PTI freedom movement against Judiciary and Establishment: News, Discussion & Updates

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This son of hera mandi will punish to end level inshallah when time comes

 

[FuturePAF]

IK’s the definition of the idiom “shooting oneself in the foot” because of his ego regarding his image and the “chalice” of mellisandre.

The biggest mistake his sponsors in the establishment made was not realizing that his “charm” was best kept to a presidency.
Let the middle class enfranchisement with PTI nurture and grow under SMQ or another candidate - but then the problem with that is IK is too much of an image to let that happen.

Regardless - they picked the wrong enterprise to try and do their usual puppeteering to “fix” the system - which they were never qualified to run or advise on in the first place.

Too late for anything now -

This was what I’ve been saying for a while, IK as president without a way to be removed would satisfy many in the public. While his deputy SMQ could be a more stable PM (one that has worked with different parties). Under SMQ, the country’s image can also be reshaped based on our return to our local culture, pre-Zia.

At the same time, IK can visit from diaspora to diaspora to work with them to build up investment and foreign relations between the two countries. This is even beneficial for the PTI party, so it learns to outlive IK’s personality. He needs to graduate from captain to head coach of PTI.

I don’t think it’s too late, BUT PTI will have to at least be given more power as a more robust opposition while out of power, and the middle class will have to be empowered to compete on a level playing field. No more economic monopolies of new investment is to come in any significant amounts.

The key is: Realistically, the current PDM (PML-N/PPP) government will have to be toppled in another VONC, and PTI Be allowed to come back to power SOON. IK wouldn’t displace Zardari as president immediately, so as not to delegitimize the office of the presidency, but the PTI would have to be allowed to make real changes to how money is spent, as the party in power, otherwise public acceptance won’t work. Once out of power, the other parties can work towards trying to re-earn their legitimacy if they shift their platforms and personalities. 2025-2029, PTI government under a Zardari Presidency could learn to govern on real metrics, not feels. IK would then come back to power as president in 2029, in third PTI government, if the electorate wants him.

 

[KingQamaR]

THE uk Government will stay neutral on Imran khan.

I don’t know . I want to know where billions seize assets of corrupt Pakistanis officials will go. if, US decides to do this!

Will this money ever be returned to Pakistan once a democratic government comes ; Inshallah.

 

[Cash gk]

On June 25, 1975, then-Prime Minister of India, Indira Gandhi, declared a state of emergency, suspending citizens’ fundamental rights. Thousands across India were arrested and detained. In response, the high courts began releasing these detainees upon habeas corpus petitions. Dissatisfied with these releases, Indira Gandhi’s government took the matter to the Supreme Court, resulting in the infamous Additional District Magistrate (ADM) Jabalpur v. Shivkant Shukla case, also remembered as the Habeas Corpus Case 1976.

This case soon became a pivotal constitutional debate centering around questions like “Can citizens’ fundamental rights be suspended?” “Can the government make arbitrary decisions?” and “Can the right to file habeas corpus petitions also be suspended?” The entire nation’s attention turned to this case.

The five-member bench of the Supreme Court faced immense pressure to side with the government. Unfortunately, four of the five judges ruled in the government’s favor under this pressure. The lone dissenting judge was Justice Hans Raj Khanna, who, despite being in line to become the Chief Justice of India, foresaw the repercussions of his stance. In a letter to his sister before the ruling, he wrote, “I have written my judgment. This decision will cost me my position as the Chief Justice of India.” And that is precisely what happened. The Indira Gandhi government appointed Mirza Hameedullah Beg, one of the judges who had ruled in its favor, as the 15th Chief Justice of India. In his judgment, Justice Beg even stated that the state was taking care of the detainees like a mother. Following Beg’s appointment, Justice Khanna resigned.

In 1977, when the Janata Party government replaced Indira Gandhi’s administration, it established a commission to investigate the injustices during the Emergency. Justice Khanna was offered the opportunity to lead this commission, giving him a chance to seek retribution against Indira Gandhi’s government. However, he declined, stating that, since he had been personally affected by Indira Gandhi’s vengeful politics, he might unconsciously harbor bias.

In 2017, in the Puttaswamy Case, the Indian Supreme Court overturned the 1976 Habeas Corpus Case, stating that the government cannot arbitrarily deprive individuals of their freedoms. Justice Khanna’s legacy was immortalized by his principled stand, and he became the first judge in the Indian Supreme Court to have his portrait hung while still alive. He passed away in 2008, but his nephew, Sanjiv Khanna, will assume the very position of Chief Justice of India that Justice Khanna was denied, on November 11, 2024—48 years after the ordeal.

After celebrating the integrity of such a figure, what can be said about figures like Qazi Faez Isa, who are seen by some as embodying arrogance and resentment as state enablers?

Justice Hans Raj Khanna’s legacy exemplifies a steadfast commitment to justice and independence in the judiciary, contrasting sharply with modern figures perceived as politically motivated or biased in their rulings.

 

[Oscar]

This was what I’ve been saying for a while, IK as president without a way to be removed would satisfy many in the public. While his deputy SMQ could be a more stable PM (one that has worked with different parties). Under SMQ, the country’s image can also be reshaped based on our return to our local culture, pre-Zia.

At the same time, IK can visit from diaspora to diaspora to work with them to build up investment and foreign relations between the two countries. This is even beneficial for the PTI party, so it learns to outlive IK’s personality. He needs to graduate from captain to head coach of PTI.

I don’t think it’s too late, BUT PTI will have to at least be given more power as a more robust opposition while out of power, and the middle class will have to be empowered to compete on a level playing field. No more economic monopolies of new investment is to come in any significant amounts.

The key is: Realistically, the current PDM (PML-N/PPP) government will have to be toppled in another VONC, and PTI Be allowed to come back to power SOON. IK wouldn’t displace Zardari as president immediately, so as not to delegitimize the office of the presidency, but the PTI would have to be allowed to make real changes to how money is spent, as the party in power, otherwise public acceptance won’t work. Once out of power, the other parties can work towards trying to re-earn their legitimacy if they shift their platforms and personalities. 2025-2029, PTI government under a Zardari Presidency could learn to govern on real metrics, not feels. IK would then come back to power as president in 2029, in third PTI government, if the electorate wants him.

This is actually a great option to stabilize the country - without the establishment actually giving up too much. Put IK back but in this ceremonial role where he feels he can “direct” the government. But leave the Prime Minister and actual decisions to technocrats

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

On June 25, 1975, then-Prime Minister of India, Indira Gandhi, declared a state of emergency, suspending citizens’ fundamental rights. Thousands across India were arrested and detained. In response, the high courts began releasing these detainees upon habeas corpus petitions. Dissatisfied with these releases, Indira Gandhi’s government took the matter to the Supreme Court, resulting in the infamous Additional District Magistrate (ADM) Jabalpur v. Shivkant Shukla case, also remembered as the Habeas Corpus Case 1976.

This case soon became a pivotal constitutional debate centering around questions like “Can citizens’ fundamental rights be suspended?” “Can the government make arbitrary decisions?” and “Can the right to file habeas corpus petitions also be suspended?” The entire nation’s attention turned to this case.

The five-member bench of the Supreme Court faced immense pressure to side with the government. Unfortunately, four of the five judges ruled in the government’s favor under this pressure. The lone dissenting judge was Justice Hans Raj Khanna, who, despite being in line to become the Chief Justice of India, foresaw the repercussions of his stance. In a letter to his sister before the ruling, he wrote, “I have written my judgment. This decision will cost me my position as the Chief Justice of India.” And that is precisely what happened. The Indira Gandhi government appointed Mirza Hameedullah Beg, one of the judges who had ruled in its favor, as the 15th Chief Justice of India. In his judgment, Justice Beg even stated that the state was taking care of the detainees like a mother. Following Beg’s appointment, Justice Khanna resigned.

In 1977, when the Janata Party government replaced Indira Gandhi’s administration, it established a commission to investigate the injustices during the Emergency. Justice Khanna was offered the opportunity to lead this commission, giving him a chance to seek retribution against Indira Gandhi’s government. However, he declined, stating that, since he had been personally affected by Indira Gandhi’s vengeful politics, he might unconsciously harbor bias.

In 2017, in the Puttaswamy Case, the Indian Supreme Court overturned the 1976 Habeas Corpus Case, stating that the government cannot arbitrarily deprive individuals of their freedoms. Justice Khanna’s legacy was immortalized by his principled stand, and he became the first judge in the Indian Supreme Court to have his portrait hung while still alive. He passed away in 2008, but his nephew, Sanjiv Khanna, will assume the very position of Chief Justice of India that Justice Khanna was denied, on November 11, 2024—48 years after the ordeal.

After celebrating the integrity of such a figure, what can be said about figures like Qazi Faez Isa, who are seen by some as embodying arrogance and resentment as state enablers?

Justice Hans Raj Khanna’s legacy exemplifies a steadfast commitment to justice and independence in the judiciary, contrasting sharply with modern figures perceived as politically motivated or biased in their rulings.

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[FuturePAF]

This is actually a great option to stabilize the country - without the establishment actually giving up too much. Put IK back but in this ceremonial role where he feels he can “direct” the government. But leave the Prime Minister and actual decisions to technocrats

Not technocrats, but politicians from his party that will have to perform. He still can be a guiding figure on his party, brought in for big picture and general vision things, but let his party develop on a professional meritocratic basis. It will ensure the party ensures after him, and that holds onto the imagination of the diaspora and the youth.

The key is getting competent people that can next polices that the people are willing to stomach for 2-3 years.

The thing is though, it can’t be meanness and only ceremonial. Concessions will have to be given to the nation and PTI. Real reforms, breaking of monopolies will have to be done, because after the political dead lock is the economic deadlock. The establishment will have to give concessions. PTI or at least IK isn’t dumb enough to give in without real change. If you say his ego won’t settle for not being PM, at the very least, after what he had endured, he won’t co-sign a government without real changes, because without it he knows he is being set up to fail.

I went to DC to see IK and SMQ when they came in 2019. I’ve never felt motivated to do that for another Pakistani politician.

Ideally, kick out Zardari and make IK the president through a direct election (so Zardari’s removal can look legitimate). It will also restore some faith in democracy for the public.

 

[Cash gk]

Even his kids are not safe anymore

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Where they took us..

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[Muji.Iqbal]

A major blow is coming for Pakistan’s powerful military establishment, as 62 members of the U.S. Congress, led by Representatives Greg Casar, Jim McGovern, and Summer Lee, have called for a significant overhaul in the Biden administration’s alliance with Pakistan’s military. This action could directly impact the ability of key military officials and their families to buy property and reside in the United
States.
The proposed shakeup includes measures that could severely limit Pakistani military elites from acquiring real estate in the U.S. and accessing visas for long-term residency. With a history of buying lavish properties abroad, the Pakistani establishment has long shielded its wealth and families in safe havens outside Pakistan. However, these new developments threaten to block those privileges.
The congress members argue that continued support of Pakistan’s military, known for its oppressive tactics and corruption, is no longer in line with U.S. interests, and they seek to hold them accountable for their actions domestically and internationally. If successful, this push could leave Pakistani elites scrambling to secure assets elsewhere, with their children’s future access to education and residency in the U.S. hanging in the balance.
Sources say that many within Pakistan’s military are already feeling the heat, as the fear of losing their U.S. assets looms large. With this kind of political pressure mounting, Pakistan’s establishment may find that their cozy relationship with the U.S. is on thin ice, and their financial and personal safety nets could vanish sooner than they think.
Stay tuned for further updates.

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Time to stop buying American shit products.

Time to buy Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese, Brazilian, South African, Singaporean, German, French, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Thailand, Russian, and Vietnamese products now.

 

[Cash gk]

What Kind of Job is This? Lost Dignity and Got Hit as Well”
News is coming in from within the country and abroad that wherever government representatives appear in public, they are met with shoes and slaps. Verification is still pending about which airport abroad saw insults or shoes thrown, but only two people fled: Nawaz Sharif and Qazi Faez Isa. The verbal abuse Nawaz Sharif faced in London was witnessed and heard by all, but Qazi Isa’s story is still awaited.
Within the country, their supporters are also facing such humiliation. A minister, known for his beard, was seen in a hotel being insulted and hit with shoes by two women. When he tried to assert his power, it was revealed that these women were from military families. He quickly apologized and dismissed the police to avoid any encounter with someone in uniform.
It seems that now even women associated with the military are sending such people packing, leaving them without a face to show.
What an unfortunate situation – is it helplessness, shamelessness, or divine retribution?

 

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Someone threw shoes at Qazi at the Turkish airport.

 

[SaadH]

What Kind of Job is This? Lost Dignity and Got Hit as Well”
News is coming in from within the country and abroad that wherever government representatives appear in public, they are met with shoes and slaps. Verification is still pending about which airport abroad saw insults or shoes thrown, but only two people fled: Nawaz Sharif and Qazi Faez Isa. The verbal abuse Nawaz Sharif faced in London was witnessed and heard by all, but Qazi Isa’s story is still awaited.
Within the country, their supporters are also facing such humiliation. A minister, known for his beard, was seen in a hotel being insulted and hit with shoes by two women. When he tried to assert his power, it was revealed that these women were from military families. He quickly apologized and dismissed the police to avoid any encounter with someone in uniform.
It seems that now even women associated with the military are sending such people packing, leaving them without a face to show.
What an unfortunate situation – is it helplessness, shamelessness, or divine retribution?

Inn beghairaton koi faraq nahi parrta kitni hi galian day do