PTI freedom movement against Judiciary and Establishment: News, Discussion & Updates

[nahtanbob]

He is afraid that if Trump wins the election, he will have to free Imran Khan because as Trump has also faced severe punishment through fake cases brought by the American establishment, just like Imran Khan.

Trump cares about Trump

 

[Alter_Ego]

Neither of them are really “strongmen”.
The US can change them for other willing servants at will.

 

[nahtanbob]

The father of Pakistani bomb was on record that then COAS Musharraf didnt authorized the work on Ghauri-3 becuase he didnt want to upset yanks due to Israel coming directly into the range. Here you have a undeniable proof of how a COAS can scuttle Pakistan own security needs in order to satisfy foreign powers.

Its no coincidence that last 5 COAS endup settling in west or western affiliates nations post retirement. Proof is in the pudding.

Why do you want a missile of range to threaten Israel ? Your generals and leaders are on record that your nukes are to deter India only

 

[Taimoor]

Why do you want a missile of range to threaten Israel ? Your generals and leaders are on record that your nukes are to deter India only

Missile range can be increased using any pretext, e.g. to be used as an SLV. Doesnt have to use a particular entity or country as a target in open declaration of intent. In this particular instance, an Ex COAS himself raised this issue without the scientist mentioning it, goes to show how much concerned these lot are for the safety of a foreign entity to their own nation. You dont make security policies based on intention rather capabilities. Can Israel nuke Pakistan using its Jericho ballistic missile. Yes. So why not Pakistan have the same capability? Not with intentions of actually using it, but in case if we have to in worst case scenario.

 

[Cash gk]

This is next level

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[Cash gk]

Sorry for English speakers. It’s in Urdu.

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[Cash gk]

By God when we get the chance we will fix this s…… h

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[nahtanbob]

The group of Pakistani army corps commanders of which the COAS is one resembles more the Myanmar military junta. Obviously there have little bit more brain cells and care more about their countrymen than their Burmese counterparts.

 

[nahtanbob]

This is next level

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Obviously Moeed Pirzada does not know where he gets his bread

 

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In recent years, figures like Egypt’s General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi and Pakistan’s General Asim Munir have emerged as powerful military leaders, wielding control over their countries with the backing of foreign allies. Both generals were brought into power with significant international support, aimed at securing regional interests for those foreign powers. Their rule, marked by heavy-handed control over democratic processes and suppression of dissent, underscores the strategies employed by foreign nations to maintain influence in regions critical to their geopolitical aims.

Paths to Power and Foreign Influence

In Egypt, General Sisi took power in 2013 through a military coup that ousted the country’s first democratically elected president, Mohamed Morsi. This move had the full backing of Saudi Arabia and the United States, who sought stability in Egypt that aligned with their own interests. Sisi’s administration quickly dismantled Egypt’s democratic structures, suppressing opposition voices and consolidating military dominance over politics. His rise to power served a clear agenda: ensure stability beneficial to foreign allies, primarily by protecting Israel and maintaining control over the strategic Suez Canal.

Similarly, in Pakistan, General Asim Munir’s ascent was reportedly influenced by foreign capitals, notably Washington and Riyadh. After Pakistan’s former Prime Minister Imran Khan advocated for a more independent foreign policy, which included support for the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the United States grew wary of Pakistan’s alignment with China. Imran Khan’s favouring of CPEC—a project that grants China a crucial trade route—was seen as a threat to American interests in the region. Therefore, by bringing Munir to power, foreign allies aimed to curb Pakistan’s engagement with China and limit CPEC’s impact, while pushing Pakistan closer to Indian hegemony, which aligns with U.S. strategies in South Asia.

Suppression of Democratic Movements

General Sisi’s rule in Egypt has been defined by strict control over political processes and harsh repression of dissent. After ousting Morsi, Sisi clamped down on Egypt’s democratic space, limiting civil liberties, and ensuring that any opposition was either marginalised or silenced. This crackdown, widely criticised, was overlooked by his foreign backers, who prioritised their strategic interests over democratic values.

In Pakistan, a similar story unfolded with General Munir. The former Prime Minister Imran Khan, known for his nationalist and independent stance, was removed through a no-confidence vote under controversial circumstances, allegedly influenced by foreign interests. Following his ouster, Khan’s imprisonment further highlighted the lengths to which the establishment would go to keep him out of power, echoing the treatment of opposition figures in authoritarian regimes. For both Sisi and Munir, democratic processes were seen as a threat to the alignment with foreign agendas, and therefore, they worked to curb these movements effectively.

Strategic Interests Behind Military Control

The installation of leaders like Sisi and Munir is driven by broader geopolitical aims. In Egypt, Western and regional powers prioritise a stable regime that secures the Suez Canal, maintains Egypt within a pro-Western sphere, and protects Israel’s security. Meanwhile, in Pakistan, foreign powers see the necessity of keeping the country aligned with India, which they view as a crucial ally in South Asia. With the U.S. aiming to counter China’s influence, particularly the CPEC corridor, they have sought to discourage Pakistan from fostering closer ties with China.

The American strategy, especially after its experiences in Afghanistan, involves installing compliant leaders who can prevent the rise of independent leadership that could shift alliances. With Munir’s rise, there has been a visible shift in Pakistan’s stance on CPEC and its foreign policy, marking a return to Washington’s influence over Pakistan’s strategic decisions.

Authoritarian Leaders with Conditional Support

Both Sisi and Munir govern with strong foreign backing, but their popularity among their own people is questionable. History has repeatedly shown that leaders who serve foreign interests rather than their own citizens often lose favour with their people. Egypt’s former president, Hosni Mubarak, ruled for decades with Western support but was eventually overthrown amid widespread public opposition. Similarly, Pakistan’s past military rulers, such as Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Zia-ul-Haq, and Musharraf, all met disgraced ends after falling out of favour, with either forced resignations or public disdain.

Foreign Policy Gambits and Regional Stability

The recent extension of General Munir’s term and his backing from allies in the U.S. and Saudi Arabia illustrate their desire to maintain a compliant leader in Pakistan. This approach is similar to the foreign policy strategy seen in Egypt, where Sisi’s continued rule aligns with foreign interests that favour stability over democracy. However, this stability often comes at the cost of democratic freedoms and public support. In both countries, foreign powers prioritise their strategic interests, ignoring the voices of the local populace.
Country like Pakistan and Egypt too big to Attack militarily .

Countries like Pakistan and Egypt, while difficult for foreign powers to control through direct military action, are often subdued through economic manipulation and the installation of puppet dictators. When powerful nations cannot seize control overtly, they resort to tactics such as destabilizing economies, placing corrupt individuals in power, and binding nations in dependency through debt and economic leverage. This centuries-old strategy, perfected by the West, has proven highly effective in maintaining influence over vulnerable nations. By fostering economic dependence on Western loans and Saudi and uae support, foreign powers secure control, quietly exploiting resources and installing loyal leaders who serve their interests over the well-being of their own people.

Lessons from History

While leaders like Sisi and Munir appear strong today, history reminds us that foreign-backed authoritarian regimes often meet bitter ends. Egypt’s Mubarak ruled with a firm grip for years but faced disgraceful removal when public sentiment turned. In Pakistan, previous military rulers who rose with strong foreign backing eventually faced similar downfalls. Power based on foreign support alone is rarely sustainable, and ultimately, leaders lacking genuine public backing become vulnerable to changing political tides.
Both Sisi and Munir serve as contemporary examples of foreign-aligned strongmen. But as history has shown, all autocrats eventually face the consequences of ignoring their people’s aspirations. The fates of past dictators demonstrate that true power lies not in foreign alliances but in public trust, and as soon as that trust erodes, even the strongest leaders become powerless.

Asim Munir is not a strong military man. The military itself is strong, egoistic and stubborn (borderline retarded). I'm sure he is well hated from within GHQ for who he is. Its just that military has decided for itself a stupid course that they plan to stick to. The only thing working for Munir is his work as ISI chief, due to which he probably has a good command on how to get information he needs and how to filter noise.

 

[Cash gk]

Finally United Nations speaks

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[Cash gk]

The United Nations has recently expressed concern over alleged human rights violations in Pakistan under the leadership of General Asim Munir, the country’s Chief of Army Staff. This development follows the ousting of former Prime Minister Imran Khan, a move that some analysts suggest was tacitly supported by the Biden administration.

Imran Khan, who was removed from office in April 2022 through a parliamentary vote of no confidence, has consistently alleged that his ouster was orchestrated by a U.S.-led conspiracy in collaboration with Pakistan’s military establishment. Both the U.S. and Pakistani military have repeatedly denied these allegations, describing them as false.

Following Khan’s removal, General Asim Munir assumed the role of army chief in November 2022. His tenure has been marked by significant political and social unrest, including allegations of human rights abuses. Critics have pointed to actions such as the suppression of political dissent, media censorship, and the targeting of opposition figures as evidence of these violations. The military’s influence over Pakistan’s political landscape has been a longstanding issue, with Munir’s leadership bringing renewed scrutiny.

The recent election of Donald Trump as U.S. President has coincided with increased international attention to these human rights concerns. Supporters of Imran Khan have expressed optimism that Trump’s return to the White House could lead to a shift in U.S. policy towards Pakistan, potentially resulting in greater pressure on the Pakistani military regarding human rights issues. Former Pakistani federal minister Fawad Chaudhry publicly urged President-elect Trump to investigate the circumstances surrounding Khan’s removal, alleging involvement by the Biden administration.

In October 2024, over 60 Democratic lawmakers from the U.S. House of Representatives called on President Joe Biden to use Washington’s influence with Pakistan to secure the release of jailed former Prime Minister Imran Khan. This marked the first collective call from members of Congress for Khan’s release, highlighting concerns about human rights abuses and election irregularities in Pakistan.

The United Nations’ recent statements reflect a growing international consensus on the need to address human rights violations in Pakistan. Observers note that the global community is increasingly unwilling to overlook such issues, regardless of geopolitical alliances. The evolving political dynamics, both within Pakistan and internationally, suggest that the country’s leadership may face mounting pressure to uphold human rights and democratic principles.

As Pakistan navigates this complex landscape, the interplay between domestic politics and international relations will be crucial in determining the nation’s trajectory. The role of the military, the judiciary, and civil society, along with the influence of foreign powers, will all contribute to shaping Pakistan’s future in the context of human rights and governance.

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Here are the sources referenced:


1. Al Jazeera - Analysis on the alleged U.S.-led conspiracy and Khan’s claims against the military establishment.


• Source: Al Jazeera

2. The Pak Military Monitor - Details on General Asim Munir’s leadership and its impact on human rights in Pakistan.

• Source: The Pak Military Monitor

3. The Print - Fawad Chaudhry’s call for Trump to investigate Imran Khan’s ouster and accusations against the Biden administration.

• Source: The Print


4. Reuters - Report on Democratic lawmakers in the U.S. calling for Imran Khan’s release.

• Source: Reuters

These sources provide detailed information about the political dynamics and international response to the situation involving General Asim Munir and human rights issues in Pakistan. I hope this time you will not ask for source and make it reason to delete

 

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