claimed they hit Indian airbases.
They even said, “Here’s the before picture of the Indian airbase” — but never showed any after photo. This is the level of press conference ISPR held.

Do you want me to share those edited clips from ISPR?
If you really hit Indian airbases, go ahead and share satellite images. That would make things much clearer.

But sure, stay in your dream world. I don’t want to be the one to break it.

Dude show us the proof of Uri surgical strikes and downed F16 on 2019. We will come to proofs of 2025 once you do it. Let's go!

 

[Mav3rick]

One fourth of the hangar roof has been blown away indicating a high speed impact, indicating Brahmos usage.

Generally, these hangars accommodate 1-2 biggish aircraft.
(non-fighter class).

Even if an aircraft was parked at diagonally opposite end from where the missile entered, there is likely to be significant amount of damage to it. It can’t be just shrapnel damage considering the size of blast recorded from that base seen in many videos. There would be damage due to blast and fire too.

What was inside isn’t known and is unlikely to be accepted by PAF.

This attack must have been carried out with highly accurate intelligence available, to inflict big damage to PAF war effort. My assumption that it would be most likely an AEWC.

It was anlso corroborated by the Air Marshal from Pakistan.

I always thought these hardened hangers were supposed to protect the assets underneath by blowing outside; just like the explosive protection on the outside of Tanks meant to expel the force of the warhead detonation + impact of the missile. It would be truly amazing if the asset under the hanger was severely damaged.