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They have right to decide what ever they want and we have right to drone the hell out of religious and separatist terrorism.

India couldn't force border change and you stupid afghandu think Pakistan would allow bunch of retarded terrorists to dictate border lmao

The post was about you calling fellow Pakistani citizens.

When the people of KPK decide, it won't be just them. Just like in former East Pakistan, they will be the joined by hundreds of thousands of Pushtun officers/soldiers currently serving this very state.

Keep up with this attitude and see where this leads you.

Baatain suno in Haramzado kee. Can't control an insurgency by a small Baloch population and here we have dreams of crushing 20 million Pushtuns.

Indian did change the border you stupid ****. It was able to change the border and force the buggest surrender in South Asian history when cunts like you said the same thing about Bengalis.

And how does a Hyderabadi be an Arab?
 
The post was about you calling fellow Pakistani citizens.

When the people of KPK decide, it won't be just them. Just like in former East Pakistan, they will be the joined by hundreds of thousands of Pushtun officers/soldiers currently serving this very state.

Keep up with this attitude and see where this leads you.

Baatain suno in Haramzado kee. Can't control an insurgency by a small Baloch population and here we have dreams of crushing 20 million Pushtuns.

Indian did change the border you stupid ****. It was able to change the border and force the buggest surrender in South Asian history when cunts like you said the same thing about Bengalis.

And how does a Hyderabadi be an Arab?

Balochistan isnt going anywhere despite insurgency. That low key insurgency can go on for centuries.

You are hoping every pathan will mutiny because of zani Khan in jail asked them to do so. Lol In case some terrorists decide to munity then they will be dealt there. Just like Zani khan will die like a rat in jail.

Its time Afghandus stopped dreaming of east Pakistan scenario when there couldnt possibly be any comparison what so ever.

Pakistan now is nuclear power and border is continuos. Your daddy India will not dare cross inch in to Pakistan to liberate pathans and PTM afghandus.

And what will KP inherit? It will have to give away DI Khan, Hazara and Chiltral. Basically FATA and Peshawar where they will die of hunger once Pakistan stop giving them hundreds of billions in NFC award. Do not think pathans are stupid to dream of that just because some im the dim Khan in jail asked them.
 
Balochistan isnt going anywhere despite insurgency. That low key insurgency can go on for centuries.

You are hoping every pathan will mutiny because of zani Khan in jail asked them to do so. Lol In case some terrorists decide to munity then they will be dealt there. Just like Zani khan will die like a rat in jail.

Its time Afghandus stopped dreaming of east Pakistan scenario when there couldnt possibly be any comparison what so ever.

Pakistan now is nuclear power and border is continuos. Your daddy India will not dare cross inch in to Pakistan to liberate pathans and PTM afghandus.

And what will KP inherit? It will have to give away DI Khan, Hazara and Chiltral. Basically FATA and Peshawar where they will die of hunger once Pakistan stop giving them hundreds of billions in NFC award. Do not think pathans are stupid to dream of that just because some im the dim Khan in jail asked them.
You’re disgusting behind any reason
 
Instead of breaking Pakistan another solution is to join up with Afghanistan. Then we’ll have millions of people who won’t bow down to the Anglo-Hindus running the country.

Joining them under Asim Muneer and his gang in GHQ? They rather go back living under the American occupation! It would have been possible under IK rule.

Have you noticed how it has become an issue out of no where about Taliban not standing over national anthem! The people who are making noise, the GHQ gang, are the ones who are disrespecting nation's will for years! These idiots are so predictable. I am sure they know that Taliban pressured Fazlu not to vote. I mean if house of Saud has free ride in the internal matters of Pakistan, then why not Taliban?
 
Pakistan's provincial setup fosters ethnic jingoism at the expense of Pakistani nationalism. The main political parties (except PTI) are formed along provincial/ethnic lines and people vote for them mostly along ethnic lines.

There is no Pakistaniat in Pakistan. There is only Punjabiat, Sindhiat, and Pakhtuniat. The other provinces are too inconsequential to be able to afford their own -iat.

Not only Punjab, but Sindh and KPK should also be broken down so Pakistan has 30 or so smaller political units which are more amenable to accountability.

A large number of states will also help democracy and accountability by deterring collusion. Look at India. Two crooks can form a bond of 'I scratch your back, you scratch my back' but it's hard to get 29 or 30 crooks to collude on anything, so it keep everyone more honest.



Canadian provinces and American states are not built along ethnic lines.
in Pakistan we have how many institutions and out of those how many are run by corrupt individuals?

Provinces can be broken down in 1000 pieces but if the people are not willing to stand up to fight for their right all of them will be lead by corrupt individuals.

People of Pakistan finally united under a federal party. Ethnic politics was finally defeated, you have the whole country united behind one man and party. That tells you the solution is not splitting provinces and increasing expenditure.

Solution is simple and there is no running away from it. Come out on the streets and fight for your right.

Fight the mafia like rest of the developed countries did, they moved to the streets and fought for their rights.

We Pakistanis have a habit of not looking the devil in the eye , we always try to find excuses of our coward nature.

Fight against the corrupt, move to the streets. They can’t arrest or kill millions and we have plenty of examples in recent history how successful it has been.
 
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in Pakistan we have how many institutions and out of those how many are run by corrupt individuals?

Provinces can be broken down in 1000 pieces but if the people are not willing to stand up to fight for their right all of them will be lead by corrupt individuals.

People of Pakistan finally united under a federal party. Ethnic politics was finally defeated, you have the whole country united behind one man and party. That tells you the solution is not splitting provinces and increasing expenditure.

Solution is simple and there is no running away from it. Come out on the streets and fight for your right.

Fight the mafia like rest of the developed countries did, they moved to the streets and fought for their rights.

We Pakistanis have a habit of not looking the devil in the eye , we always try to find excuses of our coward nature.

Fight against the corrupt, move to the streets. They can’t arrest or kill millions and we have plenty of examples in recent history how successful it has been.

Those of us sitting in Western countries should not pass judgement on what Pakistanis in Pakistan should do. If anyone feels strongly, they should take the first flight to Pakistan to lead street protests and show the locals how it's done.

Many Pakistanis have paid with their life or livelihood to speak out against the mafia. It is disrespectful to dismiss their sacrifices.
 
Those of us sitting in Western countries should not pass judgement on what Pakistanis in Pakistan should do. If anyone feels strongly, they should take the first flight to Pakistan to lead street protests and show the locals how it's done.

Many Pakistanis have paid with their life or livelihood to speak out against the mafia. It is disrespectful to dismiss their sacrifices.
I believe we Pakistanis living abroad are a key reason the fight for a better Pakistan continues. We've seen how functional democracies operate and have shared this knowledge with those back home. In Pakistan, media and social media are silenced, but we encourage people to stand up for their rights. With millions already fighting on the ground, there's no need for us to be physically there. It's teamwork—those in Pakistan fight on the frontlines while we support them from abroad to create a better future for the next generation."
 
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I believe we Pakistanis living abroad are a key reason the fight for a better Pakistan continues. We've seen how functional democracies operate and have shared this knowledge with those back home. In Pakistan, media and social media are silenced, but we encourage people to stand up for their rights. With millions already fighting on the ground, there's no need for us to be physically there. It's teamwork—those in Pakistan fight on the frontlines while we support them from abroad to create a better future for the next generation."

Sitting abroad, is our physical life in danger?
Are our relatives and friends in physical danger?
Is our livelihood in danger?

When the answer to these questions is 'no', then we are in no position to lecture anyone how to protest in the streets of Pakistan. If any overseas Pakistani is outraged, then let them take the first flight to Pakistan and physically lead the street protests. Unless they do that, it is just sanctimonious bluster.
 
Sitting abroad, is our physical life in danger?
Are our relatives and friends in physical danger?
Is our livelihood in danger?

When the answer to these questions is 'no', then we are in no position to lecture anyone how to protest in the streets of Pakistan. If any overseas Pakistani is outraged, then let them take the first flight to Pakistan and physically lead the street protests. Unless they do that, it is just sanctimonious bluster.
You can agree or disagree… we did not let it go like previous 75 years
 
Lt. General Nadeem Anjum, the former Director-General of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), is remembered for a highly controversial tenure. His time in office was marked by allegations of constitutional violations, political interference, and human rights abuses. Though he retired a year ago, he was granted a one-year extension, which recently ended. His role in various political events during this period left a lasting impact on Pakistan's democracy and public trust.

Nadeem Anjum’s appointment as DG ISI was contentious from the start. Former Prime Minister Imran Khan opposed his selection, but the then Chief of Army Staff, General Qamar Javed Bajwa, appointed him regardless. This decision went against the Prime Minister’s preference, setting the stage for growing tensions between the civilian government and the military.

A major controversy during Anjum’s tenure was his alleged involvement in the no-confidence vote that led to the removal of Imran Khan as Prime Minister in 2022. Many believe this political move was not only due to internal dynamics but also influenced by foreign pressure. There were claims that a U.S. official, Donald Lu, played a role in Khan's ouster and that the ISI under Anjum helped facilitate the process, signalling deep interference in Pakistan’s political scene.

After Khan’s removal, the constitution required new elections to be held within 90 days, but under Anjum’s leadership, these elections were delayed. The ISI, along with other state institutions, played a part in stalling the electoral process, a violation of Pakistan’s constitution. This delay left the country without a legitimate democratic government and deepened the political crisis.

In November 2022, Imran Khan survived a serious assassination attempt during a rally in Wazirabad. Despite being shot multiple times, he survived. Critics argue that such an attack could have been prevented if the intelligence agencies, including the ISI, had been more vigilant. Under Anjum’s leadership, the agency was accused of failing to protect a prominent political figure during a highly charged time, and some even speculated there was more than just negligence involved.

Throughout Anjum’s time as DG ISI, reports of human rights abuses became more frequent. Journalists were kidnapped, tortured, and, in some cases, killed. Political opponents and their families were allegedly abducted, detained without charge, and threatened. Some judges and members of parliament were also harassed, with their families held as leverage in some instances. The ISI, which should have been protecting national interests, was seen as enabling or even orchestrating these actions.

During the general elections, which eventually took place, the results were heavily contested. The PTI party, led by Imran Khan, reportedly won over two-thirds of the vote. However, the results appeared to have been manipulated to favour opposition parties that had received significantly fewer votes. The ISI’s alleged involvement in this election interference further damaged its credibility and undermined the public’s trust in Pakistan’s democratic system.

Anjum’s influence extended into the judiciary as well. Reports emerged that Supreme Court judges were blackmailed or coerced into making decisions that aligned with the military’s interests. Some judges were forced to resign under pressure. Toward the end of his extension, there were last-minute attempts to amend the constitution to weaken the judiciary further, moves that alarmed both the legal community and the public.

Under Nadeem Anjum’s leadership, the ISI, once regarded as a respected intelligence agency, suffered a severe blow to its reputation. Once viewed as the pride of Pakistan, public opinion turned dramatically against the ISI. Polls suggest that as many as 90% of Pakistanis now hold a negative view of the agency, a reflection of the deep damage done during Anjum’s time in office.

Nadeem Anjum’s tenure as DG ISI is seen as one of the most controversial in the agency’s history. His actions, or lack of action, severely tarnished the reputation of Pakistan’s intelligence community. Many hope that the new DG ISI will work to restore the institution’s integrity, but rebuilding public trust will take time. Until accountability is ensured for the wrongdoings during Anjum’s leadership, his legacy of political interference, corruption, and human rights violations will continue to cast a long shadow over Pakistan’s intelligence agency.
 
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