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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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It is quite a leap from a being a successful cricket Captain to a prolific fundraiser for cancer care hospitals to being a PM with caliph dreams on top.
IK's previous efforts and their successes are undeniable, but they are by no means a bar to recognizing all his disastrous failures as PM.
Looking at only one or the other aspect is misleading.

Some of the basic flaws in Imran's supporters is that because he was/is personally not corrupt, he wouldn't surround himself with the corrupt ones--which he indeed did. Also, that he did charity decades ago means he would do the wonders as the leader of a complex nation like Pakistan--and he miserably failed in that role despite the huge advantages given to him.
To this day, there is not even one convincing argument as to why Imran lost power in 2022. Not one except, IMO, Bajwa decided for whatever reasons to not support Imran anymore and so those coerced allies of Imran decided to dump Imran--ask the MQM leaders about that! Otherwise, Imran never challenged America until his last few weeks and that was part of a calculated strategy just as he was losing power. He never challenged 'the Establishment' until he was already ousted by the Vote of No Confidence--on the contrary, he was trying to work with Bajwa and Faiz, to each others' mutual benefit. Everything related to Imran's downfall points toward hubris, arrogance, and multiple stupid decisions which continue unabated.
But such a pity that such an intellectual dwarf has convinced so many highly educated people who simply refuse to dig up the events between Oct. 2021 and April 2022 to see what really happened. But then none are more blind then those who refuse to see.
 
Some of the basic flaws in Imran's supporters is that because he was/is personally not corrupt, he wouldn't surround himself with the corrupt ones--which he indeed did. Also, that he did charity decades ago means he would do the wonders as the leader of a complex nation like Pakistan--and he miserably failed in that role despite the huge advantages given to him.
To this day, there is not even one convincing argument as to why Imran lost power in 2022. Not one except, IMO, Bajwa decided for whatever reasons to not support Imran anymore and so those coerced allies of Imran decided to dump Imran--ask the MQM leaders about that! Otherwise, Imran never challenged America until his last few weeks and that was part of a calculated strategy just as he was losing power. He never challenged 'the Establishment' until he was already ousted by the Vote of No Confidence--on the contrary, he was trying to work with Bajwa and Faiz, to each others' mutual benefit. Everything related to Imran's downfall points toward hubris, arrogance, and multiple stupid decisions which continue unabated.
But such a pity that such an intellectual dwarf has convinced so many highly educated people who simply refuse to dig up the events between Oct. 2021 and April 2022 to see what really happened. But then none are more blind then those who refuse to see.
Each & everyday is the same ranting from you; Imran Khan bad. His supporters bad. His politics bad. Bla bla bla. And the funniest part is that you don’t even get tired of it yourself! 🤭
 
Air marshal Asghar khan’s son openly defying the army ..this is big …no one can say this guy is a ghaddar ..he comes from a family of Asghar khan, and a line of patriotic PAf officers:
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Some of the basic flaws in Imran's supporters is that because he was/is personally not corrupt, he wouldn't surround himself with the corrupt ones--which he indeed did. Also, that he did charity decades ago means he would do the wonders as the leader of a complex nation like Pakistan--and he miserably failed in that role despite the huge advantages given to him.
To this day, there is not even one convincing argument as to why Imran lost power in 2022. Not one except, IMO, Bajwa decided for whatever reasons to not support Imran anymore and so those coerced allies of Imran decided to dump Imran--ask the MQM leaders about that! Otherwise, Imran never challenged America until his last few weeks and that was part of a calculated strategy just as he was losing power. He never challenged 'the Establishment' until he was already ousted by the Vote of No Confidence--on the contrary, he was trying to work with Bajwa and Faiz, to each others' mutual benefit. Everything related to Imran's downfall points toward hubris, arrogance, and multiple stupid decisions which continue unabated.
But such a pity that such an intellectual dwarf has convinced so many highly educated people who simply refuse to dig up the events between Oct. 2021 and April 2022 to see what really happened. But then none are more blind then those who refuse to see.
I think his UN speech raised a lot of eyebrows with the religious symbolism and also he made a comment openly stating that he wishes for a day when Muslim lands will be free of dictators and kings ..this pretty much did him in with the saudies and the Emiratis to a point t where MBS too away his jet so IK had to take his own plane back. Then he made that stupid comment on Taliban that pretty much did I him in with the Americans to a point where even my wife who is an American started hating him..he shot himself in his own foot by not being a careful diplomat and getting carried away with populism …I think he had meant and hope he won’t make these mistakes again
 
Some of the basic flaws in Imran's supporters is that because he was/is personally not corrupt, he wouldn't surround himself with the corrupt ones--which he indeed did.

Let us keep in mind that all those who provided him free unlimited use of helicopters and private aircraft during the heady days of his ascent were not doing it just out of goodness of their hearts. IK personally benefited from such largesse.
 
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he shot himself in his own foot by not being a careful diplomat and getting carried away with populism …I think he had meant and hope he won’t make these mistakes again

If you think he has really reformed then you are probably mistaken: In just last few days alone, he has called some of his loyal party members 'traitors' and in his newly formed core committee, he has sidelined many of his loyal old guards.
Let's face it: The guy is too stupid to lead a political party, let alone a complex country like Pakistan.
 
If you think he has really reformed then you are probably mistaken: In just last few days alone, he has called some of his loyal party members 'traitors' and in his newly formed core committee, he has sidelined many of his loyal old guards.
Let's face it: The guy is too stupid to lead a political party, let alone a complex country like Pakistan.
That is your opinion but the guy is not stupid ..yes he is not a career politician not a diplomat but he is a straight shooter and a man of principles. He is what Pakistan needs
 
Let's face it: The guy is too stupid to lead a political party, let alone a complex country like Pakistan.
Another day, another non-stop ranting against IK:
Each & everyday is the same ranting from you; Imran Khan bad. His supporters bad. His politics bad. Bla bla bla. And the funniest part is that you don’t even get tired of it yourself! 🤭
 
he is a straight shooter and a man of principles. He is what Pakistan needs

Are you sure that is what the Pakistani people actually want? They may say it, but the actions prove otherwise.
 
They may say it, but the actions prove otherwise.
Their actions speak for themselves. The people of Pakistan voted in droves for PTI / IK back in general elections 2024. The same election which got stolen by military establishment as usual. 🙄
 
Are you sure that is what the Pakistani people actually want? They may say it, but the actions prove otherwise.

Really, so laughable to call Imran a 'straight shooter' given his working behind the scene with the military to topple Nawaz in 2014, given his surrounding himself with turncoats and very rich 'corrupt' politicians, given his working with the likes of General Faiz Hameed to do his 'politics', given his first accusing America for his ouster then backpaddling because he now needs America.
But then the expats in the West are a special breed of ignorance and delusions. They still can't see how Imran is digging his own political grave on daily basis. And yet Imran is a straight shooter, not a career politician, and is not stupid?!
 
They still can't see how Imran is digging his own political grave on daily basis.
Yeah, we’re all kinda stubborn. And what’re you gonna do about it except whining & crying everyday? 🤭
 
Really, so laughable to call Imran a 'straight shooter' given his working behind the scene with the military to topple Nawaz in 2014, given his surrounding himself with turncoats and very rich 'corrupt' politicians, given his working with the likes of General Faiz Hameed to do his 'politics', given his first accusing America for his ouster then backpaddling because he now needs America.
But then the expats in the West are a special breed of ignorance and delusions. They still can't see how Imran is digging his own political grave on daily basis. And yet Imran is a straight shooter, not a career politician, and is not stupid?!

Just enjoy the entertainment that is being provided here. :D

I will say again: IK is the same as all the others, not special. Well, with special needs may be, but nothing extraordinary, that is for sure.
 
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