PTI Murad Saeed in Afghanistan, was 'controlling KP govt' from there: Rana Sanaullah

[313Ghazi]

This shows why PTI relucent to start operations against TTP since their eye candy blue eyed bacha with the Afghans. further if armed forces start operations Ex- Chief minister had fear to loose his drug business.

Please explain why Ehsanullah Ehsan escaped military prison?

Did PTI release him?

 

[ziaulislam]

I am sure KPK and Balochistan will find immense peace, security and prosperity as part of Emirate of Aghanistan.

I am surprised the parallels we have to bengal. We use to say the same

 

[prothought]

Why not wipe out his hide out with air power? Jus send that Talibani terrorist to hell fire with his buddy.

 

[Blain2]

I am surprised the parallels we have to bengal. We use to say the same

We can and should say the same.

If politics and party agenda mean more to people than the unity of the country then what can one say. I am certainly sorry that some people feel this way.

There isn't a single person who would have supported MQM had they said "because the state is carrying out Operation Clean-up against us, we will join hands with India."

Let's apply uniform principles when thinking about Pakistan. I firmly believe that the state should not push any ethnicity to the brink, but if the mass murder is being committed by Afghan citizens and their supporters abetted by the Taliban in Kabul/Kandahar, why the hesitation to go after these actors in a united manner with one voice?

I will grant our politics are dismal and there is very little maturity shown by either side (this includes the Establishment too), however, we have tashkeels and suicide bombers entering from Afghanistan and people have confusion about whether or not we should go after them.

Let's have clarity of thought on this fitna. Just because the Taliban go easy on PTI, that does not mean they should be given a free pass by the party supporters. As I have maintained, I can guarantee that if things continued, Taliban would have certainly turned their guns against PTI as well just like they did against the ANP (an avowedly secular, but pro Pakhtun rights party).

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Murad Saeed being under protection TTP in Afghanistan and controlling KP govt isn't shocking news. The only thing we need to decide is how to kill this traitor and all others associated with him.

Are you Faisal varda’s brother?
Don’t try to spread fake news and lies.
This forum is losing its credibility by allowing Establishment puppets to hijack this forum to spread lies and baseless propaganda.

 

[Oscar]

Please explain why Ehsanullah Ehsan escaped military prison?

Did PTI release him?

Regardless of the whataboutism here - at that point Mohsin Dawar had said he had wanted about Taliban regrouping and this was the result of it.

But at the end his escape had a lot more to do with his support from his handlers who in turn compromised people within the prison.

The whataboutism - the incompetence of counter intelligence operations in identifying compromised individuals in the prison is still irrelevant to the fact that PTI has , does and will for the future have active TTP supporting elements within them regardless of the damage they cause to Pakistan.


It helps securing its candidates and rallies from any trouble with TTP within the areas where the state writ has failed.
It helps provides secure passage for whenever it needs to bring in numbers from KP for its long marches.

It provides it a hedge for a last ditch plan where even if the PTI officially dissolves or mutates there will be a plan to create a secessionist movement within it with Imran Khan as the next Bacha Khan.

Whether Murad Saeed is being controlled from Afghanistan in pure conjecture - but that doesnt mean he may or may not have as plenty of now PTI party candidates do have links within Afghanistan and a token few actively cooperate with both TTP and TTA elements in Afghanistan on both funding and other illicit activites.

That does not absolve the establishment of its wrong doings - it does not take away their support of militant training and proxies nor that they still do not engage in it even today to try and create their so called perfect balance which they continue to fail miserably at. Those facts will remain.

But it does not make the PTI a positive factor in Pakistan anymore, it does not make it faultless, and it does not makes it supporters any less blind followers with little reason, civility or family values in discourse when presented any alternative to their exact script.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

We can and should say the same.

If politics and party agenda mean more to people than the unity of the country then what can one say. I am certainly sorry that some people feel this way.

There isn't a single person who would have supported MQM had they said "because the state is carrying out Operation Clean-up against us, we will join hands with India."

Let's apply uniform principles when thinking about Pakistan. I firmly believe that the state should not push any ethnicity to the brink, but if the mass murder is being committed by Afghan citizens and their supporters abetted by the Taliban in Kabul/Kandahar, why the hesitation to go after these actors in a united manner with one voice?

I will grant our politics are dismal and there is very little maturity shown by either side (this includes the Establishment too), however, we have tashkeels and suicide bombers entering from Afghanistan and people have confusion about whether or not we should go after them.

Let's have clarity of thought on this fitna. Just because the Taliban go easy on PTI, that does not mean they should be given a free pass by the party supporters. As I have maintained, I can guarantee that if things continued, Taliban would have certainly turned their guns against PTI as well just like they did against the ANP (an avowedly secular, but pro Pakhtun rights party).

Ask yourself, what should Pakistan's security agencies be focused on? Should their primary mission be combating terrorism, dismantling militant networks, and ensuring the safety of citizens, or should national resources be consumed by political surveillance and efforts directed against political opponents?

Pakistan continues to face serious security challenges, from terrorism to economic instability. At a time when the country needs strong institutions working together, many people feel that too much energy is being spent on political engineering and too little on addressing the threats that directly affect ordinary Pakistanis.

The establishment is often perceived as having influence over almost every major decision in the country. If that perception is incorrect, then institutions should demonstrate transparency and accountability. If it is correct, then responsibility for the country's successes and failures cannot simply be shifted onto elected governments.
You cannot exercise influence over every important matter and then distance yourself from the consequences when things go wrong.
What is even more troubling is the assumption that the public cannot see what is happening.
Pakistanis are more informed than ever. The international community, journalists, analysts, and ordinary citizens all observe developments and form their own conclusions.
Treating people as if they are unable to distinguish reality from political narratives only further undermines public trust.

Perhaps the most striking example is healthcare. Pakistan is a nuclear-armed nation of more than 250 million people, yet when people discuss world-class cancer care within the country, one name consistently stands out, Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital. For countless families, it is more than a hospital; it is a symbol of hope. Thousands of patients, many of whom could never afford expensive treatment, have relied on it during the most difficult moments of their lives.
If the government or the establishment believes that fear of one political figure justifies targeting every institution associated with him, then consider the consequences. Imagine if Shaukat Khanum were forced to close. The issue would no longer be politics. It would become a humanitarian crisis affecting cancer patients, families, doctors, nurses, and communities across Pakistan.In the end, institutions earn respect not through power, censorship, or political control, but through service, competence, and public trust.

The real measure of leadership is not how effectively it silences opponents, but how effectively it improves the lives of ordinary citizens.

 

[ziaulislam]

Sachi muchi ? khao kasam that they will leave for Afghanistan

Bengalis left for Indian Bengal???

 

[ziaulislam]

Regardless of the whataboutism here - at that point Mohsin Dawar had said he had wanted about Taliban regrouping and this was the result of it.

But at the end his escape had a lot more to do with his support from his handlers who in turn compromised people within the prison.

The whataboutism - the incompetence of counter intelligence operations in identifying compromised individuals in the prison is still irrelevant to the fact that PTI has , does and will for the future have active TTP supporting elements within them regardless of the damage they cause to Pakistan.


It helps securing its candidates and rallies from any trouble with TTP within the areas where the state writ has failed.
It helps provides secure passage for whenever it needs to bring in numbers from KP for its long marches.

It provides it a hedge for a last ditch plan where even if the PTI officially dissolves or mutates there will be a plan to create a secessionist movement within it with Imran Khan as the next Bacha Khan.

Whether Murad Saeed is being controlled from Afghanistan in pure conjecture - but that doesnt mean he may or may not have as plenty of now PTI party candidates do have links within Afghanistan and a token few actively cooperate with both TTP and TTA elements in Afghanistan on both funding and other illicit activites.

That does not absolve the establishment of its wrong doings - it does not take away their support of militant training and proxies nor that they still do not engage in it even today to try and create their so called perfect balance which they continue to fail miserably at. Those facts will remain.

But it does not make the PTI a positive factor in Pakistan anymore, it does not make it faultless, and it does not makes it supporters any less blind followers with little reason, civility or family values in discourse when presented any alternative to their exact script.

We all know what the problem is no matter how we want to spin it

Pakistan is an enterprise for the military to make money...
Be it minerals/chromium of kpk, smuggling of oil through Balochistan ir drugs through karachi, hence all these three avenues will be unstable and controlled via installed puppet govt

In Balochistan few people woke and didn't know they were supposed to be elected

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This is your ex pm by the way and he is not a yo-uth-ia

 

[ziaulislam]

Please explain why Ehsanullah Ehsan escaped military prison?

Did PTI release him?

He was released because he ahd took much confidential information..

 

[Starlord]

Bengalis left for Indian Bengal???

No they stayed and kill innocent Bihari's in thousands, but got a independent country, what will KPK do? merge with Afghanistan? lol... or independent Pushtoonistan? with who? The collective IQ of entire KPK is -10, the whole region has only innovated new ways to make khud kuss bombaar and IED's while the world is making flying cars, you really think that KPK or Baluchistan or its people are intellectually capable of ruling/running a country ? if so then bhai I just want to have the same shit what you are smoking.

 

[HAIDER]

And due to Ahsan ullah ahsan terrorism eradicated in FATA/KPK and he living luxurious life in Turkey..............lol...if you are not agree with Generals you are traitor !!!!!!!

But who else will be discovered in Afghanistan beside Murad Saeed. Same old playbook ...

minerals , minerals, minerals ....

 

[Meengla]

If Murad Saeed is indeed in Afghanistan under the Taliban protection--and that's the only way for him to be able to live in Afghanistan--then really bad for PTI's image. Pakistanis in general are so done with Afghanistan and the Taliban.
Why wouldn't Murad fly to London or some other place? I think international flights still go to/from Afghanistan. In Afghanistan, Pakistan's moles will catch up with Murad and then he will sing a different tune in public media of Pakistan. But then I am perhaps still underestimating the lows of dumbness Imran and 'political party' can sink to.

 

[HAIDER]

Pakistan is turned into a lawless serious comedy state.