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[VCheng]

Have you seen the results of the paternity test yourself?

A family court order from LA county is good enough for me. That is how she came to live with her two half-brothers.

Some will prefer not to believe it unless they had witnessed IK's act of penetration themselves, but that is up all four of them.

Not my problem.

 

[PakAl]

Entertaining dreams and hopes is nothing without actual results.

Pakistan is the same as it ever was, IK or no IK. Ergo, Pakistanis are content with the state of affairs in Pakistan, regardless of what they claim. Otherwise, change would actually happen.

Where is it?

I get your point 100%. I cannot speak for rest of Pakistan but know very well AJK politics, how nearly everybody when loaded changes their personality in to a mafia. Its a typical desi wannabe mentality. In the western world it's similar aswell, as the people go up the ladder they become corrupt and follow the state narrative, it's the way to keep going up the ladder or else you'll come back down. If 80% of Pakistanis wanted genuine change then noone can stop them, and i mean change for the better, to follow rule and regulations, to become a discipline nation and become the tiger of Asia.

 

[PakAl]

The establishment hijacked his popularity and installed a few pawns like Jahangir Tareen and Aleem Khan who were later used to topple his government. Nobody calls him a 'messiah' except those trying to mock him. You need to understand that Imran Khan is a human being and like all of us he’s prone to making mistakes. Nobody is perfect.

You might not like IK but you have to respect the voter base that showed up and voted for him despite the hurdles thrown by the Election Commission, Faiz Isa, and the Establishment.
Your anger should be directed at the power usurpers who violate their own oath and damage institutions and the country in the long run. Asim Munir and co will retire and leave but who will clean up the mess they’ve made in Kashmir and KPK with their reckless games? I won’t even get into Balochistan as that tragedy is decades old.

Don’t hate politicians, they can be voted out if they fail. But the GHQ snakes? If you don’t wake up they’ll repeat 1971.

PTI followers knew very well about Jahangir Tahreen, Aleem Khan and the rest, this message reached Imran Khan and he said don't worry about them, you vote for your PTI, Imran Khan and Pakistan. Imran Khan allowed the electables in the party to get in power, this is the fact. In AJK majority were ex PPP, Pmln guys and once their wealth was threatened they changed sides. Everyone knew this would happen including IK. Like I said without electables he wouldn't have got in power. I think to blame everything on the establishment is also unfair. After IK removal Bajwa tried to call him but IK refused to talk to anyone, he declared war on them, the media propaganda, anchor attacks and the rest, slowly the tables turned and now establishment refuses to talk.

If a person wants to be fair he must highlight both sides views and then reach an conclusion. Its unfortunate what happened and it was Pakistanis who lost out.

 

[VCheng]

If 80% of Pakistanis wanted genuine change then noone can stop them, and i mean change for the better, to follow rule and regulations, to become a discipline nation and become the tiger of Asia.

If and only if.

But we are too busy blaming others and fighting among ourselves to do anything like that.

 

[Forsvaret]

Truth be told, he did make a great driver for a visiting dignitary, once.

Truth be told, even Putin drives around foreign dignitaries when they come to visit Russia. So much Bughaz for one man that somehow, even driving a foreign dignitary while being a PM is to be "criticized".

A man so blinded by the love of power that he denies his own flesh and blood is no man at all.

A man so blinded by the love of power that he chooses to stay in prison—rather then coming out after striking a deal with military establishment—which put him there in the first place.

A family court order from LA county is good enough for me. That is how she came to live with her two half-brothers.

As per LA court order, Tyrian Khan is Imran Khan’s daughter. That’s good enough for me, but apparently not for people who have deep Bughaz for Imran, only because he won’t "own" his daughter publicly as per their hearts’ desire.

 

[PakAl]

If and only if.

But we are too busy blaming others and fighting among ourselves to do anything like that.

Will not happen till atleast a few more generations, and that is if only they're given good education, taught their own history, values, ethnics. Nothing like that happens in Pakistan, we have uneducated jahil people no doubt but the most corrupt and breakers of laws are those who are highly educated. So does education solve this problem? Or is it the right education and mindset of each individual that builds a nation.

 

[VCheng]

only because he won’t "own" her publicly as per their hearts desire

The denial of paternity, despite the court order, is only to meet requirements of being "sadeeq" and "ameen", hence a lie to remain eligible for being elected. Otherwise, his personal life is his matter. His lying to gain power is the problem.

Anyone's heart's desires are immaterial.

 

[VCheng]

Will not happen till at least a few more generations

Seems about right, as an estimate, to me.

 

[Forsvaret]

The denial of paternity, despite the court order…

Where is the "denial" of paternity when Imran Khan never challenged that LA court order in a higher US court?

Yes, he didn’t and won’t "own" Tyrian Khan as his daughter in public. That’s his choice, regardless of the said court order.

 

[Forsvaret]

His lying to gain power is the problem.

Does this unique "problem" apply only to Imran Khan or ALL politicians and leaders of the world that are currently in power?

 

[VCheng]

Where is the "denial" of paternity when Imran Khan never challenged that LA court order in a higher US court?

His denial of paternity was made in Pakistan to circumvent Pakistani law. He meekly accepted the LA Country court order because he could not deny the DNA evidence, which was proof necessary to release the child to the family that she has resided with since then.

 

[VCheng]

Does this unique "problem" apply only to Imran Khan or ALL politicians and leaders of the world that are currently in power?

Please read the title of this thread. Thank you.

In other words, you admit that IK is just as sleazy as just another lying politician. So what is with the pretense the IK is any better?

There you have it.

 

[PakAl]

No Sir. My deduction is that IK is not popular enough to produce tangibly observable results of the people's outrage that is claimed. He may very well have support of a particular demographic, sure, but is he popular enough to motivate the numbers needed to bring about a change?

IK is the most popular politician in Pakistan, but his followers are not violent type and due to brutal crackdown, midnight raids, fake cases and the rest they are not coming out. KPK is different ofcourse because Pakistanis at the end of the day turn all ethnic when things go wrong. Pmln and PPP followers are also same, so many times their leaders were exiled, jailed but not much protest took place.

 

[VCheng]

IK is the most popular politician in Pakistan, but his followers are not violent type and due to brutal crackdown, midnight raids, fake cases and the rest they are not coming out.

Inqilab chahtey ho to dandey tau khaney parein gey.

 

[Forsvaret]

His denial of paternity was made in Pakistan to circumvent Pakistani law.

Yet, the military establishment failed to file a case for that against him in prison? Have they run out of ideas?

In other words, you admit that IK is just as sleazy as just another lying politician. So what is with the pretense the IK is any better?

Just because he won’t "own" his daughter in public, doesn’t make him "another" lying politician. That’s black & white thinking with no room for nuance or shades of grey.