313Ghazi
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IK has always been arrogant. Its a major flaw.
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Distant_Observer
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Looks like Afridi will be lined up for power.
It will be good for KPK to finally have somone more grounded and rational as a figurehead. He doesn't have IK's God complex.
It will be good for KPK to finally have somone more grounded and rational as a figurehead. He doesn't have IK's God complex.
PakAl
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In Pakistan all leaders are like this, this is why they must take it easy and not go over the line where there is no come back. Today IK is in jail, this doesn't benefit Pakistan or Pakistais, the mullahs do the same aswell as the generals. The biggest mistake by PTI and IK was trying to encourage junior generals to do a coup, this was on PDF, and all over twitter and Facebook. This made some generals angry and they burnt all bridges.
The question to all Pakistanis is how to solve these issues, between PTI and establishment and between Pakistan and TTP, Taliban. Can we fight insurgency for another 25 years, start war with Afghanistan, we all be in our 60s 70s and still talking about the same stuff, it's frustrating. We all want a Pakistan which is safe and secure, is progressing like Turkey Malaysia and Indonesia. Noone talks about the solution but some want war and some want to lie in front of ttp.
This is why the best option is negotiations, talks, working with locals to win their hearts and minds, backed with development, education, jobs and lastly those who fight with weapons must be isolated and finished off.
Distant_Observer
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What about Javed Afridi as leader of KPK? Industrialist leader, business savvy, could get a lot done.
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Imran Khan govt topple by Gen Bajwa and This terrorist escape from military custody ..just sayin .. ........... also later military admit , let this terrorist go through secret deal..
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Pak-Warrior
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Well, one of the bold part was mine where I asked if any genius really believes that Imran khan is controlling KP from his dark tiny cell ?
Are you that genius ?
I mean one has to understand the mindset that is ready to believe that establishment is letting him run a province from his jail. Perhaps you have no idea how Pakistan is operated. Military used brute force to trampled the constitution, will of the nation, to imprison him and his colleagues and workers. they did everything unimaginable, even dragged women, abducted children of their leaders to remove them from the picture and you think they are allowing him to run a province ? Do you really think he can even whisper without ISI listening? Do you really believe there's any law / constitution in Pakistan left as of now ? Do you really think there's even a remote chance of civil rights ? He isn''t even allowed to go to proper court for court hearings and you are saying that he's running the province? WOW!
Secondly, you pretend to be non-political but here we are discussing an alleged "tweet" by Imran khan from his prison! Isn't it heights of hypocrisy!
Anyone who blames IK for terrorism is the biggest dishonest person I have ever faced. (I hope that's not you). I mean we had Terrorism brewing for last 25+ years. Last 45+ years if you include all the jihadification and Madrassa + Jihad culture introduction by General Zia's establishment. So, how on god damn earth, IK's responsible for terrorism! and if he's not then certainly some people were! Who were in power from 1980s till 2018 ??? Why Pakistan devastated by terror in that era. Why is that OBL is found in Pakistan in 2012? Why was Islamabad being rocked by bomb blasts in 2000s ?? 80,000+ Pakistanis dead due to terrorism (IK had only 3 yrs that saw relative peace) So, Who's policies led to this ? When you are going to ask real hard questions based on real facts & timeline ? Why don't you guys have guts to point fingers where they should go, instead... "Oh IK did an alleged 'tweet', so let''s accuse him of mishandling of situation in last 4 years too (the time he's in jail). WOW! Ask Gen Zia 2.0 and his puppet Shahbaz these questions not the person who's in jail. He can do nothing from jail. Even supposedly if he would have been out, GHQ always do what they think is right. They don't bother asking bloody civilians for security matters.
I am waiting for you to ask questions from current regime on their consistently failing policy, consistently failures of intelligence. If current regime is failing to contain terrorism. Its ONLY THIER RESPONSIBILITY. IK's tweet cannot take responsibility of ALL the failures of the state!
I wasn't bothering about ALL the political Bullshit happening in this forum myself but I can't take this LEVEL of BS where a "tweet" becomes a hot debate of 10+ pages. Why you guys can't be honest with your lives for once and ASK real QUESTIONS from People in charge of the country. You have thrown a national leader (who had overwhelming mandate) to jail on absolutely bogus and fake cases. Wasn't it enough for your ongoing injustices that you want to blame him for your in-competencies when he is in jail and you guys are in charge of the country for last 80 years (minus 3 years of him). Just forget him now and focus on current regime that has ALL the power in the country!. Just forget his alleged tweets, those tweets are not making country's security policy. GHQ is making those since 47. Plus why should we ever believe a word, unless is allowed to speak directly. I won't ever believe a word as long as he is in military custody.
Assume for a moment there was no Imran khan, no PTI, no cricket captain, no shaukat khanum cancer hosp, no university stuff, no nothing. He just removed from the timeline to ever have existed. Would that have stopped Establishment for Jihadification of society in 80's ? Or policies in early 2000s? OR the onset of terrorism ? Answer is no! We would have suffered exactly as we suffered because all policies are made in GHQ.
Pak-Warrior
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You look like you are not even in 2005 but in 1985. The time when Nawaz sharif was produced in the laps of dictator General Zia.
"Fauj is our protector" LOL! Not just protector kiddo, they have the whole country for themselves. Ofcourse they are protector. What else is their job? Why the poor nation pays everything they have to military otherwise? What is other reason to have a body guard who don't protect you ? Nation is always an employer. and fauj is always an employee. Ironically you had to be the boss but Your worth is less than a used tissue paper. You will learn a lot as you grow up. Try reading history books. Even Pakistani literature can enlighten you about lot of stuff.
RescueRanger
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Pak-Warrior
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IK is the
of the taliban and it cost us 70k Pakistani lives.
Well this idiot believes IK cost us 70K lives!!
That's why I say, Noon (boot)-league followers have ZERO IQ level and ZERO facts!
According to ISPR, we already had lost 70K lives till 2018. and IK only became PM in 2018 for just 3 years. You had terrorism for 25+ years (minus 3 yrs of IK which saw maximum peace). So you have to thank him and accuse your N (boot) league and establishment for all those causalities of worst security policies. Ateast you can thank him for putting an end to US drone strikes on our territory. US drones killed 100s if not 1000s of our children and trampled our sovereignty. Did collateral damages + given excuses to locals to go against the state which can't even protect their families.
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US official calls on Islamabad to engage with Afghan Taliban
Ikram Junaidi Published September 17, 2025 Updated 26 minutes ago
0TORKHAM: Trucks laden with Afghan refugees’ belongings arrive at the main border crossing between Pakistan and Afghanistan. According to IOM, over 112,000 Afghans returned to their country in the last week of August.—AFP
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Join our Whatsapp channelISLAMABAD: Days after Pakistan asked the Afghan Taliban to choose whether they want to stand with their neighbour, or the outlawed Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) militant group, a key US official has called on Islamabad to seek a political settlement with Kabul.
Zalmay Khalilzad, who was named US special representative to Afghanistan during the previous Trump administration, also called on Afghanistan to “help Pakistan with such negotiations”.
The former diplomat recently undertook a visit to Kabul alongside US hostage envoy Adam Boehler, where he met with key members of the Afghan Taliban regime.
In a tweet posted after he wrapped up his visit, Khalilzad noted that violence between Pakistan’s security forces and the TTP had resulted in the deaths of a significant number of security personnel and citizens.
Saying that he believed pursuing a military solution to this challenge was a mistake, he called on Islamabad to “shift to a political strategy and negotiate”.
“The Pakistani establishment always advised the US and Afghan government before 2021 to negotiate and seek a political settlement with the Afghan Taliban. The time has come for Pakistan to consider doing the same,” he said.
RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Smash them... No talks, no negotiation. Anyone who sets their lot with these savages is in the same boat.
AND now Imran Khan is working as a spokesperson of TTP
So??? How does one terrorist escaping justify Imran Khan shameless behavior now?
I*R*A
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Is it? I mean brotherly waqay e?
Which proves .. only one thing. Pakistanis went over and beyond in helping and accommodating them at the cost of importing foreign alien backward culture and hatred and racism.
Out of context and totally unrelated.
Unless Afghans squatting in Pakistan think the other Afghans in Afghanistan are their mortal enemies and won't let them fulfill their religious obligations.
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Has Pakistan ever killed a sitting PM or President or Khalifa of Afghanistan?
Has Pakistan ever invaded Afghan territory?
Does Pakistan lay claim to their territory?
And to put things in perspective about lectures of show generosity, historically the Afghans starved to death the Muslims who migrated from this region to their country.
I was dumbfounded when I heard some Pakistanis saying Afghans removal from Pakistan will adversely affect Pakistan economically. Not their fault though I just asked them one question, if you think selling carpets, kababs, hashish, Kalashnikov is something that is helping Pakistan economically then yes, however, otherwise I do not think there is one single big Afghan industrialist in Pakistan that has employed thousand of Pakistanis.
Forsvaret
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What’s really shameful is this Fauj putting Imran Khan in prison on trumped up charges, blocking all legal avenues of justice for him through 26th amendment, stealing his party’s mandate in general elections 2024… But of course, none of that is of your concern as Bughaz-e-Imran or Boot Licking is more important to you.
Never supported those cases against Imran Khan. Always condemned those cases against IK
However IK should be ashamed of himself for acting as a spokesperson and political wing of mass murderers of TTP
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